Questions For Those Who Believe Homosexuality Is A Chosen Behavior

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  1. dixon76710

    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, many choose their sexual orientation. Should have been obvious from my previous posts that you, each and every one claimed was wrong, without as much as stringing together a few words to explain why you think they are wrong.



     
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    I doubt that is true; but surely our opinions differ.

    You aren't schooling 'me' per se, and this is not a classroom. dixon, you are posting to the WORLD on this forum; get that through your head now. And when I do respond in the way that I do, I keep that constantly in mind.

    From what I know, what you are generally claiming is incorrect. I gave you 3rd party evidence, but you rejected it because you disagreed with my opinion. I can't do anything about that. My job here is to express my OPINION, not to necessarily find some gem (within the entire realm of knowledge) to change YOUR mind. Remember, there are reasonably credible people here who agree with 'me' also. We won't all agree on this (for now) and that is a reality.

    Stop lying. I've been refuting your commentary for many months. Now, I'm just to the point of disagreeing directly, so that those who come to this forum might be encouraged to CHECK WHAT YOU SAY (and what I say also). I'm open about that, especially in my last few posts.

    Again, I and others have offered you evidence (even reasonable data aligned with relatively current scientific views) about human sexuality and sexual-orientation. If you don't allow the evidence to be admitted into your worldview, then all we can do is disagree. I can say that if this were the 1950's or 1960's, I might agree with you more than now; but this is 2011, and the conclusions you are reaching in all of this, just seem ludicrous to me (and millions of other people).

    And it can all surely be argued-over, a bit too much, which is a point that I think we have generally reached.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    We can now see your asking the question 4 times was pointless, other than to give yourself yet another opportunity to claim you disagree, without as much as stringing a few words together to state why you disagree.
     
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    Yes, I'm just terrible and don't know anything that I'm talking about. Okay. I'm so glad you're sharing here, otherwise... nothing pertinent would ever be shared.
     
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    The actions of the Sambian man have little to do with "preference" and less to do with the fact that homosexuality is not a choice.
     
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    I said the Sambia men were bisexual, not homosexual.
     
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    What does that actually mean, in terms of our society and homosexuality as we define it?
     
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    That tradition and culture have more influence upon human sexuality, than biology ever could.
     
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    What do you mean by "human sexuality" (your definition please)?
     
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    If that were true we would see number of homosexuals decreasing, not increasing.
     
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    The classifications of heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual or pedophile.
     
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    Is the number of homosexuals increasing? Likely because traditional and cultural prohibitions against homosexuality are decreasing. Like I said, tradition and culture have more influence on ones sexuality than biology ever could.
     
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    What was the reason for throwing in "pedophile"?
     
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    Because the APA and your article argue that pedophile is a separate sexual orientation.

     
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    Okay. I was hoping that you weren't saying that homosexuality and pedophilia were somehow related.
     
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    Related in that it is only pedophiles who are attracted to boys that they claim are not homosexuals, and it is never pedophiles who are attracted to girls, that they claim are not heterosexual.
     
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    Huh? I'm trying to make sense of that. Pedophiles are almost ALWAYS heterosexual, whether the attraction is toward boys or girls.
     
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    Because they define all the men attractesd to boys as pedophiles, while all the men attracted to girls are defined as heterosexual. From his article-

    Some studies of prisoners incarcerated for molesting children, found as many as 80% of the men identifying themselves as homosexual or bisexual.
     
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    What a convoluted way of saying 'nothing' sensible.
     
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    That is untrue as far as I know. Why are you saying this; can you show proof?

    Again, show your proof. I have enough reason to believe you are incorrect.
     
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    Ill stick with the quote from your article.

    No qulaifiers, no "ifs", "ands" or "buts". Just the broad declaration of fact that they are not homosexuals.
     
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    Okay.

    What are you getting at? I have no problems with anything in the link I shared.
     
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    Yeah, couple posts back you declared it was "untrue". You are compelled to disagree, except most of the time you dont even know what it is that you are disagreeing with.
     
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    you can choose to not have sex. I can choose to abstain as well. So, if you abstain from sex, what does that make you?

    So yes, there are choices involved.
     
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    I don't see what you're talking about. Can you explain it again, more clearly?
     
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