Record Cold Forces Rethink on Global Warming

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  1. Josephwalker

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    You are the one that mentioned how hot it is in Australia. I merely informed you that's nothing new and it's been hotter than this down under. well before so called global warming.
     
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    Oh really? How hot is it? Hotter than this?


    "Other examples include The Daily News in 1932:
    "Yesterday at Port Augusta people sweltered, and they were not surprised to hear that the mercury had risen to a record height for that city - it stood at 119.4 at the hottest part of the day. This high figure recalls other hot days that have been experienced in various parts of the Commonwealth. The palm - a cool, shady tree - must go to Bourke, generally recognised as the hottest town in Australia. On one blistering day in January, 1909, Bourke scored the Australian record of 125 degrees. The highest recording in our own State was made at Eucla, now known principally as a residence for snakes. In January, 1906, the mercury climbed to 123.2 degrees. Marble Bar has a couple of rather warm days to its credit. In January, 1905, and again in January, 1922, 120.5 degrees were recorded in that pleasant little town.

    The Mercury Hobart in 1939:

    The claim by New South Wales that Ivanhoe, with an unofficial reading of 122 degrees, is the hottest place in Australia, is challenged by West Australia, in fact West Australia challenges all-comers as far as Australia is concerned. The 27 consecutive "centuries" of temperature claimed by Ivanhoe would represent a cool change for Marble Bar (W.A.). Marble Bar has the distinction of 106 consecutive "century" readings in the shade, made with tested instruments under regulation conditions. Marble Bar has an official record of 120.55 in January, 1905. Eucla has gone even better than that. In January, 1906, 123.2 was reached.

    The Melbourne Argus in 1922:

    Tho highest temperature ever officially registered in Australia is 125deg. Fahr. This was at Bourke. Eucla came second in 1906 with 123.2, and in 1908 with 122"

    http://www.waclimate.net/extreme-temperatures.html
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    It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that Mankind is responsible for global warming, not nature. The largest natural contributor to greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere are volcanoes and related geologic structures. Yet Mankind is outproducing the world's volcanic system by about 99 times their total output. Other comparisons resemble this one. Global warming is NOT a natural event. It's man-made.
     
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    Your previous assertion that extreme weather proves man made climate change is proven false by "the summer that never was". Accept defeat and move on.
     
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    Glad you understand how the effect the polar vortecies have, especially when disrupted.
     
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    Did your original post provide “verification” No? I guess then it is meaningless

    Btw, these authors have not had their minds changed by any recent events. Also, while they might be right or not. It is useful to consider their scientific expertise. Tom is a Mechanical engineer, And tim used to be a professor in the geography dept. i am not aware of any oublishec peer reviewed research by either if them. As i say, they might be right, otoh no legal proceeding would accept them as an expert witness. So they are mosly two guys with an opinion
     
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    The point is that it's cold here and hot there - BUT, the issue is what's going on over a multi-year average on Earth as a whole.
     
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    Up down, to alarmists it is only up.

    But why get alarmed when your concern amounts to tenths of a degree?

    Were I alarmed as you are, I would look into warmer climates to find out if they have damage.
     
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    The appalling ignorance about climate change you people peddle is amazing.
     
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    Whether or not we are in an ice age has no impact over whether the warming is coming from human produced CO2. Also, just because we are in an ice age, doesn't mean warming won't cause massive economic damage. The rise in sea levels alone can flood major cities causing trillions in property damage and mass migrations. Also, your graph is only for greenland which is only a tiny percent of the entire planet. Here is the global climate graph:
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    Two things. First, you don't mention how you are getting your prediction that the earth will warm for the next several million years from. Second, you don't address the reason why its warming now. A million year warming trend doesn't necessarily explain warming over 150 years.
     
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    The little ice age was regional not global and only bumped up global average temperatures modestly over several hundred years. Here it is with our current warming. Warming isn't necessarily a good thing because most of our population centers are right by the ocean and will get ruined by rising sea levels.
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    Yes, climate change is global. Glad you're catching on.
     
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    Thread title is as dumb as it gets.
     
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    Sorry, my bad. I meant Mrs. Satan, since the Great Satan simply means America, right? :)

    Well, just look around and see the impact we have on the environment.
    The Chinese are moving mountains for god's sake. I mean quite literally moving mountains.
     
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    Hang around because there have been some truly classic dumb statements about climate change
     
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    Rather not cause the sixth mass extinction
     
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    All I know is that the world has many different places. Some are so cold that we can't possibly thrive there, like Antarctica, and others so hot, like the Sahara that the same is true. If global warming means that temperatures are going to get warmer over the centuries, one look at a map will tell you that there is a whole lot of land that will be opened up. If we're slipping into another ice age, then we have a problem because there aren't nearly as many places where it's just too blasted hot to live.

    All-in-all, I hope we do have global warming. That means the polar ice caps will melt and all those lefties in the coastal cities will just have to start thinking like Noah and invest in an ark.
     
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    I believe in man-made global warming, but I don't believe it has much to do with industry and everything to do with clear cutting the Amazon rainforest. For decades, they told us the Amazon rainforest was the lungs of the world, and for decades, they told us that dirt farmers in Brazil were clear cutting the Amazon at the rate of 50 acres a day. Well, here we are, decades later, the lungs of the world are gone, and the earth is heating up. Why is anyone surprised? Why is anyone blaming anything else?
     
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    She didn't say how it's going to end in 12 years. For all we know, we'll all be under a thick layer of ice. ;-)
     
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    Please define any climate region on earth without referencing any meteorological data
     
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    I have no problem at all with either concept, I think you just don't understand the paucity f data from some places and plethora of others and that our current method of collection is far more likely to produce anomalous highs than lows.
     
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    Crap happens then you die...
     

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