No actually there is no need what so ever to answer someone who is standing chin deep in (*)(*)(*)(*) and asks "what (*)(*)(*)(*)"? Thats the point where I start laughing.
And what is that supposed to be? I mean, I get the one of the plane coming through the towers, but...what's up with that? Do you mind sourcing that?
so you have no clue what you are looking at then if you get the other one this one should fall right into place If it does not then you did not get the other one and certainly cannot get this one.
I see that it is firing something out of the nosecone into the WTC. I ask you again though, can you source the clip? Please.
That clip is when they graduated from the bird to a shadow plane Sure but I have no intention of digging through thousands of archives to do it lol That has been around for nearly 10 years "Firing" something is a red herring, look closer. There are at a minim 20 conclusions that can be drawn from that Comparatively it shows very conclusively exactly what took place at least to a trained eye.
I dont smoke I would say that anyone can see that is or was edited in from a bird, but then I would not want to underestimate the stupidity of americans. .
I'm still waiting for Koko to explain the technology involved to put said CGI into every privately owned video camera that recorded Flight 175 hitting the South Tower. Truther fail can't recognize fail.
theres clips out there with no plane at all. again I do not plan on spending hours digging through archives looking for it. besides its so much more fun to show the fraud and watch all the troughers squirm.
The ONLY reason there are videos out there that show no plane,is that the cameras were pointed somewhere else,and you're STILL using 'troughers' wrong.
I'm still waiting for Koko to explain the technology involved to put said CGI into every privately owned video camera that recorded Flight 175 hitting the South Tower. Truther fail can't recognize fail. If there actually were a video with a good angle that didn't show a plane, it would have made the news years ago because it would be EVIDENCE truthtards are right. Koko pretending some video is out there but he is just too busy to look only highlights the fact he has nothing, knows he has nothing, and is desperately hoping nobody will notice.
I already answered that. Standing on a soap box ranting will only score demerits after what I posted. Troughers dont need to prove anything, their proof is that a trougher said so. Worse they expect others to prove their foolish malframed scenarios as if they have any relevance.
You're right. We expect patently dishonest truthers to prove their foolish, malframed scenarios. What is wrong with that? What is wrong with demanding an individual back up their claims, especially when they are talking about treason and rising up against the government which is what every truther who believes the government was behind 9/11 is ultimately demanding people to do. Yet all we get are petty thugs who can't seem to find the videos, can't be bothered with the evidence, like to hide behind their (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up definition of evidence or any one of a number of other excuses. So lets see what we have: We have tens of thousands of people who saw the second plane hit the building. We have numerous videos of the plane hitting the building. We have the radar tracks of the planes ending at the building. We have people who saw the plane hit the building WHO WERE IN THE BUILDING at the time. We have the seismic evidence of the planes hitting the buildings. We have the fact neither Flight 11 nor Flight 175 was ever found. We have the fact DNA evidence was found in the towers of some of the passengers and crew of both Flight 11 and Flight 175. We have the fact parts from the planes made it THROUGH the buildings to land on the streets below. So what do truthers have? Koko pretending it was just a bird. Here is a bird for you, Koko. Is that what hit the towers?
Awe dont get mad at me because we can see the bigga badda booma in plain view. Do a better job of policing and hiding it next time. isnt that something the way all that bs just comes right back around to bite ya! Oh is this one clear enough for ya all? LMAO
Your faked GIFs with the enhanced "explosions" aren't fooling anyone. BTW, we're talking about your completely retarded claim that no planes hit the buildings. I gave you the evidence for. Still waiting for you to actually produce real evidence against. Of course, we both know you don't have (*)(*)(*)(*). It is the truther way!
