"Price Tag" bullies got caught by Palestinians

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    Also the power of the corporate mainstream media to consciously mislead and distort fact into fiction should not be underestimated. Extensive Academic studies conducted by both Cardiff and Glasgow Universities show that pro-Israeli bias in terms of the reporting of the Israel/Palestine issue is inherent and systematic.
     
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    Peace Now's Mission Statement



    APN is the sister organization of Shalom Achshav, Israel's preeminent peace movement. APN's mission is to educate and persuade the American public and its leadership to support and adopt policies that will lead to comprehensive, durable, Israeli-Palestinian and Israeli-Arab peace, based on a two-state solution, guaranteeing both peoples security, and consistent with U.S. national interests. We also work to ensure Israel's future and the viability of Israel's democracy and Jewish character through education, activism and advocacy in the United States, and by mobilizing American support for Shalom Achshav.

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    Not so , - Your Zionist funded genetict studies are in hot dispute amongst geneticists.

    Jews have always been a minority in the Levant - majority being non-Jews. Palestinians are predominantly the indigenous people of the region who was Arabized after the region including J'lem's Jewish minority was liberated by Umar Al-Khattab from its previous Byzantine rulers.
    btw - Why in your opinion is it aKhazar "conspiracy" ? Where did it originate from ? Who was the original "conspirators ? and for what purpose. or gain. ?

    Do you deny that there ever was a Jewish Khazar Kingdom ?
    In which case you should complain to JVL

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/khazars.html#10

    Those who call themselves "Jews " today are most unlikely to be descendants of a biblical Abraham or even Israelites .


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    That depends if rocks are the only weapons available, and if you're throwing it at invading thieves - an unbiased judge (even in US ) will no doubt take all relevant factors into consideration concerning the incident.

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    We've put this bull(*)(*)(*)(*) assertion to rest a long time ago:


    Jewish and Middle Eastern non-Jewish populations share a common pool of Y-chromosome biallelic haplotypes

    M. F. Hammer*†‡,
    A. J. Redd*†,
    E. T. Wood*†,
    M. R. Bonner*,
    H. Jarjanazi*,
    T. Karafet*,
    S. Santachiara-Benerecetti¶,
    A. Oppenheim‖,
    M. A. Jobling**,
    T. Jenkins‡‡,
    H. Ostrer††, and
    B. Bonné-Tamir§

    Author Affiliations

    *Laboratory of Molecular Systematics and Evolution, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721; ¶Department of Genetics, Università degli Studi di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy; ‖Hadassah Medical School, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem 91120, Israel; **Department of Genetics, University of Leicester, Leicester LE1 7RH, England; ‡‡SAMIR, University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg 2000, South Africa; ††Department of Pediatrics, New York University Medical Center, New York, NY 10016; and §Department of Human Genetics, Sackler School of Medicine, Ramat Aviv 69978, Israel

    Communicated by Arno G. Motulsky, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (received for review November 17, 1999)


    I guess the Laboratory of Molecular Systematics and Evolution, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721; ¶Department of Genetics, Università degli Studi di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy; **Department of Genetics, University of Leicester, Leicester LE1 7RH, England; ‡‡SAMIR, University of Witwatersrand, Johannesburg 2000, South Africa; ††Department of Pediatrics, New York University Medical Center, New York, NY 10016; and the peer review process of the University of Washington are all in on the Jewish conspiracy.

    There were only two Israeli medical laboratories involved in the study the ‖Hadassah Medical School, Hebrew University of Jerusalem, Jerusalem 91120, Israel; and the §Department of Human Genetics, Sackler School of Medicine, Ramat Aviv 69978, Israel, so I guess that invalidates the entire study in the world of the rabid anti-Semite.

