"Price Tag" bullies got caught by Palestinians

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  1. Gilos

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    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4474266,00.html

    Great story, I would have beat them up abit more than the Palestinians so I salute them for their tolerance, it proves there are some very good ppl on the other side.

    The "price tag" goons were arrested by IDF, till now 4 were released but the leaders will be charged with harming the national security, hopfully they will lead to other price tag goons.
     
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    So, the settlers entered a palestinian village and started beating children.. Really great story. The question is how this great story may be trusted.
    I look at the pictures in the article and see beaten and wounded settlers. Where is the picture of the beaten and wounded young boy? Where are pictures of beaten palestinians?
    OK. I read later written detailed article in another site about the incident (hebrew). And the picture is changed. There is no word about a wounded boy. And the village starts to be Jilod. But what about Qusra? According to the article their villagers came to the settlement and started attacking settlers just after the evacuation, before the settlers exit from the settlement.
    http://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/147499

    Is all this stuff worth to be trust? It's your choice.
     
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    Hardly likely the IDF guard settlers legal or not. They even guard settlers while they are attacking Palestinian people, homes or means of livelihood.
     
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    They shouldnt have been there end of story, when I was in reserves we used to "hunt" them, setting an ambush and catching them before they get to some deserted hill and build tents there, these are the real crazies, I've talked with them several times, nuts, dangerous ppl, thank God they dont have weapons.

    Even if they entered the village to spray hateful messeges - they deserve a beating, I would have done the same if some anti semite would enter my village to spray swasticas.
     
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    It's not about beating but about lynch. It was pointed several times in the article that it's only accidently didn't end by killings.
    BTW Are you sure that the settlers haven't weapons? The settlement participate in Mishmeret Yesha...
     
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    I pointed out their tolerance so it didnt end up in a lynch, ofc if it did then my post would have been very diffrent, but they did guard them and it is commandable,

    I dont think they issue the nuts weapons, I didnt see they have any when I was there.
     
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    European and North African Jews are once again attacking the children of the Israelites - the Palestinians - whose ancestors never left in the Diaspora Zionist lie, but simply remained in the area.
     
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    Baloney :

    Arab mob abducts and violently beats 30 Jewish residents of Judea

    http://bit.ly/1cB1LcU
     
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    I don't accept such tolerance and I'm not ready to praise somebody just for he didn't kill me. If the settlers are wrong they should be detained, investigated,judged and jailed. Those who wont to make lynch should be severe punished. Nobody has right to beat and kill people.
     
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    I agree - the illegal Jewish Colonies built beyond Israel's internationally UN 1967 borders - shouldn't be there.

    but it seem that some settlers do have firearms .

    Israeli soldiers seen standing by as settlers use live fire against Palestinians

    A violent series of events that culminated in Israeli settlers apparently opening fire with live ammunition on Palestinian villagers in the West Bank under the gaze of Israeli soldiers has been captured in a series of films posted on YouTube.

    [video=youtube;00W-eThntOs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00W-eThntOs[/video]


    The footage, filmed by local Palestinian women hiding in their homes on the outskirts of Asira village, shows an alarming and rapid escalation in violence, captured from the moment a group of settlers, some masked and armed with guns, descended from their hilltop settlement. The Yitzhar settlers claim Palestinians had lit fires around their outposts.


    The amateur footage appears to show the settlers gathered on the outskirts of the village throwing rocks, quickly met with a shower of stones from Palestinian youths who rushed from their homes to confront the mob. A few minutes later, Israeli boarder police are seen arriving at the fray.


    In the scenes that follow, several of the Jewish settlers armed with M4 rifles - one wearing what appears to be a police cap - are seen to point their guns at the group of Palestinian men and open fire. The Israeli soldiers present appear to do nothing to stop them from shooting.

    In this moment, Fathi Asayira, 24, is shot in the head. The urgent yells of Mr Asayira’s neighbours rushing to help him are captured in the footage, which has been collected and posted online by Israeli human rights group B’Tselem. Mr Asayira is currently in a stable condition in a hospital in Nablus. Five other Palestinians were injured by stones thrown during the incident.

    “The video footage raises grave suspicions that the soldiers present did not act to prevent the settlers from throwing stones and firing live ammunition at the Palestinians,” explains Sarit Mitchell, director of B’Tselem, a group that is closely monitoring an alleged increase in violence perpetrated by Israeli settlers against Palestinian communities in the West Bank.