So what are your qualifications for claiming to know how a building should fall and what caused the collapse? Did you bother checking with the true experts? Did you read the studies done by other engineering firms and universities where they came to the conclusion the fires themselves were enough to bring down the towers? Or did you find the nearest conspiracy site and swallow whole whatever they fed you without bothering to check the facts? Once again you are wrong. Proven wrong by the evidence. They didn't test WTC 7 for explosives because there were numerous cameras with audio that were near WTC 7. NOT ONE of them recorded anything even close to what one would hear if explosives had gone off. I've explained that to you before. I believe I even posted the video. Yet here you are blatantly lying your ass off about all evidence being from the government. As for "authority figures" recording explosions, where are these recordings? You may be smart and you may be able to figure things out, but your incessant need to blame the government and your willingness to completely dismiss massive amounts of evidence in order to keep your beliefs alive make me wonder about the root cause. Have you discussed these issues you have with the government and your need to alter reality to blame the government with your therapist? You weren't insulting me by blatantly lying about what I believe even after I have patiently explained it to you numerous times? Wow. Maybe you need to learn what an insult is. As for my research, I looked at the claims by truthers at the time and found serious issues with their conclusions. I have a strong background in the sciences and I knew some of what they were claiming sounded right to the average person but were still highly inaccurate. Things like the plane shouldn't have been able to puncture the steel reinforced concrete or that it had to be a missile. Things like eyewitness accounts not adding up to what the truthers were saying. Things like common sense. An attack by 19 determined hijackers attacking us in a way we weren't expecting is a HELL of a lot easier than faking 19 hijackers, faking planes hitting the towers, using controlled demolitions, faking the Shanksville crash, faking the pentagon and then covering everything up perfectly. Congratulations. The book has been out for years. It has been used as the basis for speculation by truthers, but nothing more. And it absolutely says what I claimed; 9/11 was carried out by 19 hijackers. It says NOTHING about the government knowing about it. Don't you think if that was one of the points in the book that it would.... oh.... be worthy of it's own chapter or at least mentioning? You are absolutely lying. Just because you make a retarded thread where you try and pretend your hatred for the military justifes blaming 9/11 on the government doesn't mean people have to respond to it. There are levels of stupid so vast that I won't touch them. What does that mean? It means you made a retarded thread. Nothing more. You claim to know me and judge me, yet what I write directly refutes your claim. To me, that is knowingly and willingly lying. It isn't my problem you look down on everyone that doesn't agree with you. It isn't my problem that you refuse to see the truth when you are presented evidence you can't refute nor can you produce evidence that backs up you lies. Those are your problems. I will, however, call you on your lies when you make them. BTW, did you ever come up with more evidence other than your speculation over "a clean break"? No? Imagine that. I am suppose to believe and TRUST a known, proven liar over common sense and a complete lack of evidence. Hmmm. Does that sound smart t Why are you pretending "A clean break" is the sum total of your claims about 9/11? A clean break isn't a lie. You pretending it is proof the government was behind 9/11 despite the fact you have no real evidence is a lie. As for you thinking this is all a game, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. When one steps back and realizes the significance and magnitude of what truthers routinely ask others to believe, one has to either be stupid enough to think this is a game, or evil enough to foment rebellion based on known lies. Pick the right truth to defend? There is only one truth. I have asked you repeatedly to present real evidence your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) lies are real and truthful and YOU CAN'T. You knowingly lie about 9/11 in a misguided effort to overthrow the US government because you're not brave enough or strong enough to do it the right way. By defending the truth I lay the blame of 9/11 where it belongs. You wish to pretend Al Qaeda is innocent in order to blame the government. If you want to see me exposing your attempts at getting Al Qaeda off the hook in order for your to pursue your agenda against the government as defending the government, fine. The truth, however, is that I am still just defending the truth, not the government.
Part 2 No. You haven't. You've presented opinion and outright lies which I was able to clearly refute. You could not address the teardown of your evidence and responded with pathetic one or two word responses. I am sure the irony of you whining about criticism and then turning around claiming others can't handle criticism is lost on you. That is a good one though! Thanks for the laugh! As for my statement, your claims bear out exactly what I said. Is it rational to ignore real evidence in order to pursue an agenda? No. That is decidedly irrational. You freely admit to your dislike of the government and everything it stands for, and most of your reasoning is based on blaming the government for 9/11, so how is what I said wrong? Yes. I do. Why? Because I have the truth on my side. You've made all kinds of bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims, NONE of which you can back up. You insist on lying your ass off about the truth and others, which I call you on and demonstrate. So yeah. Real mature there, Jango. Yet where have I ever stated anything about patriotism? Where have I ever said the government wouldn't do these things? I haven't. Once again your overwhelming irrational hatred blinds you to the truth and you end up lying about others. I have presented the facts. I have backed these facts up with evidence. I have taken your claims apart and you couldn't respond. You're nothing but a sore loser. I have looked at this objectively. A shame you can't say the same. You still insist on pretending there is a real connection without pulling your head out of your ass long enough to realize it is only your opinion and not fact. Instead of addressing that fact, you pretend the insults have hurt your poor sensibilities to the point you cannot respond. Yes. More of the same of you running from the truth. Notice how you can't actually refute what I said. You can't present real evidence linking the PNAC with the events of 9/11 because it is based on pure speculation and NOT evidence. So keep running. It should be apparent to everyone that you know you've been beat and are now making excuses for not being able to address the truth. "A clean break" shows the government was behind 9/11 in order to give us a reason to go to war. If you want the complete list of lies you've told, please go back and re-read all your posts and my responses. They are detailed there. I just made observations about truthers and liberals. I was not talking about you specifically. I was addressing what you wrote. If you take offense at the response, maybe you should look to the reason you are offended. Is it because I correctly pointed out that foreign policy follows the leanings of the President? Is it because I showed a major flaw in the liberal truther lies that this is all a conservative conspiracy? Why all butthurt now? All I have to go from is what you write. I've shown where you lied and I proved they were lies. I have also shown where you have a very black and white view of the world. Instead of addressing it, you get butthurt over the criticism. I'm still laughing at you whining about criticism while pretending I sound like other guys you know. Do you know what a hypocrite is? Maybe you should look it up.
All I see from you is criticism towards conservatives. Just wanted to know the extent of your bias. I can see it is firmly entrenched. Really? Obama signed on for the PNAC? Got anything to back up that whopper of a lie?
