Princeton students host musical titled 'To All the Babies I've Killed Before'

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Princeton students host musical titled 'To All the Babies I've Killed Before'
    A group of Princeton University students performed a feminist musical over the weekend focused on abortion and "self-empowerment."
    "To All the Babies I've Killed Before; A Love/Hate Letter to Storytelling" explores "the challenges of being heard and cultivating self-empowerment as a queer, cognitively-disabled (ADHD) woman in artistic spaces that traditionally center archaic, western, patriarchal narratives grounded in firm structures of storytelling and comedy," according to a program description.

    Princeton students host musical titled ‘To All the Babies I’ve Killed Before’ | The College Fix

    It seems apparent that the reason these feminists support abortion does not actually have to do with any belief that it is 'not a baby'.
    Rather, they are so confident in their beliefs and position they feel comfortable openly broadcasting their belief that, even if it is a baby, they still have the right to abort it.
     
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    you got crazy people on both sides, some even want to force child rape victims to have their rapists babies
     
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    They do...(shrug) ...another "so what" thread...
     
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    The issue is more that the government has NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER in denying healthcare to women.

    Doctors can't make proper decisions when the issue is whether they will get sued or have their license revoked.

    Thus, these laws are driving doctors away from OB/GYN, impacting the most standard needs of women who are pregnant.
     
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    Maybe they need some education from a Pro-Life doctor.
     
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    What the heck would a "pro-life" doctor have to say???

    They could tout their religious views, of course.

    But, any legitimate doctor in OB/GYN knows that there are numerous indications of health of the woman and the fetus where abortion is indicated.

    And, legislators, prosecutors and the general public can not pretend to be doctors for each and every OB/GYN patient.
     
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    This is entertainment. Have you ever heard Metallica Garage Days revisited?
     
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    The Ivies dropping standardized testing has really made a quick difference!
     
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    I don't think it is a "baby," when abortions usually occur, but even if it was, consider this. If donating your kidney were the only way to save a person's life, should you be forced to donate your kidney to save their life? Or is it your right to decide whether to donate your kidney, knowing that there are some risks involved but that normally people who donate one of their kidneys does fine? If you don't think somebody in that situation should be forced to donate their kidney, then you should be pro-choice because you believe in bodily autonomy.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Tell you what. That's a worthwhile discussion and hypothetical to think about, but you know as well as I do that would be a long & complicated discussion. Why don't you start a thread about so we can talk about it? You can leave the link here.
    Or maybe I should just start a free-for-all thread to discuss any topic related to abortion?
    Sometimes it feels like you people are trying to throw ten other unrelated arguments at me in every thread and expect me to have to defend them all...

    It seems every time I start a thread about how it is a baby, so pro-choicer always tries to start a long argument about how even if it is, people should still have the right to abort it. And every time I try to start a thread about that, a pro-choicer tries to change the argument and argue it doesn't matter because it's not a baby.
    In other words, always try to change the argument from what the discussion is about.
     
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    Gee I hadn't noticed.
     
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    LiveUninhibited said:
    but even if it was, consider this. If donating your kidney were the only way to save a person's life, should you be forced to donate your kidney to save their life?


    No, it's not "long and complicated"...we are not allowed to use another's body to sustain our life without consent...see, short and easy :)





    No, it isn't long....it is summed up here : ""even if it is, people should still have the right to abort it.""
    True.....except not all pro-choicers say that.




    :) Yup, those pesky facts are so annoying ;)

    AND your OP opens up lots of topics for discussion:

    ""A group of Princeton University students performed a feminist musical over the weekend focused on abortion and "self-empowerment."
    "To All the Babies I've Killed Before; A Love/Hate Letter to Storytelling" explores "the challenges of being heard and cultivating self-empowerment as a queer, cognitively-disabled (ADHD) woman in artistic spaces that traditionally center archaic, western, patriarchal narratives grounded in firm structures of storytelling and comedy," according to a program description."""


    LOL which parts do you want to discuss..
     
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    Nope. They're just being 20 year old edgelords who want to use anti-abortion lingo to provoke them.

    And it seems like it worked.
     
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    I'll bet you have a hard time understanding movies, novels and other forms of written and performance art - especially if the include satire or comedy.
     

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