PROSECUTOR TO DROP CHARGES AGAINST TEXAS WOMAN OVER HER ABORTION

https://www.thecut.com/2022/04/texas-woman-charged-with-murder-for-an-alleged-abortion.html

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Questions persist about Herrera’s arrest.
There are many aspects of Herrera’s indictment and arrest that have raised eyebrows. For example, the Texas penal code states that pregnant people cannot be charged with murder in connection with “the death of an unborn child,” per The New York Times. So why was Herrera’s case brought before a grand jury in the first place? And how did this case make it this far? What was Herrera actually charged with? As Lynn Paltrow, the executive director of National Advocates for Pregnant Women, told The AP, “There is no statute in Texas that, even on its face, authorizes the arrest of a woman for a self-managed abortion.” Finally, under what grounds or circumstances did the hospital report Herrera to the local Sheriff’s Department?

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https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pr...nst-texas-woman-over-her-abortion-2022-04-10/


Odd story. Regardless of the recently passed Texas law that permits for civil penalties, in cases of abortion, beyond 6 weeks of pregnancy, Texas women still have their Constitutional, federal right to an abortion, under the Roe v. Wade ruling. And there is no Texas law, allowing for a murder charge, against a mother, for the abortion of her fetus (which was apparently the charge). So the question is why she was arrested, in the first place. And why did the D.A. convene a grand jury and get approval to charge the woman, something not in the Texas criminal code? I smell politics, at play, here. Even though the prosecutor is now going to drop the charges, it was still shameful, to put the woman through this, in order simply to advance somebody's career, or possibly also, to intimidate other Texas women.

 

what gets me is the Hospital reported her, the cops arrested her, she had a 1\2 million dollar bail

the DA finally dropped charges, but wow

""In reviewing applicable Texas law, it is clear that Ms. Herrera cannot and should not be prosecuted for the allegation against her," Ramirez said in a statement."

""She miscarried at a hospital and allegedly confided to hospital staff that she had attempted to induce her own abortion and she was reported to the authorities by hospital administration or staff," Rickie Gonzalez, the group's founder, said on Saturday."

 

I guess all the stereotypes about them playing fast & loose with the law, down in Texas, must have some truth to them. Maybe Texas's nickname should be, "the political oligarch state."

 

Abortion is murder. Period.

 

nope it's not

 

From the first article:

It's apparently clown-world at thecut.com. Elsewhere I saw women described as "people capable of becoming pregnant". I suspect it won't be long until the National Advocates for Pregnant Women officially changes their name to "National Advocates for People Capable of Becoming Pregnant" or some nonsense like that, to stay in the good graces of nutjob progressives.

 

Relative to the Texas Department of Public Safety-- which is what I believe they call law enforcement, speaking of less than direct ways of stating things-- and the prosecutor, and the judge who allowed the prosecutor to use the court for a grand jury indictment on a charge that does not even appear in the Texas penal code, I would say your complaint about politically correct language, is pretty trivial, don't you think?

 

Personally, no, I don't think so. The nutjob progressive perversion of language is sinister. It's doing real harm to the American people and culture (much more significant harm, IMHO, than a potentially-overzealous prosecutor).

As for Herrera and her weekend in jail, I think our country's position on abortion the last five or so decades is abhorrent and evil. It's easily the worst (most barbaric, hideous, awful, cruel, etc) thing America has ever done. If some woman spending a weekend in jail for killing her baby gives others pause before they kill their unborn children, that's a net positive from my perspective.

 

I hope she sues the pants off everyone involved

 

if she can keep her own on long enough

 

yep, the hospital too

 

Yah because only sluts get pregnant right?

 

Sue the prosecutor? For dismissing the charges? Good luck. Maybe do some reading up on how the phrase "absolute immunity" applies to this situation.

 

So is artificial insemination (per your rules). Congratulations on being part of the problem.

 

Sue the hospital, the cops and whoever tried to indict her without a crime

 

That’s kind of a mouthful. They could probably just say People instead. NAPP has a nice ring to it.

 

Real harm, you say? I’d be interested in some details.

 

You want to jail people who didn’t break the law to send a message? Wow

 

I think he’s having a Joker moment.

 

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say "[ I ] want to", but I can see the potential upside to it in discouraging abortions, and I'm certainly not about to lift a finger or spend a dime to stop it. And if you think that attitude is uncivilized, I'd point out that it's an attitude I developed mostly while listening to leftists cry out for Kyle Rittenhouse to be jailed in spite of his perfectly lawful self-defense so you can just skip the pearl clutching.

 

Hard to know what to say, to someone who doesn't believe in our democratic system, or its system of laws, if he disagrees with them. You realize that, if it's OK, in your book, for someone to spend time in jail, unjustly-- not due to an honest mistake, but just because it serves the purpose of someone in power-- then you would have no basis for complaint, if you were mistreated by police or the courts, provided that any random citizen agreed with the message that your incarceration was intended to send.

Everyone deciding the law for themselves, is called Anarchy, & if you think things have been bad under our current system, you would find that you had actually had no idea what a real s¢hit-$how was, before living under an anarchic system.

Spoken like someone who's never been falsely arrested.


I will 2nd Dave BN's sentiment, that it would be interesting to know what sinister things you attribute to progressive language, that makes it so easy for you to slough off, someone's false jailing.

 

I dont believe that life begins at conception, nor do many others. And I dont feel as though people with your opinion should have ANY say in anyone elses health care and family planning desicions.

If you do, then answer this.

There is a fire in a fertility clinic. In one side, is a small fridge filled with hundreds of fertilized eggs. On the other side, is a live baby.

You can only save one.

which one would it be?

If you think life begins at conception, your only true answer would be to leave the live baby, and save the eggs. Because that would be saving the most lives possible.

 

so you think its okay to jail people for doing NOTHING ILLEGAL, to send a "message"?

Thats a very sick and twisted way to look at justice.

 

In today's litigious environment it's hard to imagine there won't be a lawsuit, But, are we even sure this wasn't a setup to provoke just such a confrontation?

 

Not in Texas...