Proof of a faked Apollo landing???

Discussion in 'Moon Landing' started by Bob0627, Nov 20, 2017.

  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    You are busted spammer. You know it, I know it and everyone who drops in to read your insane blundering comments will see it too.

    No part of this debate has had me in any difficulty. Once again you are just too ignorant to understand that the impact is irrelevant, that it MUST have been caused by the underside and that the only dust disturbed is perpendicular to a pushed downward falling flat surface. The air displaced by this moves in the direction of the fall, with some minor spill to the sides.

    Ergo, if there was sufficient air displaced to cause a sideways disturbance, the masses of dust directly ahead would have been blasted all over the place!

    Troll. You aren't thwarting anything, you are busted and know it.

    It's pretty clear that you are a very dishonest person acting dumb and doing a rather good job of it. It's also very similar to conversing with a small infant. There is such a thing as deductive reasoning and you seem to have a complete absence of this basic and easily acquired skill. From the video we can see a number of things:-
    • There is a plethora of dust. It is clearly and obviously covering most of the visible area. This is not up for debate, the film maker actually insists on it.
    • The lid for the sample container box is pushed shut. Again not up for debate, clearly visible.
    • It impacts the box and there is a small disturbance in the near corner. Again not up for debate, clearly visible.
    • A descending flat surface displaces air as it falls. Mainly in the direction of fall, but also to the sides. Similar to the draft from a closing door. Irrefutable and obvious.
    • There is not the slightest movement or displacement of any of the dust opposite to the direction the lid is falling. Nothing whatsoever!
    • In a vacuum, there would be no displaced air and subsequently no displaced dust. This is what is observed.
    • In a vacuum and low gravity, any impact vibrations would exaggerate the movements observed.
    • It is completely and irrefutably irrelevant which part of the lid impacts the box. We know it does impact because it stops!
    • Any lid falling onto a box must cause an impact force and it must be from the underside.
    Now from the responses being received from this serial forum spammer we can also see a number of things:-
    • Clearly he is diverting attention from the obvious lack of frontal air disturbance that is 100% unavoidable.
    • He keeps referring to the underneath impact point not being highlighted when it is 100% obvious this is how the collision works. It must be the underneath striking!
    • This dishonest person will never concede the absolute obvious, he will obfuscate and divert but will never admit his errors.
    The footage presented has now 100% irrefutably shown that the small segment highlighted must be in a vacuum. It almost certainly must also be in low gravity from the absurdly unnatural way the dust moves. The forum spammer has shot down in flames his own 15 years spammed claim!

    Further, since we now have proven that this sequence is in a vacuum, so must be the footage before and after this section. It's on the Moon.
     
  2. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Scott/cosmored/drifty/fatfreddy/spammer - have you tried the simple experiment? What happened?

    Viewers: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.

    The footage on the Moon showed a pushed shut lid descending and making ZERO frontal air displacement. The spammer cannot explain this, nor why a sideways displacement would occur and none to the front.
     
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    There you go again trying to muddy the waters. When you made posts #205 and #212 you seemed to be thinking that the cover actually made contact with the area where the dust was.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...apollo-landing.519410/page-12#post-1072155977

    It seems that you hadn't noticed that the cover came to a stop before it got that far. When I pointed out that it didn't fall far enough to impact the area where the dust was, you realized you'd made a big mistake by saying the impact of the cover on the area where the dust was caused the dust to shoot out. The cover came to a stop because something inside hit the underside of the top of the cover. The outside lip didn't reach the area where the dust was. You were in a pickle because your explanations were based on the idea that the outside lip impacted that area. Then you started to try to muddy the waters to make it look like you knew the outside lip didn't make contact with the area where the dust was all along.

    All the viewers who take the time to look at the debate starting on page #9 can see this. You know it was air as well as the hoax-believers do. You must feel guilty working for the dark side. I couldn't do it no matter how much money they offered me.

    I know you'll never admit defeat but it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is your success rate. I'd say it's pretty low as the viewers are also reading the other threads. My only goal here is to lower you success rate. I don't care whether you admit defeat or not. There's really not much sense in my continuing to talk to you as it's clear that you don't even believe your own arguments.
     
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  4. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Neither of those posts muddy any waters and once again what anything "seems like" to an ignorant troll are irrelevant.

    The suppositions of a cornered clown. All your diversionary crap is irrelevant and wrong. At no point did I think any of the things that "seemed" to you and none of it makes one iota of difference to the main issue that you fail to address.

    The ramblings of a troll. You are not the voice for the viewers and honest people who have experienced life, know what drafts are.

    You work for the moron side.

    Hey Scott/cosmored/drifty/fatfreddy/spammer - have you tried the simple experiment? What happened?

    For TROLLS: A very simple experiment. Hold one hand level and bring the other arm with flat hand down, perpendicular to the first hand. Notice quite obviously that air is moved (do it faster, like the falling box lid - quite a hefty wave of air is displaced). Now do it sideways on - you will barely feel anything.

    The footage on the Moon showed a pushed shut lid descending and making ZERO frontal air displacement. The spammer cannot explain this, nor why a sideways displacement would occur and none to the front.
     

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