Questions For Those Who Believe Homosexuality Is A Chosen Behavior

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Just to remind everyone what johnny is defending as "the truth"

    A stupid question based upon an incorrect assumption. As always void of even a shred of substance relative to the topic of discussion.
     
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    Do you know/believe homosexuality is chosen? (When you answer, please show the best support you have for your answer.)

    How so?

    (See my question above.)
     
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    My main point is simply that reality doesn't fall lock-step into your perception of it. That's all.
     
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    Actually it does. Science hasnt yet evolved to a point where two people of the same sex can procreate. Its a physical impossiblity. Has nothing to do with my perception. You just cant see it because your perception is so clouded by ideology. Seems the norm among homosexuals, when it comes to such matters.
     
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    So what (as far as this topic goes)?

    Do people choose their sexual-orientation or not?

    Do people choose their sexual-orientation or not?
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    LOLOLOL!!! Typical. Denial, denial, denial, and then if that doesnt work, try "so what"

    Probably more frequently than not in a free society. Such a concept didnt even exist a couple 100 years ago. Your attraction to the same gender was no more an intrinsic part of an individual than a preference for blue over red.
     
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    Okay, if you must believe that is so.

    Well, your opinion and science just aren't agreeing. Even so, it doesn't matter so much as people would imagine; people who are homosexual will seek equal rights nevertheless. That is, even IF someone could/would 'choose', why should they be treated any differently as others would be?

    Do you know how many other 'concepts' didn't likely exist 200 years ago? (That's ridiculous.)

    You are about as wrong as you can be; there is more to it than what you say.
     
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    What nonsense, There is no such "science"
     
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    Wrong again. Those who have studied and know better, realize and accept that homosexuality (or any particular sexual-orientation) is not 'chosen'.
     
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    There is more to consider than many are led to believe. I thought this was interesting.
     
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    So some gender nonconforming people become homosexual, while other gender nonconforming people do not become homosexual. Just as some Gender conforming people become heterosexual, some do not. This supports my view and tends to refute yours. Outside of some "modest genetic influences", looks like a lot of choices are being made. Sometimes conforming to those influences, other times in contradiction of them.
    I suspect a lot of men have modest genetic influences to become serial rapist, but choose not to do so. I think I have modest genetic influences that lead me to be attracted to 13 yr old girls in bikinis rubbing up against me the other weekend. But I choose not to follow those influences.
     
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    Your conclusion is both biased and ludicrous. Even so, that illustrates somewhat why anyone reading your 'opinion' should surely check out the things you say.

    You have your views on homosexuality, but they are surely not synonymous with scientific evidence/truth.
     
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    Here would be the point you could string together a few words stating why you think its biased and ludicrous. In your view, that would describe pretty much everything I write, so your not really telling us anything.

    but nooooo you would never do that. Back to the generic whiney rant.

    I just used YOUR scientific evidence to make my point.
     
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    At the end of the day you have no clue what is responsible for this wierd phenominon.

    Religious or Tribal tradition or folklore is a powerfull thing that you know nothing about.

    We have been through this before .. quit pretending you have an aptitude for Anthropology.

    If you were to read even just a little of this subject you would find numerous explanations for this type of behaviour.
     
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    I know its not genetics or biology that leads to all Sambia men engaging in bisexual behavior. I know they are not born with it. You seem to not understand this.

    String a few words together and make your point if you can, as opposed to merely referring to it being made somtime in the past.
     
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    I never claimed it was genetics or biology.

    Twice now I given you a plausible explanation (Religious or Tribal Tradition/folklore and beliefs) that does not relate to preference.

    All you had to say was "nonsense" with no material to support your opinion.

    How on earth do you want me to respond to your one word negation with no support.

    I made my point and gave you a plausible, if not likely, explanation. Religious or Tribal Tradition/folklore and beliefs - The third time now I have given yo this explanation.

    I gave you the domain science for that explanation - Anthropology

    The tribal belief is that injesting sperm will make a young male a strong warrior and that women are dangerous to this process.

    Examples of Religion, belief in male superiority, and Tribal tradition/beliefs in your link are as follows:


    Anthropological conclusion:

    Behavioural adaptations as a solution to survival problems.

    In order to ensure survival of the tribe it is important to men to become strong warriors.

    Belief that the sperm contains power is as old as humanity. That some tribe in some hidden jungle would think believe this and develop rituals around it is completely understandable.

    This theory is reinforced by the belief that women are not on the same level as men and even dangerous to mens masculinity and therfor dangerous to the tribe.

    Many early cultures worshiped the life giving power of the female .. these folks believe in the life giving power of the male.

    The idea that you feed the woman lots of sperm, which is then transformed into milk, is completely consistant with the focus on the life giving power of the male.

    There is nothing to suggest "preference" as you suggest and much that supports Religious beliefs and Tribal Tradition/folklore and beliefs
     
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    My bad. You made it sound as if you wanted to disagree with something I said
     
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    Okay, I see the problem. You want to criticize others and make things personal.

    In the final analysis, I'm content to let others judge/check my posts (or opinions) as they will. I don't have to be right about everything here, to enjoy participating in the discussion process.

    I don't see where one chooses their sexual-orientation; you see something else, In due time, better answers will surely emerge.
     
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    As usual, you dont even make any sense.
     
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    No, dixon.

    Try staying closer to the topic please. No one has any use of you constantly critiquing 'me' per se.

    Even so, it makes sense for ANYONE to check the validity of what you claim/believe about "sexual-orientation"; better they do that, than be misled.
     
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    Soooooo string a few words together stating how I have misled anybody, if you can.
     
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    People can read.
     
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    Thats why I suggested you string a few words together, so people could read them.
     
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    Say what you need to say.

    Do you believe that people choose their sexual-orientation? (I'm virtually certain that they do not choose that.)
     
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    Im trying to get you to say ANYTHING other than claiming I am wrong.
     
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