    “The [settler attack] itself is not unusual but it is rare for settlers to open fire. They have no authority to use live ammunition but in any case, you can see this was not a life threatening situation. And most severe of all, several soldiers are standing by and letting this happen.”





    read more :

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...tlers-use-live-fire-against-Palestinians.html
     
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    I can't be the ONLY one wondering what a "Price Tag" bully is, am I? Are these guys going into grocery stores and changing the tags on a can of soup from $1.50 to three for $6?
     
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    Sorry.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_tag_policy
     
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    Indiscriminate acts of revenge usually by Israeli settlers or right wingers on Palestinians

    http://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/Price tag-1.477120

    On this one Gilos's account would appear to be the true one

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-price-of-a-price-tag/
     
  15. Gilos

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    And then called IDF to pick them up ?, we hardly have that potent :weed: in Israel to make that statement make sence,

    Be thankful there was no lynching, I hope that incident gave one or two of them some sane perspective on thier suroundings, if they were brought up in the spirit of Judaism then they should ponder on what they went throu.
     
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    Really? And assertion that a dozen of unarmed settlers entered a palestinian village with 5000 inhabitants in the middle of the day to make "tag price" and to beat a young boy makes sense?
     
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    Indeed. This is the difference between an Israeli who has actually served his country and people in the West Bank or wherever, and a typical internet zionist fanatic who only serves his own ego.
     
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    Not to you because you sre sain, it is to them because they think God protects them in whatever they do - that's at least what one told me when we arrested them near "Homesh" ex-settlment, besides, its what price tag do, they come into a village and start to burn things, possibly the current peace talks drved them even more mad.
     
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    Like I said, if we were living in some polish village and some anti semites would come to spray swasticas on our houses - I would have beat them up, I would break their arms in a ceremonial way, so I say those price tag got off easy and the Palestinians were responsible enough not get emotions take over and did call the army to pick them up. that's commandable IMO.
     
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    This is probably what Mr deranged Yariv Oppenheimer is under the influence...

    Peace Now" is a Terrorist Organization

    The time really has come to declare "Peace Now" to be an anti-Jewish terrorist organization. "Peace Now" pretends to be an organization seeking peace, one concerned with human rights. Of course, every anti-Jewish organization in the world these days pretends to be a human rights group. "Peace Now" is also openly anti-democratic.
    The latest manifestation of the fact that "Peace Now" is essentially a terrorist group came in the aftermath of a violent incident that took place earlier this week. A group of Jewish settlers in the West Bank from a village named "Eish Kodesh" was attacked by violent Palestinians after entering the Arab town of Kusra. There is some controversy over what happened. The settlers in question claim they were just out for an innocent stroll and were attacked for no reason. Others, including people from the Right and even Dani Dayan from the Yesha Council and Moshe Yaalon, claim they entered the Arab town as a provocation. The media are suggesting that the settlers were somehow connected with the shadowy "Price Tag" group of people who allegedly vandalize Arab property. Whatever the truth, they were beaten and eventually extracted from the Arab town by security forces. Some media reports are claiming that local Arabs prevented the other Arabs from lynching them.

    The anti-democratic head of Peace Now, Yariv Oppenheimer, immediately issued a statement praising the Arab hooligans and complimenting them on their violent attack against the Jews, although also complimenting them for not actually murdering the Jews. See this: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/176041#.Us51k_QW3-o. I would love to see what would happen if Peace Now activists were beaten but not murdered by a group of Jewish settlers. Would Oppenheimer also praise them?

    Oppenheimer added:

    “Good job to the residents of the village of Kusra, who kept alive the ‘price tag’ activists who came to bring judgment on them,” Oppenheimer wrote in a post to Facebook, repeating as fact the attackers’ claims that the Jewish men had planned to vandalize Arab property in a “price tag” revenge attack for the destruction of Jewish vineyards.

    “If the situation were reversed, and Palestinians had entered a settlement to hurt Jews, it would have ended in a lynch and in deaths,” he claimed. “Under the claim of ‘self defense.’”

    Talk about Orwellian inversion! Oppenheimer then laid out his notion of democracy thus:

    Oppenheimer concluded by suggesting that the Jewish men who were detained and beaten by the mob should be put on trial. “All of the rightists should be put on trial for trying to hurt innocent people, and for endangering the lives of IDF soldiers,” he proposed.

    "Peace Now" has now issued a call to demolish Eish Kodesh. See this: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/176089#.Us5zf_QW3-o . Curiously, "Peace Now" has never issued any calls to demolish any Arab village whose members have been involved in violence. So even if we take at face value the version of events holding that the settlers involved were provocateurs, "Peace Now" is clearly leading a one-sided anti-Jewish campaign to demolish the homes of Jews.

