Qatar row: Saudi and Egypt among countries to cut Doha links

But you would complain if the US put Central Command in Israel and just used Israel as the country to work out of, Right? Wouldn't there be cries of discrimination against Arabs if that was done. Can't you hear the whining and crying already starting to surface up just for saying that.

I have no problem putting Lebanon on that list. Trump should also stop any arms deals that BO peep set up, to Lebanon.

So which country in that Region wouldn't be a hypocrisy for the US to play out of?

 

Ehm.. no, you are wrong! Terror acts in France, Argentina and Bulgaria were done by Hezbollah!

And that justifies the support of the terrorists in the end?
If any country less important to the US were to do the same, the government would have already been abolished by the CIA.

 

Qatar: the Colonial Era: 1830-1971

The rise of Qatar parallels the rise of the ruling al- Thani family, which emerged from among numerous competing elements in 19th century Qatari society to become the dominant, dynastic political entity. This was done with the solicited assistance of the British, who, though they did not colonize Qatar as such, had a hegemonic and stabilizing presence in the Gulf between the years of 1820 and 1971.

Modern Qatar is therefore a product of the collaboration between shrewd al- Thani emirs and British naval officers who sought the pacification and cooperation of coastal tribes in order to clear naval routes to India. The flexibility of Qatari foreign policy is a consequence of al-Thani political strategy, which maintains power through diplomacy as leaders negotiate with and leverage others’ competing territorial and strategic interests in the peninsula.

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https://rlp.hds.harvard.edu/colonial-era-1820-1968

 

Are you sure those terror acts were Hezbollah?

 

Not so wealthy Marge. Saudis were just able to BUY some time from the US for prolonging their regime. Globalists who are backing the Saudis want the entire ME having PRESIDENTIAL SYSTEMS similar to that of the US. So Saudis were sooner or later going to be on the hook. They finally agreed to pay tribute of 480 billion dollars to the deep United States in exchange of enduring their kingdom the way it's always been. Qatar on the other hand found it ridiculous to pay that much of a tribute as Emir Temim bin Hamd Ali Sani thinks Qatar should be subjected to pay less due to the area and population it has are much less in size compared to Saudis. Emir Ali Sani also believes that his country is little more opened up to global terms than Saudi Arabia and that thinks was not born to be one of the best puppies of the Sammy. He says he got 24 trillion m3 of natural gas reserves, making Qatar the 3rd largest gas reserve on the planet after Russia and Iran. So he thinks keeping doors open to Iran and Russia would make Qatar one of the price determinants which is strategically crucial for not facing a manipulated price regimes as we have been witnessing with oil market.

Qatar is rich but since it has a lot of investments beyond its borders it needs to make rational decisions. Paying tribute to the United States like good puppy Saudis did gives a strong message to Eurasia that Qatar is not considering to be a part of the gas producers bloc.

And Marge you should always keep in mind that economic agreements have much deeper meanings than what's seen on the surface. Because you just can't separate economy from politics in geopolitical reality. Once you get close to a bloc economically you also get close to it politically. So that's why QNA got hacked to make Ali Sani seem as tho he talked sh.it about Trump and the Riyadh meeting despite Doha denied any such statement was made by him in person. This was used as an excuse for starting a dark propaganda against Qatar. Remember when Erdogan was hit by Russian dark propaganda when he was sided with CIA trojan horse FETO and let them shoot down the SU24? Now Americans doing the same to a guy who has a potential to change course. They learn quick Marge.

 

Meh......the Qataris will end up honoring the Saud again just like they always do. Do a little bending ova and kissing that Saudi ass, and all will be forgotten by the Saud.

 

I posted the names of the men funding various terror groups two days ago.. This isn't about Iran.

 

This has been off and on for many decades.. mostly off. Do you know why?

 

Wow wow wow. Qatar is an ally. Aren't people reading MMCs posts? I smell a rat.

