"Pro-Choice" Hypocrites Rediscover the Right to Personal Autonomy

Of course, they do. Government mandates dictate what government "knows" bests. They don't dictate what individuals and their doctors know best.

Nature doesn't issue government mandates, and honest and responsible education and incentivization is where the government's role should end.

Privileges, not rights...

That goes for any matter where the government attempts to violate and/or usurp the individual's right to personal/bodily autonomy.

 

I just told you vaccine mandates are not defined as "Who knows best" its defined by whats required in order for certain aspects of society to function.
You cutting that out of my response does not negate that fact.

 

With an infectious disease its not just about want YOU want.

 

So what about doctors who work for the govt?

 

Interesting, I don't remember it ever being made illegal to not get vaccinated. Are you not vaccinated? if so tell us all about your legal troubles. In the meantime, here's a history lesson for you. Women in the past have been put in prison for getting an abortion, and sometimes imprisoned for miscarriages that were suspected of being an abortion. Many more women have died due to the lack of options available to them

 

Posted by someone with no sense of irony, self-awareness, or history. Planned Parenthood was founded by a white supremacist with the expressed intent of cleansing the American population; who openly compared blacks to weeds; who routinely spoke before the klan.

It's no mistake that pp has more than 85% of its abortion facilities in or near minority neighborhoods; 25 of them in the counties with the most abortions. “Although these 25 reflect just 1 percent of all U.S. counties, they accounted for 30 percent of all abortions in the U.S. in 2014." That's by design of its Glorious White Supremacist Founder. You probably have her poster on your wall:

There are honorable arguments to be made on both sides of the issue. Don't bother lying about what got the ball rolling, or the racist & eugenic venom that fueled it.

 

Fun fact, she also did not support a woman's right to get an abortion. She was in favor of eugenics, in favor of forced birth control of the lower classes, against immigration.. but was also against the option to get an abortion (with the exception of women with health risks). Don't believe me? look it up

#HistoryLesson

 

So you want to deny that the Biden Administration issued any vaccine mandates and that there weren't any punishments associated with those mandates?

I don't need any history lessons, thank you, and I remember the Lenny Bruce skits - lovely stuff. I also presume you were so preoccupied with giving people history lessons they don't need that you missed the fact that I'm opposed to the government violating a woman's right to personal/bodily autonomy.

 

People tell me all kinds of nonsense, like government mandates don't dictate what government "knows" best. That's why you can't argue with bureaucrats Anthony "Science" Fauci and Rachel Walensky - they know what's best, and you'll dutifully obey and keep your mouth shut.

Your body, their choice...

Well, that's not a fact. It's BS.

 

It’s killed a hell of a lot more people than Covid could ever dream of.

 

You're opposed to banning abortions, and I'm apposed to vaccine mandates, but both of these things are besides the point. The vaccine mandate that you are comparing to abortion restrictions does not exist. There is nothing in the law involving vaccines that is comparable to laws restriction a woman's access to an abortion.

but if you disagree, then perhaps you can elaborate with some comparisons?

 

Vaccines DO NOT work as advertised and what IS NOT being reported in the damage they are doing.

 

That was one of my first questions - if you are forcing a woman to have a baby, you are also forcing her to pay for the medical expenses associated (not to mention the cost of raising the child).

 

I'm opposed to both, and both of those things are pertinent to the point made in the OP.

The abortion ban doesn't exist either, but that's beside the point.

There most certainly is, and that was clearly articulated in the OP.

 

Assuming the mother isn't on Medicaid and isn't giving the child up for adoption.

By the way, the government already forces men to pay for the government's interference in the disposition of their children. Welcome to the club, ladies....

 

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How do you know how many people died because they caught the Covid from someone who refused the vaccine?

 

Not at all....

 

Not deadly to whom? The human with a unique DNA signature that Biden correctly called a child? The live born children who survived botched abortions --- only to be left to die --- with the blessings most Senate Democrats?

 

How do you know how many people died because dying WITH COVID doesn't equate to dying OF COVID? How many people died of blood clots because the health bureaucracy failed to inform people they forced to vaccinate the risks of flying while vaccinated?
We were told by the health bureaucracy that the vaccines prevent people from contracting COVID. Therefore, the unvaccinated are no threat to the compliant vaccinated.

 

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/05/03/how-many-have-been-murdered-by-covid-injection/

 

Yep, because women were just skating right through, being pregnant and having the child. It IS about time women had to assume some responsibility in having a child, right?

 

The OP makes a fair point.

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Only Abortion Absolutists maintain that the State has ZERO role in regulating abortions.

Any abortion regulations passed by the representative State Legislatures, even in the absence of Casey and Roe are still subject to Judicial review to ensure that they are rationally tailored to a legitimate State interests.

The great majority of the States and the great majority of the people understand that the States have a rational role in sensibly regulating abortion.

"Science!™ Showed Us That It’s a Baby, Not a “Clump of Cells”"

While I see no sensible case for regulating clipping fingernails, with the advent of ultrasound, clearly what is being destroyed is much more than that. I think the rational voter agrees that the State has a rational role in sensibly regulating fetal destruction. Of course the Abortion Absolutists will not budge an inch, but, that's the nature of zealots, not the nature of the give and take necessary for a healthy integrated society.

"Science!™ Helps More Premature Babies Survive and Thrive"

50 year old answers are not contemporaneous solutions.

For too long the absolutists have held control of this debate and now it's time for the reasonable middle to hammer out a compromise. Throughout Europe and the Western World, abortion is unregulated only until the 13th week, the MS standard at 15 weeks easily passes the reasonable standard.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...ng-to-hand-the-midterms-to-democrats-n1594759

 

That wasn't my point at all, Pants.

My point was that women will now be forced to pay for the government's interference into their own private, parental, reproductive affairs just as men have been forced to pay for the government's interference for decades now. This is a club that no man or woman should be forced to join, but the government appears poised to take the liberty of forcing women to join men in that club. That's not a knock on women, it's a knock on government and how if forces individuals to pay for its interference into matters it has no business interfering in at all. I don't blame women for being angry about this - they should be angry about it - but here we are, and this is what happens when we invite the government to intrude into every aspect of our existence.

Like I said in the OP, who wants MORE of this?

It's nigh astonishing that millions and millions and millions of Americans can't get enough of it, and we're handing the people running it the shovel to bury ourselves with.

 

Thanks for the clarification and sorry for the snark.