Real Freedom Fighters in Syria

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  1. johnmayo

    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Is that Dearborn Michigan?
     
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    Just like Russia needed Stalin, just like Cambodia needed Pol Pot, like how Uganda needed Idi Amin...All men who would not hesitate to slaughter their own people in order to be free from facing the ballot box. Just like Assad.
     
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    Lies Lies Lies! Pathetic lies!

    There is a genocide in Syria but only one - committed by foreign jihadis and muslim brotherhood against Moderate Sunnis, Shias, Christians, Assyrians, Druze, Kurds.

    You say a 100,000 killed? Think with you brain how many of them are Syrian Army and Police Personnel. Losses for the security forces + national defense force militias has been 50000+ killed. Half of those 100,000 are Syrian soldiers and police! You have remaining 50,000 dead, how many of them are rebels? At least 35-40000. How many of the remaining 10,000 killed by terrorists in almost daily suicide bombings around the country? I am sure you did not even think about that.

    Rwanda was a genocide where in short time 2 million died on 1 side. When you have 100,000 dead and 50,000 of those are soldiers + police, and most remainder are rebels , there is no genocide.

    Stop. Just stop with your bs.
     
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    Assad is using missiles against cities with his own people. He will tear down every inch of Syria and kill as many as it takes to keep his power, and ineptocracy alive.
     
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    When was the last time Obama and Congress cared about what Americans think? They say no to war in Libya. Obama goes to war. They say don't supply weapons to rebels in Syria. Obama supplies them anyway.
     
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    The Wahabi and Ikhwan pro Morsi's flying Al Qaeda flags at funerals in Sinai today

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    They each cater to their constituents. Obama? That man is a populist with a finger in the air. If anything his fault is he doesn't have any real principles other then big government. Which mirrors his base and the people who voted for him. Americans had a clear choice last election, and they clearly screwed it up, but he does what he says he would do and people voted for the man. Congress as a whole is unpopular because of our free press, but individual congress members are very popular with the people in their district.

    Libya and Syria ticked him up in poll numbers you know. People here support that sort of thing. Should have supported Syria earlier before it was a big mess, but what can you do? If your point is Obama sucks, I agree with you 100%. But here is the thing, he faced the people in an election. I was allowed to talk all the trash I wanted about him, and he didnt do a thing to me. My side tried our best, we lost, and no one had to die. You should tell Assad to try it sometime. He wasn't guaranteed to lose you know.
     
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    Those alleged missile strikes killed 400 people in whole year. That is less than people killed in chicago in 2012.

    Why don't you mention the suicide bombings by your beloved terrorists ONLY in Damascus area that have killed 2000 people in a year

    Why don't you mention that terrorists destroyed my city of Darayya and kicked my family out because we did not support them.
     
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    That is not the figure at all.

    I also campaign against the violence in Democrat cities, you should read my posts on Detroit. I pick on them left and right. Well, left at least.

    All this because Assad really wanted his job...you must hate the guy for letting this happen to your country.

    You are alive. Better then what happens to people found supporting the rebels.

    http://politix.topix.com/img/OFEI74R1PB2VRJSD
     
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    I love Assad. He is the defender of all ordinary Syrians. All my family and relatives hide in areas under protection of Syrian Army. They are the ones defending us from certain death.
    He has support of majority of population. Support for him is growing everyday. Together we will get brutal revenge against the jihadis and their cockroach sympathizers.
     
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    What's the number then of people killed by missiles? How many of them are terrorists? Most don't wear military uniforms so they automatically are counted as civilians.

    Here are your beloved terrorists torturing on video.

    [video=youtube_share;3IDTMNpTLs4]http://youtu.be/3IDTMNpTLs4[/video]
     
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    You seem to forget I don't support jihadis. I think Assad should have gotten off his high horse, faced his people at the ballot box, (instead of forcing a civil war), and ended it. He can do that now I bet, but that conversation is a non starter for him. It must be dictatorship, or let Syria burn with him. So I don't support him either. Want me to pick on jihadis? That is fine, I will pick on them. A barbarous people that seek to force a strange mix of socialism and religious fanaticism with political force that is reminiscent of what fascists before them had to do to get power, except the dictators in their countries are better matches then the Germans or Italian governments were. There you go, the ad hitlerum attack, the worst comparison you can make on the Internet, and a fulfillment of Godwin's law.