A big fat bloated wahhabi rat. Yep the Sauds. The sheer hypocrisy of them condemning Qatar for supporting extremists when they admit to doing the same thing? Haha Oi.

Stop thinking any of those countries care about less terrorism. They use extremists like we do a plunger on a stopped up sink.

This is interesting though what are they up too? The real reason?

As far as the OP. since it was made to slander our POTUS and has already been destroyed nothing to talk about.

 

You mean outside of the MB?

 

Libyan militias, Boko Haram, Taliban, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah and ISIS

The link will show you WHO is funding them from Qatar.....

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-libyan-terrorist-groups-since-2011.506445/

 

Catch up..

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...or-libyan-terrorist-groups-since-2011.506445/

 

Oh Marge... I know how hard it is to analyze data when it's flowing from MSM. I used to be like you when I was younger but then things have changed.

5.8.2017... O-oh.. That's last month but what's that date supposed to mean? I bet you have no idea. That's when Mr ZARIF of Iran visited Doha. What did he do there Marge? Who did he meet with other than Qatari officials? Could that be Halit Meshal???? What did they talk about? Who jammed CIA during the meeting?

Enough for now I guess

 

This history may help you connect the dots.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...erhood-against-nasser.506609/#post-1067577084



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Yep the Saud did finally admit to it. But we are suppose to believe they have stopped. Even Jose says no way.


On my most recent trip to Saudi Arabia, I was greeted with a startling confession. In the past, when we raised the issue of funding Islamic extremists with the Saudis, all we got were denials. This time, in the course of meetings with King Salman, Crown Prince Nayef, Deputy Crown Mohammad Bin Salman and several ministers, one top Saudi official admitted to me, “We misled you.” He explained that Saudi support for Islamic extremism started in the early 1960s as a counter to Nasserism—the socialist political ideology that came out of the thinking of Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser—which threatened Saudi Arabia and led to war between the two countries along the Yemen border. This tactic allowed them to successfully contain Nasserism, and the Saudis concluded that Islamism could be a powerful tool with broader utility.

Under their new and unprecedented policy of honesty, the Saudi leadership also explained to me that their support for extremism was a way of resisting the Soviet Union, often in cooperation with the United States, in places like Afghanistan in the 1980s. In this application too, they argued, it proved successful. Later it was deployed against Iranian-supported Shiite movements in the geopolitical competition between the two countries.

But over time, the Saudis say, their support for extremism turned on them, metastasizing into a serious threat to the Kingdom and to the West. They had created a monster that had begun to devour them. “We did not own up to it after 9/11 because we feared you would abandon or treat us as the enemy,” the Saudi senior official conceded. “And we were in denial.”

Why this new frankness? First, it’s fair to ask how far the new policy really goes. Clearly, there are some questions about whether some extremist Sunni groups, such as al-Nusra in Syria, are still getting Saudi money. But as the Saudis described it to me, this new approach to grappling with their past is part of the leadership’s effort to make a new future for their country, including a broad-based economic reform program......snip~

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/saudi-arabia-terrorism-funding-214241


Saudi Arabia funds and exports Islamic extremism: The truth behind the toxic U.S. relationship with the theocratic monarchy.....

“Everybody’s worried about stopping terrorism. Well, there’s a really easy way: stop participating in it.” So advised world-renowned public intellectual Noam Chomsky, one of the most cited thinkers in human history.



The counsel may sound simple and intuitive — that’s because it is. But when it comes to Saudi Arabia, the U.S. ignores it.

Saudi Arabia is the world’s leading sponsor of Islamic extremism. It is also a close U.S. ally. This contradiction, although responsible for a lot of human suffering, is frequently ignored. Yet it recently plunged back into the limelight with the Saudi monarchy’s largest mass execution in decades......snip~

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/06/sau..._u_s_relationship_with_the_theocratic_nation/

 

No, I would not be upset, but the Arabs would all be upset and I think a lot of Americans and Jews haters in the USA too! And forum colleague Indofred has summed it up in his signature:

Remember, there were no 'enemies of America' in the Middle East until Israel became your pimp

And so we come to the question, why many Arabs and others in ME hate the US and that is not just because of Israel! If you support the biggest scum and dictators because they are "US friendly" and also actively fight any democratic development against these dictators who are even oriented to the US values, you make many "negative friends"!

