Putin says battle for Bakhmut is over, thanks Wagner mercenaries and Russian army

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  1. Same Issues

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    After a long battle, much of it building to building and block to block, Russia has captured Bakhmut (now Artyomovsk).

    Ukrainian counteroffensive still delayed due to a variety of reasons. Its good to be prepared, but gives Russia even further time to fortify their line which they have been doing heavily in southern Ukraine.

     
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    I reckon one contributing factor to the "counteroffensive" is that a boatload of ammo was taken out a few weeks ago by Russian missiles.

    The Pentagon Choir will deny that happened of course....
     
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    Ukraine still denies the claims and say they have forces in Bakhmut/Artyomovsk. Not seeing any war map makers making this claim, or having the city being encircled or partially encircled by Ukrainian forces.

    Statement from Biden on the situation,its in Japan so he invoked comparisons to Hiroshima's devastation from the bomb where the conference is being held. Claims Russian losses are 100k in the battle to take the city.

     
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    To all those PF members who like Zelenski, DENY present Reality that Bakhmut
    ....................................................................................................................................... has fallen

    Sometimes the Facts on the ground that we know as Reality can be a bitch can't they
    However: -- To deny Reality is a decidedly, deluded and very STUPID survival technique
    For: -- If YOU deny reality, and do not allow YOURSELF to perceive reality then Reality
    ................................................................................................................................. will SPIT on YOU .

    The Facts are these: --- Arttyomovsk, formerly, & AKA Bakhmut has fallen to Russian forces
    And -- Russian attacks, and crafty tactical withdrawals, North and South of Artyomovst have drawn
    Ukrainians into Open fields where they are (as we speak) are being chewed up by Russian Artillery

    Now YOU can accept Reality as it irrevocably exists - OR YOU can deny IT and EXPOSE YOUR
    ................................... delusional, insane - pants down - hair on fire - thought processes for all to see.



    Take a
    History Lesson from the former spiritual inspiration of the Ukrainian AZOV battalion
    HE DENIED REALITY



    Reality is scary - Deal With It ! -- For to deny IT -- is a decidedly poor survival technique
     
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    I expect that we'll hear that it was never important anyway, and wasn't strategically significant.

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    Bakhmut is a key strategic city geographically for Donetsk, Luhansk, Severodonetsk, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. It's located in the middle of the field. If Ukraine fails in Bakhmut, the spring offensive is done.
     
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    Anyone who doesn't turn a blind eye to reality is a "Russia lover"...lol
     
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    NATO has 30 times the GDP of Russia and back then 30 times as many countries, plus the whole of the rest of the World is on our side.

    So given the hot war started when the US artillery arrived near Donetsk on Feb 16th 2022, and the war in Ukraine would be expected to last 3 weeks at the most, if Russia did not immediately capitulate,

    we can safely put in the diary the war ended by or before March 9 2022.

    Unless somebody is doing a lot of lying...
     
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    Cool. Great pile of rubble Russians got chopped up for.

    What’s Russias offensive capacity right now? Virtually zero?

    Do they even have the energy to rape properly? How sad.

     
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    No city to save really....only a handful stayed.

    Makes a point of what orcs do.

    Sounds like UAF have surrounded the city on its flanks.....and as usual RuZZfascista gathered in a "centralized " position. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Myopic concentration of stupidity.
     
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    Sounds like you've been listening to the media.
     
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    Sounds like you’ve been listening to whatever you make up in your head
     
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    Actually, that's Putler's precessor, the fella who conducted the exact same kind of war for the exact same BS reasons.

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    But now the fascist dictator is the former Soviet and is pretending that the enemy is fascist rather than Communist.

    And morons allow themselves to be duped into believing it.
     
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    What if Russia has to go to war with a real army now, say like China or NATO? In a situation like that I could see the Wagner Group switching sides and going after Putin themselves.
     
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    Bakhmut served its intended purpose, grinding down the orcs and fixing them in place while Ukraine builds up its forces. Now Russia occupies a medium-sized city that's literally been reduced to rubble. Bakhmut, in the lowlands, faces open fields to the west, overlooked by high ground that Ukraine occupies. There's no hope of Russia advancing in that direction, and if a Russian shows their head in western Bakhmut, Ukrainian artillery will remove that head.
     
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    Ukraine has 7,056,742 fighting age males. Russia has 33,098,306. Those numbers are from 2009, but it illustrates how wide the gap is between each country's manpower resources. Russia can absorb way more casualties than Ukraine can.
     
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    Russia is on its way to breakup....process has already begun.

    Good luck with those #s.
     
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  20. Reality

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    Except they're more likely to just throw putler to the wolves than fight a war to the knife.
     
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    Jolly good thing they aren’t lining up in neat colorful rows and shooting each other equally then huh?
     
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    One hopes that you are correct.
     
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    Let it be as you have written.
     
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    BBC is reporting Freedom of Russia Legion's raid was defeated.

     

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