Question On The Limousine Windshield?

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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    The magic bullet theory was created by conspiracy theorists out of pure imagination long after the Warren Commission ended. Therefore it is reasonable that none of the WC members believed it. It is a fictional idea dreamed up by people you are gullible enough to believe.

    A sniper with an opinion is just a person with an opinion and is not evidence.

    The evidence proves you wrong and you know it hence your childish trolling.

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    Yes he was taken to school by me hence his retreat and surrender.
     
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    Many great and many average marksmen have easily been able to duplicate or exceed Oswald's shooting that is fact. The opinions of some others which you cherry pick are meaningless in light of that fact,

    The tree is still there it was never cut down.

    They never found a Mauser. The two who claimed it was a mauser merely mis - identified it and many mausers do look very similar to caracanoss. Mauser rifles DO NOT have the word mauser stamped on them. Try visiting a gun store and looking at one.

    I have facts you have myth.
     
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    The "Magic Bullet" was the invention of future senator and Warren Commission lawyer, Arlen Specter.
    That you would pretend to lecture anyone about the JFK killing and the Warren Commission when you obviously know next to nothing about it (your comments here are proof of that) is hilarious and sad and pathetic all at once.

    Do you really think the Magic Bullet is B.S.? Well that's YOUR Warren Commission in action.



    Is this supposed to be about me?
    Actually I got sick and tired of your extra stupid know nothing posts. You are a colossal waste of time.
     
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    Arlen Spector did not invent the magic bullet theory. Arlen spector did not say the words magic bullet anywhere within the Warren Commission report nor did he describe such a bullet.

    Conspiracy theorists invented it.Which one is unclear although Jim Garrison claims to have coined the term.

    That fact that I know more about it has already been proven in that we have established you never even read the WC report but only a few conspiracy theories which have been debunked and proven false.

    Read this slowly one more time ok?

    THE WARREN COMMISSION NEVER PRODUCED A MAGIC BULLET THEORY.

    Conspiracy theorists did. No magic bullet of any kidn whatsoever is found anywhere within the Warren Commission
     
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    First of all, do you know who Arlen Specter was? http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/no-proof-for-arlen-spectors-magic-bullet-theory/

    Whether Specter ever uttered the words "magic bullet" or not is immaterial and his theories and conjecture are what the magic bullet theory is based on. Once again you are thinking on such a shallow level you really don't make it worth my while to educate you.
     
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    Yes I know who he was attorney and senator, worked as a staff attorney for the Warren Commission.

    The magic Bullet theory is not his theory or conjecture.The Magic bullet theory is that the Warren Commission in general or Spector specifically described a bulelt twisting, turning, zig zagging, some say even pausing in mid air. The theory is that he invented such conjecture and stated it in the WC report. The problem is he never did this. He never said any such thing.He never described any such bullet. He never theorized or described or invented conjecture about any bullet doing anything which could even be remotely considered abnormal.

    The conspiracy theorists dreamed up those lies about Spector and the bullet and most believers such as you are simply to lazy to fact check this claim and find that it is a lie. It is easy to fact check by simply reading the report and what he explained.

    You cannot educate me because you are ignorant of these facts. Apparently you cannot be educated because you refuse to address afcts even though I have given them to you.
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-bullet_theory
    The theory, generally credited to Warren Commission staffer Arlen Specter (later a United States Senator from Pennsylvania), posits that a single bullet, known as "Warren Commission Exhibit 399" (also known as "CE 399"), caused all the wounds to the governor and the non-fatal wounds to the president (seven entry/exit wounds in total).
    Staff lawyer Norman Redlich indeed credits Specter, along with himself and three other lawyers for "simultaneously" coming up
    with this concept of the magic bullet...an incredible claim almost as fantastic as the path of the bullet itself.

    Remarkable considering the bullet found on the gurney near John Connally was found perfectly intact and without any markings or blood or clothing fiber one would expect from a bullet that just tore through two men (supposedly).

    The bullet was found on a gurney in the corridor at the Parkland Memorial Hospital, in Dallas, after the assassination. The Warren Commission found that this gurney was the one that had borne Governor Connally.[3] This bullet became a key Commission exhibit, identified as CE 399. Its copper jacket was completely intact. While the bullet's nose appeared normal, the tail was compressed laterally on one side.
     
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    The key word is GENERALLY.

    He is generally considered to be the creator of the magic bullet theory because gullible people such as you generally listen to what others say about him rather than reading what HE SAID.

    A bullet passing through to men is not magical. Many examples of this exist in the centuries that guns have been used. The Nazis even experimented on living subjects firing bullets through multiple people. Hanging the term MAGICAL on such a bullet is precisely the lie generated by conspiracy theorists and swallowed by the naive.

    The bullet was never found perfectly intact which is yet another myth and lie which conspiracy buffs fall for. The back end was compressed and damaged and significant pieces of mass were missing from the bullet. Nothing about this is abnormal or magical.


    Here is a lesson for you. Bullets of every description are exhaustively tested over and over and their performance documented and recorded. This information is of special interest to competitive shooters and military technicians. The type of ammo used by Oswald was no exception. CE399 belongs to a make and manufacturers lot of ammo which was well documented to be a tumbler. This was documented ong BEFORE Kennedy's assassination. A tumbler bullet will begin tumbling end over end after striking something ( such as a body like kennedy's body ) It therefore follows that the most significant damage would NOT be located on the nose or tip of the bullet but elsewhere on the bullets structure. ( like the back end ). It passed through Kennedy without striking any bone but instread soft tissue and fabric. Only upon exiting connally did it strike a rib and then a wrist bone.

    Nothing magical about the damage to the bullet and nothign unusual or magical about the wounds it inflicted.

    Hence the absolute proven lie about the MAGIC bullet theory dreamed up by conspiracy theorists and NOT in any way invented by spector
     
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    The bullet did not go through the windshield and enter his throat.

    It exited Kennedy and hit the windshield
     
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    You are seeming to suggest an official document admits a bullet hole. If so, post the link. Of course there was a bullet hole in it, but I was always under the impression that that was officially being denied.

    JFK ASSASSINATION: THE FRONT SHOT: THE ENTRANCE HOLE IN THE WINDSHIELD: The WITNESSES

    As the limousine is parked at the hospital, five people there examine what is later to be described as a bullet hole in the front windshield of the car.

    1) Dallas Police Officer H. R. Freeman will note: “I was right beside it. I could have touched it. It was a bullet hole. You could tell what it was

    2) Dallas Police Officer Stavis Ellis remarks, “You could put a pencil through it.” A Secret Service agent tries to persuade Ellis that what he is seeing is a “fragment” and not a hole. Mr. Ellis is adamant: “It wasn’t a damn fragment. It was a hole
     
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    Come back, poor boy. You seemed like a decent guy.

    Altgens 6 is entirely different from the crack photo. That's the beginning. If A6 was not a bullet hole then they wouldn't have provided a different image to replace it.

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