    So why do you think it is a good idea for Syria to burn rather then have free elections?

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    Why do you think Assad is worth all this trouble? Why not vote on who should be the leader, is it because you think Assad would have lost?
     
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    You are Syrian? An islamo country. So, forgive me if I do not believe you.
     
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    I am telling you Assad has support of most Syrian people. This has been confirmed even by Western sources. The problem is that the West has it's mind made up because he is friends with Iran. No matter what he does, they wont accept it. Why focus on him? He is flawed but best option for Syria. In Syria anyone could practice their religion openly and freely. There were 400 churches freely operating in Syria. There was even a huge synagogue in Damascus that Assad ordered be restored and protected. Sunnis and Alawites and Christians got along just fine. I had many Christian and Alawite friends. Never any conflicts or issues regarding religion. I am Sunni, nobody oppressed me and discrimination against me. It is all an invention in peoples minds, thanks to the media.

    Assad also urged women education and women rights. I got free education in school and government paid for my university studies. They paid for my health care too. This was available to any Syrian of any sect. I am not religious and wear Western clothes, nobody harassed me even once in Syria because of this. If one wanted to be observant, they had freedom to do that.

    Syria was a net exporter of food. Agricultural sector was booming. Syria had the most stable and diverse economy in Middle East. Middle Class was booming and increasing. Most middle class businessmen were Sunnis. 4 billion was invested in Aleppo alone only in 2010. There was no sharia law, no religious courts, no ethnic hatred.

    Now think about that? What was the problem? No problem! Problems were invented by Qatar and Saudi's because Assad rejected their proposal for pipeline through Syria to protect Russian interests.

    You want elections in Syria? With 30% of country held by Al-Qaeda jihadis? Who will allow elections there?

    Why doesn't America demand it's allies hold elections? Where are elections in Saudi Arabia? Jordan? Kuwait? Qatar? Bahrain? Oman? UAB?

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    What?????????

    I am a secular Muslim. Most Syrians are secular. 10% of Syrians (2 million) are Christians.

    Go away.
     
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    So? You are an unfaithful infadel? Go away? Me thinks thou doest protest too much.
     
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    People like you is the reason why abortion should remain legal! Too bad that option wasn't taken then.
     
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    Bwahahahahahaha, you are not Syrian, I think that you are an a plant to gin up support for the Tyranical Assad regime who is murdering his own people with the usual Islamo injustice. Getting involved in Syria is a serious mistake for America.
     
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    I am Syrian. Left Syria in Dec 2012. Going back soon.
     
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    Google tracks user searches all over world and suggests most common.

    Images below suggest the truth about worldwide perception of the rebels and Syrian Army


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    Does SyrianGirl1982 really believe that over a million Syrians became refugees solely because they were afraid of the rebels? Why then is it that three out of four refugees are Suni, the base support group of the rebellion and the oppressed majority of Syrian citizens? If the Turks are so pro-Jihadi, why did so many Syrians become refugees there and why did the Syrian Army and secret police carry out several attacks over the border into Turkish territory?

    For that matter, who were all those "terrorists" killed by the Assad regime in the first year of the civil war, when the number of foreign jihadis was reportedly extremely small? To believe the Assad regime, large numbers of foreign terrorists somehow infiltrate the country in large number almost overnight and delude dozens of communities into immediately assisting and supporting them. They cleverly brought almost no arms, ammunition or explosives with them and they cleverly launched their attack so that the Assad regime would have a major advantage in troops, equipment and coherence of command.

    The evidence of this being a clever foreign Islamist plot from the get-go is obviously overwhelming. I'm amazed I did not see this blindingly obvious truth before, and I must now believe the Assad regime and discount any "evidence" of atrocities committed by their forces against rebel communities, no matter how convincing that evidence may be. SyrianGirl1982, your overwhelmingly convincing argument has swept aside all my objections and I will now support Basser Assad unswervingly.

    NOTE - SERIOUS SARCASM ALERT FOR THIS POST!!!
     
