President Obama Accuses GOP of Helping ISIS by ‘Attacking’ Refugees

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    by Kemberlee Kaye
    November 23, 2015

    The facts tell a different story

    [video=youtube;Dul8HZooJhU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dul8HZooJhU[/video]​

    I suppose this is one way to look at things, but it’s certainly not the slightest bit accurate.

    Sunday, President Obama accused Republicans of helping ISIS (though he always uses ‘ISIL’) by attacking Syrian refugees. Unsurprisingly, not one Republican has attacked any Syrian refugee. What Republicans have done is vocalize the same concerns articulated by U.S. intelligence agencies(http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/poll-majority-of-americans-oppose-syrian-refugee-influx/) on the refugee vetting process. Namely, that because our intelligence ground game in Syria has been so week, we have no data with which to vet an influx of refugee status seekers properly, at least not for the time being.

    However, that little factoid didn’t stop President Obama from continuing his verbal assault on Republicans and a bevy of Democrats who’ve vowed to halt the president’s refugee plan.

    Politico reported:
    (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/obama-isil-terrorism-fear-216130)

    ISIL’s still not the varsity team, President Barack Obama said Sunday, but if Republicans running for president and in Congress continue to respond to attacks by playing off fears, they’re doing the terrorists’ work for them.

    A Republican reaction that’s tried to block refugees from entering the country — and members of the media whom he blamed for lacking perspective in coverage over the past week — give in to fear as the terrorists want, help them recruit and let a group of people who’d have no hope of actually defeating American forces on the battlefield win anyway.

    Upending American policy and talking about Christian-Muslim tests for entry that he said accept ISIL’s terms of a religious war will increase the threat of more attacks.

    “Prejudice and discrimination helps ISIL and undermines our national security,” Obama said.


    Mind you, speaking from Turkey following the Paris attacks for which ISIS has claimed credit, President Obama admitted he has no interest in, “pursuing some notion of American leadership or America winning.” But we’re supposed to believe it’s the Republicans undermining the freedom-fighting efforts.

    As we noted last week(http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/11/poll-majority-of-americans-oppose-syrian-refugee-influx/), the President’s latest demagoguery is nothing more than another red herring to distract from his failures to combat ISIS and other radical Muslims players. Had this administration any semblance of a strategy to defeat ISIS or even the will or desire to win, tens of thousands would not be fleeing their homeland.

    Beyond the Obama administration’s foreign policy ineptitudes lies the fact that the refugee stampede also reflects ISIS’ failure to establish a true Caliphate. If ISIS or Daesh is perceived a failure because Syrians are fleeing en masse, how are Republicans “helping the terrorists,” as President Obama claims? (Spoiler: Republicans aren’t.)


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    Read more:
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    Have real facts ever deterred Obama from politicizing even the most tragic of circumstances? It’s foolish to assume he’d behave any differently regarding the Syrian refugee crisis. It's just another red herring to distract from his failures to combat ISIS and other radical Muslims players.” This is the beginning of Obama’s laying the groundwork for his claim that the Republicans are responsible for the upcoming terrorists attacks in the US, when those attacks happen.
    There is no doubt in the majority of Americans that Obama is an enemy of the United States. His words and actions have proved that time and time again. IMO, all one has to do is see the failed state of our Economy, National Security, Foreign policies that Obama has done to America in order to see the truth. Notwithstanding Obama's evisceration of our military. Obama lied to America he never intended to honor his oath of office.
     
  2. Alucard

    Alucard New Member Past Donor

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    The President knows no attacks are going to happen. He knows that he would be blamed if an attack took place while he is in Office. The President knows so many things that the American public cannot know.
     
  3. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's hope that the ISIS Terrorists got the memo about Obama's decision that no attacks will take place on American soil.
     
  4. Veryclever

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    So you're saying that because Obama doesn't want to be blamed for an attack on american soil that, that is the only reason for why there won't be?
     
  5. Zorro

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    He is pathetic.
     