    1. Atzmon G, Hao L, Pe'er I, Velez C, Pearlman A, Palamara PF, Morrow B, Friedman E, Oddoux C, Burns E, Ostrer H. "Abraham's children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern ancestry." American Journal of Human Genetics 2010;86(6):850-859, doi:10.1016/j.ajhg.2010.04.015.
    1) Department of Pediatrics, Human Genetics Program, NYU Langone Medical Center, New York, NY; 2) Department of Medicine, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; 3) Department of Computer Science, Columbia University, New York, NY; 4) Department of Genetics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; 5) Chaim Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel; 6) Center for Genome Informatics, New Jersey Medical School, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark, NJ.


    I suppose the Department of Pediatrics, Human Genetics Program NYU Langone Medical Center, New York, NY; the Department of Medicine, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; the Department of Computer Science, Columbia University, New York, NY; the Department of Genetics, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; and the Center for Genome Informatics, New Jersey Medical School, University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey, Newark, NJ are all Zionist mouthpieces as is the peer reviewed American Journal of Human Genetics.

    In this case the only Israeli University involved in the study was Chaim Sheba Medical Center, Tel Hashomer, Israel; so I guess that once again the entire study is invalidated in the world of the rabid anti-Semite.

    2. Behar DM, Metspalu M, Metspalu E, Rosset S, Parik J, Rootsi S, Chaubey G, Kutuev I, Yudkovsky G, Khusnutdinova EK, Balanovsky O, Semino O, Pereira L, Comas D, Gurwitz D, Bonne-Tamir B, Parfitt T, Hammer MF, Skorecki K, Villems R. "The genome-wide structure of the Jewish people." Nature 2010;466:238-242, doi:10.1038/nature09103. The Estonian Biocentre and Department of Evolutionary Biology, University of Tartu, Tartu 51010, Estonia, the Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics, Ufa Research Center, Russian Academy of Sciences, Ufa 450054, Russia, the Research Centre for Medical Genetics, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Moscow 115478, Russia, the Dipartimento di Genetica e Microbiologia, Università di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy, the Instituto de Patologia e Imunologia Molecular da Universidade do Porto (IPATIMUP), Porto 4200-465, Portugal, the Faculdade de Medicina, Universidade do Porto, Porto 4200-319, Portugal, the Institute of Evolutionary Biology (CSIC-UPF), CEXS-UPF-PRBB and CIBER de Epidemiología y Salud Pública, Barcelona 08003, Spain, the Department of the Languages and Cultures of the Near and Middle East, Faculty of Languages and Cultures, School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, London WC1H 0XG, UK, the ARL Division of Biotechnology, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona 85721, USA, the Molecular Medicine Laboratory, Rambam Health Care Campus, Haifa 31096, Israel, Department of Human Molecular Genetics and Biochemistry, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv 69978, Israel, the Department of Statistics and Operations Research, School of Mathematical Sciences, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv 69978, Israel, the Rappaport Faculty of Medicine and Research Institute, Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, Haifa 31096, Israel

    I guess the Estonian Biocentre and Department of Evolutionary Biology, University of Tartu, Tartu 51010, Estonia, the Institute of Biochemistry and Genetics, Ufa Research Center, Russian Academy of Sciences, Ufa 450054, Russia, the Research Centre for Medical Genetics, Russian Academy of Medical Sciences, Moscow 115478, Russia, the Dipartimento di Genetica e Microbiologia, Università di Pavia, Pavia 27100, Italy, the Instituto de Patologia e Imunologia Molecular da Universidade do Porto (IPATIMUP), Porto 4200-465, Portugal, the Faculdade de Medicina, Universidade do Porto, Porto 4200-319, Portugal, the Institute of Evolutionary Biology (CSIC-UPF), CEXS-UPF-PRBB and CIBER de Epidemiología y Salud Pública, Barcelona 08003, Spain, the Department of the Languages and Cultures of the Near and Middle East, Faculty of Languages and Cultures, School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS), University of London, London WC1H 0XG, UK, and the ARL Division of Biotechnology, University of Arizona, Tucson, Arizona 85721, USA, are all Zionist mouthpieces as is the peer reviewed Nature Magazine.

