Police Hunt Serial Killer of Middle Eastern Brooklyn Shopkeepers

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  1. Really People?

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    I'd say it's possible that some are racially motivated...

    That's why every aspect of a case has to be investigated, so that all the details can be determined, and, the case can be successfully prosecuted...
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    That seems reasonable, but it puts you at odds with many politicians, police officials, prosecutors, and media executives in a general sense. They will have none of your reasonableness out of PC/political concerns.

    Hell, the Left is playing the race card about Amb. Rice being held accountable for her **** and bull story about Benghazi.
     
  3. Really People?

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    Yeah, but, I'm not really concerned with that...

    It's about logically handling each instance...

    If there's no indication that race played a factor, then, there's no need to pursue that avenue...

    But, if race does play a factor, I don't see where that fact shouldn't be pointed out, in any case...

    If so, I don't see why they would...

    There's nothing racial about that whole scenario...
     
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    Why not? Would you be concerned if mobs of whites were beating blacks and Latinos, and the establishment was ignoring the problem and treating the attacks as simply minor public order crimes and petty assaults?
     
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    No, I was saying I'm not concerned with being at odds with anyone with any of the types you listed...

    I don't think it's being ignored, as most of the perpetrators in the stories I've seen have been arrested...

    Whether they're ignoring any racial issue in the case, I can't say definitively...

    Personally, I'd hope that, if there have been instances of these cases being race related, they would be dealt with accordingly...

    But, since, with the exception of major cases, you don't hear much about perpetrators after they're arrested, we probably wouldn't know anyway...
     
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    White shopkeepers in Brooklyn? He would have a very limited pick of the litter.

    Seriously though, no probably not, and I agree with you that the way we view "racism" in this country is certainly one-sided. Still, just because you disagree with way the label "hate crime" is applied (which by the way, IT HASN'T, in this case) doesn't mean you should be ignorant of of a reasonable motive. This is a classic case of letting ideology trump reason.
     
  7. DonGlock26

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    Who's being ignorant of a motive? I'm pointing out exactly what you have admitted. This example has worked well in illustrating that very point.
     
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    So you are saying it's possible these shopkeepers were targeted because of their race or religious beliefs then?
     
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    Sure, it's possible. That's why the hate crime detectives are being called in. Well that, and showing the Middle Eastern community that they care.

    This thread is comparing that to the lack of a similar response, when whites are attacked by black mobs. Have you been reading the posts in this thread?????
     
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    America isn't the only country with hate crime laws. In fact, we tend to enforce these style of laws less than a lot of Europe, so good luck finding a First World nation without this legislation.

    About the only places without hate crime laws are usually very homogeneous.
     
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    America is the only country I'm interested in.

    They can throw white people in jail for insulting minorities in England but that is their problem.

    Thank God we are not quite that degenerate here - yet.
     
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    Gasp!!! Surely NOT!!!!! :omfg:
     
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    When has something that isn't about the failing economy stopped you from blaming it on Obama?
     
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    Do you want to talk about the OP or move to a lay-offs thread?
     
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    Does that remind you of how your side has blamed everything on Bush since Obama took over?
     
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    They STILL bring up Bush. Meanwhile, Goldwater had to drag Obama into this thread. LOL!!
     
  17. Cloak

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    It's a different circumstance, and no, not because of the ethnic difference. If there was a mob of the same people consistently targeting whites, then yes, maybe the hate crime investigators should be called in (although I think "hate crime" is a redundant term to begin with).

    Otherwise, it's just random violence, which makes it more difficult to determine a motive. This case involves a serial killer targeting a specific group of people over a short time period.
     
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    So, if mobs of blacks were attacking whites across the US for a few years, you would call in the hate crime investigators at the federal level?
     
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    this is the third murder....
     
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    Because the only similarity between the victims was that they were Middle Eastern male book shopkeepers, and that there haven't been any cases on non ME bookshop keepers murdered?
     
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    Any signs of robbery?
     
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    stop being logical, it might confuse them
     
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    So, if one race is targeted, it may be a hate crime? How about a racial slur during a robbery or murder? Good enough for a hate crime?
     
  24. GeddonM3

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    no no no, only if the race in question is african, arab,hispanic or asian. the only time whites are considered targets for hate crime is if they are part of the LBGT crowd.

    very strict limits for HCL, you must be one of the required groups above.
     
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    You have an obsession with race.

    Blaming Bush for everything is as bad as blaming Obama for everything. Blame them both for what they deserve, and for both of them, they both get blamed for far more than they deserve
     

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