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    Put yourself in the shoes of these refugees. Seriously take at least a minute and think of how desperate you'd be to get out of the country you once called home, in order to get far way from a barbaric religious state that has perverted the belief systems of your very own religion.
    You're a law abiding member of society and you look at the best possible way to leave your country for another country with the best economical prospects. But those countries won't take you, even after you wade in bureaucratic hell for two whole years. You find out that you're application to be refugee had been rejected because of your religion (Ted Cruz, a member of the Grand Old Party has spoken about implementing religious tests of this nature). What would you do? Honestly tell me, how would you act in order to better yourself?
     
  7. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't even need to check if this has been taken wildly out of context, I will bet my left nut on it.
     
  8. bwk

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    Spoiler alert! Not wanting to help refugees is attacking them.
    We have a process of which we have used in the past to vet refugees. What is wrong with it now?








    Speaking of strategy for ISIS, what is the Republican strategy? The president said he'd like to know. Oh that's right, they wouldn't know about that. They claimed victory in 03 when it was just getting started. No wonder the Right has no strategy.

    Twisting the message again I see. You never miss an opportunity as usual. Obama is criticizing the Right for wanting to stamp out the stampede, not that they are actually doing it.

    As for Republicans helping the terrorists, Obama couldn't be more spot on. Starting wars by telling lies, is a great way to help the terrorists start wars of terror. That was Bin Laden's dream. And Bush along with all his oil ventures, took the bait.


    (Excerpt)

    Read more:
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/1...es-gop-of-helping-isis-by-attacking-refugees/

    Have real facts ever deterred Obama from politicizing even the most tragic of circumstances? It’s foolish to assume he’d behave any differently regarding the Syrian refugee crisis. It's just another red herring to distract from his failures to combat ISIS and other radical Muslims players.” This is the beginning of Obama’s laying the groundwork for his claim that the Republicans are responsible for the upcoming terrorists attacks in the US, when those attacks happen.
    There is no doubt in the majority of Americans that Obama is an enemy of the United States. His words and actions have proved that time and time again. IMO, all one has to do is see the failed state of our Economy, National Security, Foreign policies that Obama has done to America in order to see the truth. Notwithstanding Obama's evisceration of our military. Obama lied to America he never intended to honor his oath of office.
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  9. Foolardi

    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But we already HAD an " Alluah Akbar " Terrorist attack on U.S.Soil
    and Obama Commandered it down to - Workplace Violence -.
    That being Ft.Hood and 14 Dead Americans.That makes it precedent that
    Obama is in some fashion conspiring to mislead the Citizenry.
    Like the way this Obama White House purposedly changed Isis *Intel
    to soften it's impact.

    * Changed and cooked to make seem less tragic.
     
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    What Obama actually said was that by mistreating all refugees on the remote threat of a terrorist being able to get into the US by posing as a refugee (something that has never happened, since we have a very good system for vetting refugees), you create a situation where those refugees have little choice but to turn to groups like ISIS to protect them from the corrupt governments they are fleeing from. We have to work to make sure those in need do not have to turn to our enemies for help.
     
  11. bwk

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    Actually, Obama is spot on, and the GOP doesn't have sense enough to pour (*)(*)(*)(*) out of a boot. Bush and his cronies started these wars, and now they won't take responsibility for creating ISIS, while ISIS continues laughing at them for wanting to turn refugees away, while the horrors continue for the weak and helpless. The GOP wants to give ISIS everything ISIS wants. The GOP is the gift that wish to keep giving, but without the good horse sense to see that ISIS gets exactly what they want, if the GOP gets to do what they want.
     
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    Yeah you got this rant from Barack The Not So Bright
    ~ Barack The Not Real Smart

    Section 1158 of Title 8, U.S. Code:
    an alien applying for admission must establish that … religion [among other things] … was or will be at least one central reason for persecuting the applicant.

    So under federal law, the executive branch is expressly required to take religion into account in determining who is granted asylum.

    To qualify for asylum in the United States, the applicant must be a “refugee” as defined by federal law.