    Uh oh in this case we have 4 Israeli out of total of 13 Universities involved in the study, they are the Molecular Medicine Laboratory, Rambam Health Care Campus, Haifa 31096, Israel, Department of Human Molecular Genetics and Biochemistry, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv 69978, Israel, the Department of Statistics and Operations Research, School of Mathematical Sciences, Tel Aviv University, Tel Aviv 69978, Israel, the Rappaport Faculty of Medicine and Research Institute, Technion – Israel Institute of Technology, Haifa 31096, Israel

    Now kindly post your evidence that these were "Zionist funded genetic studies", I'll be waiting with baited breath. :roll:

    No they are not, Elhaik has been completely debunked.
     
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    Rocks are not the only weapons available except perhaps to the child soldiers whom the Palestinian militant Islamists regularly employ.


    The settlements were established at a time when there was no sovereign Palestinian authority or state, but now that Palestine has received nominal UN recognized sovereignty I consider the settlements to be illegal under the Geneva Conventions prohibition on transferring civilians onto occupied territory, however, if they are to be recognized as a civilian population being transferred onto occupied territory rather than a legal military force then targeting them is likewise a crime or in other words if the settlements are illegal then by definition targeting them must likewise be illegal.
     
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    Does it mean that targeting legal settlements is legal? :confusion:
     
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    No - Elhaik has not as your ******** source course - claimed - debunked , on the contrary its been confirmed/supported by a 2013 study of Ashkenazi mitochondrial DNA, from the University of Huddersfield in England, suggests that at least 80 percent of the Ashkenazi maternal lineages derive from the assimilation of mtDNAs indigenous to Europe, probably as a consequence of conversion.

    Since the middle of the 20th century, many Ashkenazi Jews have intermarried, both with members of other Jewish communities and with people of other nations and faiths, while some Jews have also adopted children from other ethnic groups or from other parts of the world and have raised them as Jews. Conversion to Judaism, rare for nearly 2,000 years, has become more common.

    Face your, no matter how many times you post CRAP - it'll never become Corn Flakes or Caviar , it's always remain CRAP .

    there's really no way of getting away / distorting the fact that AshkeNasties are a mixed breed and NOT direct descendants from Ancient Judaens/Israelites/ etc.

    btw - If you're so convinced by the crap which you MONOTOUSLY keep posting , then why did you take part in Elhaik's Genome Challenge .

    Google it and learn .:roll:
     
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    Whether in your opinion PALESTINE WAs A SOVEREIGN authority or state , when Zionist Jews attacked + carried out a program of ethic cleansing - displacing./disposing indigenous majority non-Jews to make room to solve Europe's Jewish problem , is imo - irrelevant It was a crime against humanity.

    OMG - :roflol: sounds like you're contradicting your earlier post when you said :

    Frankly , as a kid I've thrown a few stones, never thought of them as "lethal weapons" Huh ?



    However , I do appreciate the fact that the Zionist state of Israel is light years away from the legal system from Western civilization's standards. .

    Hmmm.
     
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    I noticed that you are a willing accommodater, probably a Laborite or Shomer Hatzair type, these old times have gone by...
    Jews are entitled to walk anywhere in their own country and if some vigilantes between them, are seeking revenge, they should do that (I hope) on their own volition and responsibility.

    Thousands of Arab workers travel/come to Israel proper to work, have you seen any Jew beating on them? Why is it then that when Jews walk in an Arab town they are subjected to stones and sticks? Are we not in our country?