    2. Meanwhile, for the past year or so, the Israeli Left has a new cause. The Left seeks to end Israel's existence as a Jewish state. It has long attempted to end Israel's Jewish character by lobbying for maximum Arab migration into Israel. But to the great disappointment of the Left, Israel has remained a country with over 80% of its population Jewish.

    But then came the golden opportunity of ending the Jewish character of the country by flooding it with African infiltrators. Tens of thousands of illegal infiltrators from Eritrea (and to a lesser extent from Sudan) have entered Israel. Netanyahu and his team were asleep at the wheel and did nothing to stop this invasion until the residents of southern Tel Aviv took to the streets in enraged revolt. Southern Tel Aviv has been transformed into a Third World cauldron of disease and crime by the concentration of the infiltrators there. One cannot walk on the beaches of Tel Aviv these days without being victimized by African criminals. There have been cases of rape and murder perpetrated by the infiltrators. None of the Africans have been housed in the buildings where leftist professors and journalists live.

    All this is a dream come true for the Left. Its deepest desire is to see Israel converted into a non-Jewish Third World backwaters. The clueless Africans have been conscripted by the organized Israeli Left, which is operating with funding from the Eurotrash. Tiny Leftist groups have organized mass demonstrations for the Africans, hiring scores of buses for them and equipping them with signs, speeches, and slogans, all designed to help them pressure the government into allowing them to stay. Yesterday 10,000 of them were bused to the Knesset by the Left, and an even larger rally was orchestrated for them earlier in the week in Tel Aviv by the anti-Israel Left.

    The Left also wants the Africans to serve as an instrument for demonizing Israel and portraying it as "heartless" and racist The Africans at the direction of the Leftist groups are pretending to be refugees in fear of their lives from the dangers back in their home countries. In reality, every single African in Israel entered from Egypt, not from Eritrea or Sudan, and every single one of them entered because the minimum wage in Israel is 20 times more than they can earn in their home countries. Not a single one tried to enter Libya or the Gaza Strip from Egypt. Not a single country in Africa allows Eritrean and Sudanese wannabe-migrants to enter their borders freely and seek employment there. But the media are not reporting any of that. Instead, the Left in Israel uses the Africans as political plantation hands to help paint Israel as racist for the world media, which are in any case biased and hostile.
     
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    Oh god not this nonsense again, you have been debunked by numerous genetic studies which prove conclusively that not only are the majority of modern Jews direct descendents of the indigenous population of the Levant but that the Arabs did not arrive until the Islamic conquests, the Palestinians are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula not the Levant.

    And now that the debunking of your Khazar conspiracy propaganda is out of the way I'll say that the price taggers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law they are not only criminals but serve nothing but to further the anti-Israeli propaganda war.
     
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    Throwing rocks at peoples head is attempted murder in the real world, if that were to happen here in the United States one would be well within their legal rights to defend themselves to lethal force as per our stand your ground laws.
     
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    Im not a supporter of peace now and Im not about to join a a Jewish lynch party.
     
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    "Hats off to Americans for Peace Now, it amazes me how the American population fails to see that many of the policies of Israel clearly provoke unrest in the middle east. Sadly, it is not difficult to understand why, our political system is manipulated with the cancer of special interest groups who buy representation in our congress against the will of the people. Until campaign reform comes we will never have any form of peace. "

    " Americans for Peace Now >

    "


    We've all heard the arguments of the religious and political right-wing on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Filled with finalities and absolutes, they categorically rule out options, deny possibilities, and imply that believing otherwise is naive, foolish, and irresponsible. They argue that pro-Israel can mean only one thing: endorsing their hard-line views.


    Americans for Peace Now rejects this approach. We know that pro-Israel does not mean blindly supporting policies that are irrational, reckless, and counter-productive. Pro-Israel means supporting policies that are consistent with Israel's interests and promote its survival as a Jewish, democratic state - policies such as making peace with Egypt and Jordan, and pursuing peace with Syria and the Palestinians. And we know that ill-conceived extremist schemes - like filling the West Bank and Gaza with settlements - have cost (and continue to cost) Israel dearly.

    You've heard the arguments of the religious and political right-wing, and so have we. They've had their say. Now, we'll have ours.
    Is Peace Possible?
    Why The Two-State Solution?
    Why should the U.S. care about Israeli-Palestinian peace?

    Many more questions and answers - Read and Learn :

    http://peacenow.org/pages/they-say-we-say.html

    ...
     

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