    Section 1101(a)(42)(A) of Title , U.S. Code also requires the executive branch to take account of the alien’s religion:

    The term “refugee” means (A) any person who is outside any country of such person’s nationality … and who is unable or unwilling to return to … that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of … religion [among other things] …
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why Left nut instead of right.? Just askin' ... mind ya.
    Could it be some sort of code.Like Obama's name.
    Is any part of Barack Hussein Obama even remotely American.
    Plus what ever happened to that one Missing year of Obama after he
    got into Columbia.He went form the 2 Years at Occidental into Columbia.
    He never attended Columbia for 2 years.There are no College transcripts
    available whatever,wherever to explain where Obama went for that missing
    year.Because his Travel log records have been wiped clean.
    Where WAS Obama in his supposed Junior year.In Indonesia practicing
    his Faith.?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    " What Obama actually said "will go down in History as The Biggest Joke
    on America ever conceived.As if somehow Obama can actually say anything,
    and mean anything,and still cover his Marxist,Radical butt.
    Sorry Charlie,that won't cut it.Even kids in grade school know better.
     
  15. Steady Pie

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    Clearly he was helping the lizard people gain a foothold in South East Asia, that's been a real trouble region for them as the geography makes it dificcult for them to effectively move between nations and govern from the shadows.

    The lizard people (ie: Muslims) have compulsory national service for a period of one year. It's a common misconception that these lizard people who control the world get 72 virgins when they die - they actually get 72 bottles of extra virgin olive oil, to bask in the sun with.

    Overthrow the NWO/lizard people/reverse vampires.
     
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    I think that Obama has already implemented religious tests on the refugees. Of the ones he has already allowed in(between 2 and 3 thousand), 96% of them have been Muslim, 2% Christian and 2% other. Do you think that's fair? Christians are the ones who are being murdered in horrible ways by ISIS. Why isn't Obama being fair? Why does he always give preferential treatment to Muslims?
     
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    Link to these stats please? Also what country are these refugees in the stat coming from? Can you tell me the religious landscape of said country.
     
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    Iraq may have been started under Bush, but Obama is the continuation of Bush despite his claim as being the "peace" president. The world is in no better shape under Obama. In fact, the world is worse off. Wherever he and Hillary/Kerry have gone, trouble has followed. They made Libya a disaster. They have made Syria a disaster and has caused ISIS and allowed it to grow by not attacking them. He has caused all of these refugees to be displaced. His foreign policy is the pits.
    Right here in the US, we are not better off than we were before Obama. Obamacare is crumbling just like everyone predicted it would. Despite what Obama says, there is more than 5% unemployment. There is divisiveness here that is unprecedented. There are more poor and people on welfare and food stamps than ever before. And what his lemmings don't get is that his administration tells you how wonderful he is by fudging numbers and lying knowing that some Americans are too gullible to question him. Have they not figured out that politicians lie and Obama is the KING of prevarication? He is unraveling right before our eyes.
     
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    He knows that the U.S. Supplied ISIS with heavy weapons and SAM'S, he also knows what the inside of his colon looks like, he sees it all the time.
     
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    Hey, I'm all for helping these families, especially the young children. However, when it come to the military aged non-married men, that is where I put on the brakes. I understand that Canada just made the same decision. They will accept families with children but no military aged men. Because most of them have been radicalized, I'd make a deal with Jordan and send them back there. Perhaps they can be sent back to fight for their country.
     
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    Hmm...., why is it that you would make a claim like that while believing the Sarah Palin said she could see Russia from her window?
     
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    I don't recall saying anything about that. Stop assuming that anyone who disagrees with you is a Democrat.
     
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    But if ISIS is contained and Jihadi groups like them so few as you tell us, they have plenty of Islamic countries to go to.

    Why didnt the very good systems for vetting work in Afghanistan with all the green on blue attacks? Many soldiers lost their lives due to poor vetting and now you want to expose civilians to it?
     
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    Best to take a nuanced view here. For instance, Shi'ite and Kurdish military aged men are categorically at no risk of being recruited to ISIS. They are completely opposed, far more than the West and ISIS, for instance.

    And yet, they are likely at very high risk of being ethnically cleansed, especially Kurds and Shia to the north of the country. At a very minimum this whole discussion should move from Muslims to Sunni Muslims.
     
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    Okay now put yourself in the shoes of a military aged non-married man, you're not radicalized.
     

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