    Some years back some soldiers walked in an Arab town by mistake and they were butchered and their dead bodies thrown out of windows and the murderers showed they hands 'red with the blood of these innocent soldiers' to photographers... Do you approve of that?

    he 2000 Ramallah lynching was a violent incident in October 2000 at the beginning of the Second Intifada in which a Palestinian mob killed and mutilated the bodies of two Israel Defense Forces reservists, Vadim Nurzhitz (sometimes spelled as Norzhich) and Yossi Avrahami (or Yosef Avrahami),[1] who had accidentally entered the Palestinian Authority-controlled city of Ramallah in the West Bank and were taken into custody by PA policemen to the local police station.
     
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    Try to get a few stones into your high speed vehicle while driving and think again.
     
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    That just another of your lies or the lies which you've been gullible enough to swallow - majority of resistance fighters are not children , however , I agree children are stupid and share the pain of oppression dished out to their parents by ZioNazi Jews. AS LOng as Jews oppress + treat non-Jewish inhabitants like "Untermensche" they'd continue to be hated..

    Jewish settlers/colonists are HTE -FILLED they've violated - have made no attempts to respect non-Jewish legitimate rights - their actions /criminal acts have often gone unpunished (or leniently dealt with) within Israel's judicial system

    In Israel there One Law for a Jew + another , more harsh , for a non-Jewish Palestinian - and that's a FACT.

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    HUH ? What high speed vehicle. ?
     
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    Ferrari la Ferrari
     
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    Truth is important. You will find that any media who wants to have any credibility is admitting that it was the settlers who went on a price tag raid and when they threw a rock which hit a Palestinian kid, the Palestinians fought back. They may begin with 'poor settlers' if their bias is more than their morality, but by the time you get to the end of the story you will find they have admitted the truth, even if it is very hard for them to say.


    Which is pretty much the story. Except that these settlers also have a long history of violence



    http://peacenow.org/entries/peace_n...ow+ (Americans+for+Peace+Now)# .Us8UobSNtAE

    It almost certainly would have.

    You seem to have no contact with reality. All settlements are illegal under International Law - all of them. This one is even illegal under Israeli Law. Now what happens when people come and set up an illegal settlement (outpost)? They immediately get protection from the IDF, they get electricity and they get running water - though the palestinians whose land it is and whose water it is more often than not have to go without except for buying very expensive drinking water. When the EU, both Germany and Spain spend millions of Euro's erecting solar electricity for them, Israel blows it up. Add to that the persistent violence from these people and what Peace Now says is just what any lawful person would.

    As for demolishing Palestinian homes and villages.

    http://www.icahd.org/

    and was it not just around Christmas that Israel demolished a Bedouin village - one which resulted in EU Politicians who came to offer support being beaten up. - never mind arguing whether you believe they deserved to be beaten up, it is just a recent example of Israel demolishing villages of Palestinians. Look at Hebron which has almost been shut down by unruly settlers and the IDF supporting them.

    [video=youtube;ydOuU3rbi_A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOuU3rbi_A[/video]

    These people have no rights so Peace Now tries to help them including as you will know providing them with video cameras so that they can take pictures of the attacks.

    Well if your still blethering about Peace Now, I notice when visiting their site that they believe a two state solution is still possible

    http://peacenow.org.il/eng/OsloSummary

    But you will have to start packing your knapsack because it is people with your signature, people who want to take over the West Bank and ethnically cleanse the Palestinians by various means including that of the OP, which will be the reason why Israel does not remain a Jewish State.
     
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    These racist settler pigs should have had the (*)(*)(*)(*) beat out of them
     
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    The Islamonazi swine regularly employ child soldiers to murder innocent Jews, they use them as both human shields and human bombs even going so far as to unknowingly planting them on children and trying to detonate them by remote. As long as Muslim supremacists continue to slaughter their own children and the children of others to spread Islam by the sword and bring all of dar al-Harb into the fold of dar al-Islam by force all across the globe they will continue to be hated.

    Israeli-Arabs have full and equal rights under the law, of course an enemy people the vast majority of which support the intentional targeting of Israeli civilians (settlers and non-settlers alike) will not have the same rights as Israeli citizens.

