Poll: Trump Has Higher Job Approval Rating Among U.S. Veterans .....

Of course he does. Soldiers are brainwashed to respond to authoritarianism. That's what boot camp is for.

 

To paraphrase good old Don Rumsfeld:

What I would want, and what I have gotten, are two widely separate things.

I served under Clinton and GHW Bush. In my opinion Clinton was a much better CIC, and prosecuted one of the most successful military operations in US history.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/europe/1999-11-01/natos-success-kosovo

GHW Bush, otoh, completely blew the first Gulf War by failing to oust Saddam Hussein, and by abandoning the Northern Kurds after assurances that they would be protected.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/abandoning-the-kurds-1407196106

Those of us in-theater, who knew how much the Kurds had helped us, were appalled that the decision was made to abandon them to their fate. It was a cowardly decision, and one that would have repercussions a decade later.

GW's misguided invasion of Iraq in 2003 sealed the deal for me. Although I wasn't there, I had plenty of friends who were. That entire retched fiasco was nothing but a money maker for Big Defense, mainly Halliburton, who's former CEO now sat a heartbeat away from the oval. The whole damn think stunk to high heaven.

So, in answer to your question, what I would want from a CIC is for them to be cautious and judicious with their authority. I voted for Obama the first time. I voted for Obama the second time because Romney gave every indication that he was ready to invade Iran as soon as he was in office.

I don't dislike Trump because he avoided the draft while others served and died in his place. I dislike him because I know that he has no effing clue what an enlisted soldier goes through, and I fear that he looks to the military as his attack dog, and will sic it upon anyone who dares to challenge him, resulting in another bloody, elongated catastrophe.

 

Said like a true coward who has no ****ing clue what he's talking about. I mean seriously what you just said is grade A stupid but it's not like you know any better. You don't have a damn clue pathetic liberal sheep.

 

Oh look a sad "Iraq was a blood for oil war" conspiracy person. Don't see those everyday.

 

Funny, wasn't that what the republicans did from day one, when Obama took office?? They didn't even pretended otherwise. One of their leaders even went on TV declaring as much. Were you whining then??

 

It's not, but it sure was based on a bunch of lies. Daddy Bush knew better.

 

The republicans sure did play obstructionists. Perhaps you need to clear the BS that is blocking your view.

 

A conservative insulting members of the military. Who would have thought.

 

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Not once did I mention oil.

 

Interesting and thanks for the detailed answers. As I am 25, and not really physically fit to serve, I put my comments under the disclaimer that I'm probably not the best well-suited, but I have read a lot(including the articles you link.) As a humanitarian first and foremost, I believe that as long as the Kurds don't have a State, the Kurdish will continue to be in no-mans land and that particular theater will continue to erupt. Turkey's concerns be damned, Turkey has to learn to live with the Kurds. If push comes to shove and it's a war between Turkey and the Kurds, I would align towards the Kurds. As Turkey has moved towards an anti-humanist form of government and an autocratic government like many in the ME.


And I agree principally with the concept of being cautious and judicious with regards to the military. As much as I disagree with the diplomatic conduct of Woodrow Wilson, I do very much admire that Woodrow Wilson wanted to do "everything short of war" and constantly looked for a way out. I think that should be a CIC's responsibility, especially with the amazing power the US possesses. Our diplomatic front should be first and foremost, the military in the rear.


I hold that the G-7 Nations should be leaders of their sphere of influences. And that a prosperous Africa, Latin America, Asia, etc is the key to world peace. It's when the leading nations try to interject influence into a non-invited sphere that tragedy happens. Of course, I acknowledge that in my world, the military is greatly reduced given the social-political human agreements but isn't that what we all want?

 

Why is the left slamming this? What's wrong with our veterans approving of our president? I hope they approved of president Obama too. I prefer it when our military, both active and retired, approve of the president. If soldiers need to go off and fight then America will be better off if the soldiers have faith and confidence in the president who sent them into combat.

 

Well....if it weren't for a flame bait, troll post from the OP, nobody would have commented otherwise. Noted by the below:

"Well look at that. Looks like the Leftness just can't turn those Veterans against Trump. Nor can the Deep state. Not so much resistance going on in the Military against Trump. The leftness might want to remember that going forward. What say ye?"

Is the OP insinuating that only conservatives are serving in the Armed Forces?? If not, then why did the OP added this little piece of intellectually dishonest snipet?? What happened to the 40+ percent that disapprove? are they all "leftists?"

 

It does show he has support from those in the Military, and they aren't bailing on him.

 

Hows it feel to be in that minority?

 

Well, I was going by your link and what it was showing.

 

Which shows 1.3 million

 

How does you admitting that you prefer to deal with fake men. Change anything I stated?

 

Well I think its a bit worse for the leftness than just being cannon fodder. A lot worse.

 

I guess what I'm trying to say is you defining what a man is is silly absurd ridiculous

 

You're not really saying anything is there a point

 

Probably a good idea to do your research before you post my having to keep educating you is getting old

 

Then some.....make it thru summer camp and move on up to Rangers, and Special Forces. Wherein they Lead the way.

Oh and boot camp is what the Marines go thru. Army goes first to Basic Training then AIT. Where most civilians can't even handle that.

 

No they didn't ......can you provide a link wherein the Republicans obstructed all of BO peeps cabinet. How long should I wait.

Or have you figured out how many Repubs that the peep had in his cabinet.

Also can you show where they came out and called themselves the resistance, Blocked highways and Marched on Washington.

 

A member of the leftness that is afraid of the truth? Now why isn't that surprising.

 

Not your first link when they showed the numbers for active duty.


Ierardi did not immediately have an estimate on how many troops were on food stamps but said he had personally dealt with the problem of families struggling to meet their dietary needs in a previous post as a division commander. He said the military would seek to mitigate the impact on families if the proposed cuts to the food stamp program were approved by Congress.

Amy Bushatz of Military.com last year cited a report by the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office which said that the Department of Defense lacked the data or coordination with other federal agencies to keep an accurate track on how many troops were receiving food stamps.

The report found that about 23,000 active duty service members received food stamps in 2013, according to U.S. Census data. In addition, information from the Department of Defense Education Activity showed that in September 2015, 24 percent of 23,000 children in U.S. DoDEA schools were eligible for free meals, while 21 percent were eligible for reduced-price meals.

"While it is known that service members use food assistance programs and that information on recipients can be obtained, specific data on service members' use of these programs are not available because there is no requirement or need that has been established for agencies" to collect the information, the GAO report said.......snip~

http://www.military.com/daily-news/...d-stamp-cuts-would-hit-military-families.html