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    okay I'm guessing

    your 6 or 7 years old from the responses to Syrian Girl?
     
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    Do not take it personally, But can ALL other Muslims also return to their 52 countries ?? :peace: :peace:

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    Abu, as an Egyptian, do you support Assad or are u against him ( same as the Muslim brotherhood ) ?
     
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    Were you there? Even in the early months most of the demonstrators had radical slogans inspired by the Muslim Brotherhood. It was the poor and the religious factions that came out to protest. In matter of months they began attacking police stations and government offices. The middle class and secularists stayed home and were largely absent from mass protests. Look at Aleppo, the biggest city in the country. All of the liberal areas, middle class areas, Christian and minority areas, did not fall under rebel control. It was the more conservative religious areas that fell under terrorist control. They have only themselves to blame. It was not a democracy uprising, but a Saudi funded muslim brotherhood uprising.

    In Darayya (my home city) all the terrorists entered the city in the matter of weeks, happened so quickly. No democratic slogans by them. I was there and saw what they were like. They were harassing the locals, accusing everyone who did not support them of being Assad agents and shabiha. That's how they operate, if you are not with rebellion then you are shabiha. They began to extort the local businessmen and threatening the women to force them to wear more conservative clothing. That is the reality of what happened there.

    Here is a 2012 video of jihadis making a child sing about the destruction of World Trade Center 9/11/01. The child also promises to kill all "Shias + Alawites"

    [video=youtube_share;85pPcDurb0k]http://youtu.be/85pPcDurb0k[/video]

    Think twice about who you are supporting.

    If Syrian Army was to launch a SCUD missile at the rally shown in the video, would it be justified? I say yes, absolutely. But then thee media would air "shocking images" of civilians killed by Assad missiles. Am i right? If a missile hits a jihadi rally and kills 100 people, opposition and media will say 100 civilians died. Never mind the fact that they were singing jihadi songs and waving black al-qaeda flags!

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    Can all Americans return to Europe and Africa. That's where they are from! Only Native Americans are originally from that continent.
     
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    Stop this Alpha.

    Assad was not well liked by the Syrian population and did some bad things - Got it.

    This has nothing to do with anything. I may not like Obama but this does not mean I want an Al Qaeda backed extremist group to take power.

    This is the same in Syria.

    The husband of one of my wife's good friends (she is Serbian) went back to Syria because his brother was kidnapped by the rebels. No info on the Brother unfortunately but he is going to bring the Brother's son back as he now has no father.

    This guy left Syria when he was 20, spent some time in Africa and then came to the US and is around 45 now. His whole family is back in Syria and he went back for a visit about 1.5 years ago and started up a chicken farm (now destroyed of course:)) I think this fellow may be Muslim but certainly not a practising one. He drinks, smokes, does not celebrate Ramadan but I do not recall him ever eating pork.

    I have had numerous long conversations with this fellow about the situation in Syria and he has no love for Assad and explained that most Syrians do not like him either.

    Then he stated but, the last thing the people want is the rebels. These are religious extremists who want to implement sharia law and so on. He said that the Christians are terrified hat these people will come to power. Syria has been a secular state and open to all religions. It was a modern society that was not ruled by fundamentalist/extremist Islam (hence the term secular).

    The Al Qaeda backed Nursra group are not a group that the people in general support and they are not a group that we should be supporting. They are extremely nasty people and doing nasty things.

    This will be another black mark on US foreign policy as many in the administration are already warning. We have no business supporting these extremist religious fanatics who want to bring Syria back to the dark ages by implementation of religious extremism.

    I just do not understand why you would want the US to support and give arms to Al Qaeda and their allies.

    I just do not understand why you would ignore the fact that the rebels are already killing Christians and anyone who they think disagrees with their cause.

    All you seem to come up with is Assad is a bad guy. Got it, but the rebels are 10 times worse and more importantly, the majority of the Syrian people do not support the rebels. A large percentage of people fighting for the Rebels are foreign extremist religious militia types. This is not a popular uprising of the people of Syria.
     
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    Sounds good. He should have allowed elections to prove that legitimacy. Go fight your war, but it all could have been avoided if Assad put his people's wishes ahead of his own job security.
     
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