    And I notice that you completely left out a response to the portion of my post which draws your legal argument to its only logical conclusion IE that it is a war crime to target the settlers because by your own definition they are civilians, because if they are not civilians but combatants then their presence within the West Bank is perfectly legitimate under the laws and customs of war.
     
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    One told.. And that's all?
    You accuse them only because of their ideology and I consider this specific incident and the facts. And the only facts are the initial attack by stones of the settlement by arabs and detained and severe beaten settlers. That's all.
    Palestinians successfully forgot a brutally beaten and wounded palestinian young boy. And there is only one real Reuters witness, a palestinian farmer:
    "I was tending my fields when a group of around 30 settlers came down the hill and attacked us with stones."
    "We chased them and they fled to a house under construction. They were cornered there and some of the people here beat them - they had attacked us on our own land."
    A Reuters witness said villagers beat 15 settlers with their fists and sticks. Some bled from the head and mouth.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/07/us-israel-palestinians-settlers-idUSBREA060QH20140107
    So actually settlers didn't enter the village.
    The only thing the settlers could be blamed is throwing stones. I agree that it shouldn't be. But it was the palestinians who approached the settlement and initiated clashes. In fact every day israeli cars are targeted by palestinians. So what? Palestinians should be beaten by fists and sticks until they are dead?
    Justice and lie are not compatible. And palestinians cannot stop lying and using children.
     
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    You can get a lot more IDF speaking of their experiences in the video in post 41 above

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=338441&page=5&p=1063490341#post1063490341


    Your 'facts' are contrary to the source you say gives them


    Your link

    Seems to me you have your knickers in a twist because extremists have been called out on attacking Palestinians this time. Humiliated, I believe the word is. Extremists no doubt fear their ability to carry on these attacks without consequences.

    (I am aware not all settlers are extremists)
     
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    It only seems to you. You or cannot or don't wont to differ facts and opinions. The words of the farmer can be considered as a fact because it is a direct speech. The content of the article is just an opinion like this:
    "Some ultranationalist settlers have responded to Israeli government efforts to rein them in with so-called "price tag" attacks on Palestinian property. The vandalism and harassment are designed to bog the authorities down in sectarian strife."
    The fact is that the evacuation of an illegal structure was planned and executed by the government and not by the settlers. And those were not settlers but arabs who attacked initially. The settlers just responded.
     
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    You are just making things up as you go along.

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4474266,00.html

    Three of the settlers later went on to throw rocks at Palestinian cars. They along with other settlers who attacked the Palestinians have been arrested. No Palestinians have regardless of normal protocol of arresting Palestinians when settlers have attacked them. This is a massive loss for your agenda. Massive. .

    Nobody has suggested that the settlers intended on leaving their illegal 'outpost'. What is suggested is that they decided to attack the Palestinians in revenge for action taken against them. I would also point out to you that the paper you are now arguing with is the one you gave to support your views. Unfortunately you also seemingly fail to be able to understand what it says! :roll:
     
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    Again you seek violence ??
     
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    Difference is that what I say is backed with evidence. Yours with nothing. Even your own links say the opposite to yourself. I think I have experienced this with you before. You do not understand that you need to back up what you say. When shown by evidence not to be speaking the truth you can only insult. You just believe that you say whatever you want and that makes it true. Facts, evidence the truth are of no interest to you. Let me try and help you again.

    http://972mag.com/palestinians-catch-settlers-allegedly-attempting-a-price-tag-attack/85198/

    Some more information on the previous Pogroms committed by these settlers.

    http://972mag.com/a-history-of-violence-in-qusra-not-clashes-but-pogroms/66625/



    Here is how it usually goes

    The following is a video of 4 sequential clips

    [video=youtube;7WBRO3Q_YGE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WBRO3Q_YGE#t=158[/video]

    for details look here http://972mag.com/watch-idf-soldiers-escort-masked-settlers-attacking-palestinian-village/85268/
     

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