As long as the US does not want to change and change it, as long as they fuel the hate for the USA with their multiple hypocrisy!

As for your question ... the answer is: At the moment, every country on the planet where Muslims live!
The Ban places people under a general suspected Islamic terrorist if they are citizens of these countries.
Apart from the fact that a Christian can hardly be an Islamic terrorist and that a single terrorist from all attacks in the US and only a few from the USA come from one of these countries ... and that even without the Ban since 9/11 works well in the US as far as terrorism is concerned ...
An elementary element of the law in the United States is the presumption of innocence until to the proof of guilt! this is over here ... and amazing how many shrug their shoulders about.

 

Snorts. I was in that thread witnessing the usual Saud apologism just like here. You have been on a Qatar rampage lately for one reason only. The Sauds are at odds with them at this time.

Right here folks. A credible source from a very respected former US official to Saudi land. It's a mind blowing article where they really open up about their support of Islamists. I've been saying for a long time they use them as tools. And here they admit it. Read that article please. It's worth the 2 minutes.

“We misled you.” He explained that Saudi support for Islamic extremism started in the early 1960s as a counter to Nasserism—the socialist political ideology that came out of the thinking of Egypt’s Gamal Abdel Nasser—which threatened Saudi Arabia and led to war between the two countries along the Yemen border. This tactic allowed them to successfully contain Nasserism, and the Saudis concluded that Islamism could be a powerful tool with broader utility.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/saudi-arabia-terrorism-funding-214241

So now local leftists lemmings want to bash Qatar and our local Wahhabi Saud apologist is leading the way.

Ima go read up on just what kind of relationship Qatar and Iran have atm and just.. How much money potentially are in those natural gas fields. I suspect alot and the Sauds are terrified of Iran obtaining a huge income boost.

 

A guyy from Afghanistan wrote that..

KSA has always opposed Nasserism, Baathism, the Muslim Brotherhood and the Soviet Union. Their support of rebels end with the Soviet retreat from Afghanistan.

If you learned some history, you would know why, but nobody can force feed it to you.

What "mass executions"?

 

So in reality.....there is no friends amongst the Arabs. Doesn't matter Shia or Sunni. Its a no win situation for the US. But that doesn't mean the US is suppose to drop out of the region and allow the Europeans or Asians to gain control thru any means. Does it?

 

The article is NOT rooted in fact.

Read: the Muslim Brotherhood against Nasserism...

 

Ben Norton of Salon is from Afghanistan? Just where did you get that from?

The one that Ben explained out. But I guess you wont take that feeding from Ben, huh?

 

We do have friends in the ME.. Countries that were never under Colonialism are usually our friends.

 

ZALMAY KHALILZAD wrote the article... and it has NO context.

KSA was NEVER a colony.. and that has made all the difference.

 

It absolutely is fact if it came from your beloved Sauds on mouth. That article literally explains so much of why the Sauds promoted Islamists against everyone.

Months ago I saw the truth and my analogy was the Sauds use Islamists like pit bulls but kept them chained. 9/11 was their pit bull going rabid and slipping the chain.

I actually understand why they did it.


Wanna tell me the source isn't credible?

 

Apart from the fact that many US citizens and many Trump fans like to have deleted any action in the ME of the USA and want to withdraw completely there ...

How would it be easy to start with it and to use the indisputably present power and influence of the USA on the sultans and kings and emirs and whatever and to exert pressure to devote themselves to democratic improvements and values... instead playing the 3 monkey and annoying the Arabs by backing the scum of dictators, eh?