Pro-Life Activist Arrested For Praying Silently Outside An Abortion Clinic, Advocates Say

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    The "No true Scotsman" fallacy shamefully is used mostly by Christians. Someone needs to tell them that whenever you point a finger at someone you have three pointing back at yourself. I have only one standard for judging who is a true Christian. It's where they stand on Romans 10:9.
     
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    You're right. They aren't. They're interested in punishing speech that "offends" them. Snowflakes.
     
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    Controlling speech is about controlling thoughts.
     
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    Jesus is Lord. :)
     
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    That's why we declared our own Independence from them. To get away from that stifling garbage.
     
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    Yep and you believe God raised him from the dead. :)
     
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    Good point. Along with that is controlling how words are defined. The guy who said that words are mightier than the sword had it right. Control what people say and think and you'll never need weapons to defeat them.
     
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    But also the whispers in the dark corners are a much greater threat to those in control.
     
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    Yea, but with modern technology they're figuring out how to listen in on that also.
     
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    It'll always be there and it'll always only ever be a threat to them and that's good.
     
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    It’s worse than that they want to punish a woman because she is known to be pro-life. Just her being near >a closed abortion clinic< that they are so offended by what they think are offensive thoughts (prayers) being used silently in her mind.

    https://vision.org.au/health-the-wo...tivist-takes-on-abortion-clinic-buffer-zones/
    Read the whole article it is short… but I did do some snipping to keep it short. Since anyone who is interested can read the whole article with a click.

    A British pro-life activist has been arrested after claiming she was told by police she may have been silently praying near an abortion clinic when it >was closed.<
    Isabel Vaughan-Spruce was outside a Birmingham clinic when she was charged with four counts of violating a Public Space Protection Order.
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    The police were tipped off by an anonymous informer who said they saw the pro-lifer outside the clinic on three occasions while it >was closed.<

    At the police station, officers showed Ms. Vaughn-Spruce photos of herself outside the clinic and inquired whether she was praying.

    She responded by asserting that while she “might” have been praying in some of the pictures, she also could have been thinking about other topics such as her lunch.

    Under the initial terms of her release the pro-lifer was told she couldn’t contact a local Catholic priest, a condition that was later dropped.
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    “I was exercising my freedom of thought and my freedom of religion inside the privacy of my own mind,” she explained.

    “Nobody should be criminalised for thinking and for praying in a public space in the UK.”
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    She says an offer of a leaflet of help is branded as “harassment”, prayer is considered “protest” and a pro-lifer’s mere presence is said to be “intimidation”.


    :twocents: The Clinic was closed the 3 times she was seen by an anonymous informant. The police showed her photos. When questioning her about praying. The clinic was closed all 3 times. How can people who are not going in or out of a clinic that is closed be intimated?
     
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    She was in the buffer zone around the abortion clinic ;no go there.

    And she knew damn well where she was and got the outcome she wanted because if her prayers were actually sincere she would have prayed OUTSIDE of the banned zone.

    Then it's off to Fox Entertainment to declare victimhood...lol

    That's why she was charged with 4 counts.;



    UK woman arrested for praying near abortion center warns ...
    https://www.foxnews.com › media › uk-woman-arrested-...


    1 day ago — On "Tucker Carlson Tonight," Isabel Vaughan-Spruce said she has long engaged in silent prayer outside clinics, saying dozens of women have ..

    ."Four times, I went and stood near the closed abortion center and silently prayed there. And as you can see, the police came and asked me if I was protesting, which I wasn't. They asked me if I was praying, and I said I might be silently praying; I was arrested."
     
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    Good question. The law enforcing a buffer zone restricting silent prayer is ridiculous even if the clinic was open. Sometimes ridiculous laws like this need to be ignored in order to challenge them. Thank God for the United States where you can protest right in front of a SC Justice's home even though it's against the law and not get arrested. Of course if it was pro-life protesters in front of liberal Justice's homes they would have been rounded up in a New York minute.
     
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    Thanks. I agree. I agree. I agree. Yes, peaceful pro-life protestors would have been rounded up in a New York minute! The question is why would any peaceful protesters be rounded up? Simply answer…pro-life protests would have been labeled as intimidation in front of Liberal Supreme Court Justice’s homes versus the pro-choice protests would not be labeled as intimidation in front of Conservative Supreme Court Justices homes.My :twocents:
     
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    Hats off to this lady for going against the grain. If she wasn't disturbing the peace, I don't find her private praying to be offensive anywhere it's done. Maybe the proper UK ought to practice what they preach and try for some of that old fashioned civility that they demand of others. All that they managed to prove is that they're a bunch of intolerant hypocrites.
     
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    Thank GOD we live in a country where they don't try to make it a crime, for saying it. IOW, no buffer zones for Americans. Oh wait, for US citizens. Stanford says it's wrong for us to call ourselves Americans. I forgot. ;)
     
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    You can at least understand why Trudeau has the dictator tyrant mentality. He thinks like one of them from England.
     
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    If you live in America, you can't call yourself an American? :omg:
     
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    Hence, the speech robbing intolerant boobs in this country LOVE him and them. Oh boy, memories.
    Remember that one thread from another forum? Classic defense of the intolerant, progressive illiberal left.
     
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    Yep! I remember all the leftist praising the little tyrant for squashing freedom of speech.
     
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    Not according to them. You didn't see this?

    What silly nonsense but it is what it is. Fodder for our amusement. :roflol:
    Stanford: Don’t Call Yourself An American - USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page.
     
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    I even got called racist for my good deeds, calling out the defense of the intolerant, during that debate. I wear that one like badge of honor. :)
     
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    It's a typical card leftist use to try to shut someone up. That card is so worn out it screams for retirement.
     
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