Religious exemption from having photo on gun license? Really?

Need more data.

 

No. Gun free zones are areas prohibited by law to carry in. That can be a building, or public space. Depending on state laws.

 

Even on some public spaces? What a joke of a law.

 

Yeah of course, need more data for a conclusion. However, that is my hypothesis, which doesn't require data.

 

All the more reason why I think that the gay community would have less people who would be capable of killing a man with their bare hands.

 

No, it isn't. The armed security CHOSE not to do anything after the gunman had gotten past them. The unarmed patrons had several opportunities to have rushed the gunman; especially during the extended period after his weapon malfunctioned, but they instead chose to cower helplessly and do exactly nothing to help themselves.

 

I'm sure psychologists and many other medical professionals would say that people in a certain mental state, do NOT have a choice.

 

No, they wouldn't say that. Medical professionals know that training and experience, combined with mindset, can enable people to respond effectively in rapidly evolving crisis situations.

The simple fact is that if you CHOOSE to not open your mind to the possibility of ever facing a critical situation then if you are faced with a critical situation you will not know how to respond and you will freeze. If, on the other hand, you CHOOSE to develop a proper mindset and think beforehand about how you might respond to a given situation you will react far better than those who choose to bury their heads in the sand.

 

Duplicate post

 

I'm sorry -- you'll have to keep track of your own words.

 

Is is now 100% possible to stop the spread of HIV / AIDS with testing and prevention, Anti Viral treatments etc.. Education Pre Natal care etc....

 

No more than Heterosexuals.
Stereotypes against Gay Males ?
Your Bigotry is showing.

 

Making a hypothesis is bigotry now too? I'm not saying I'm right. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.

 

I'm sorry. I keep perfect track of my words and I didn't say "all." Perhaps you can tell me where I said it.

 

I believe you implied that people who had NOT undergone training also had a choice not to act IN THE MOMENT OF ATTACK! Is this correct?

 

Mistake. Moderators, the fact that we can't delete posts in this forum, is a joke! Change it so that we can! And I do know that XenForo has the delete function.

 

Such would allow problematic posters to go back and remove old posts that may be used against them at a later date. The fact posts cannot be removed by the ones who made them ensures that a semi-permanent record of idiotic conduct remains to be referenced, and show when someone is intentionally engaging in intellectual dishonesty.

 

I saw your comment about wanting to delete this post, but, I still have a thought I wanted to share.

Everything in how you act is, ultimately, based on a choice.

People are faced with the realities of the world every day. Some people make a choice - consciously or not - to face those realities honestly, and some make the choice to reject those realities and to believe that they can make the world be as they want if they only believe hard enough. These are people who believe that they can make danger and risk and unpleasant things like the existence of criminals and violence go away through simplistic philosophies.

Let's face it: there are bad things in the world. People can choose to acknowledge that reality or not. If they choose not, then they will go through their lives with blinders on, determined to believe that everything is unicorns and rainbows. Most of these people will go through their entire lives blissfully unaware and never face a negative consequence to that choice. The unfortunate few will be faced with that they have struggled to deny, and when confronted with it they will collapse emotionally and intellectually and find themselves utterly helpless. They will wail and beat their chest and rend their garments and demand for someone to explain how such a horrible thing could have happened. Unable to face the flaws in their own thinking they will struggle to find something to blame. They can't blame their assailant, because the assailant isn't responsible for their actions, right? They can't blame themselves, because to do so would be to acknowledge the flaws in their worldview. So, they blame the inanimate object. They demand to ban the gun, because the gun is the only thing they can focus their anger, resentment, and hate on. If only there weren't guns then they would never have been hurt/frightened/terrorized by a gun. These people live in a dream world where crime and violence only happen on the TV, which is why so many who are faced with a real attack describe how it was "like something on TV" and their minds just can't accept that what they are witnessing/experiencing is real, and they freeze like a deer in the headlights.

It's actually a phenomenon that's been documented among people who think that "all you have to do is call 911", without thinking about how you don't just call 911, you need to be able to articulate who you are, where you are, and what kind of help you need! But so many people choose to believe that all they need to do is call 911 that in a crisis situation they dial 911 and then just scream mindlessly into the phone because they never thought about what they needed to actually do after the act of dialing the three digits!

Life has risks, actions have consequences. The more people understand that and accept that, AND accept the self-responsibility intrinsic to that reality, the better off we all are.

 

Ask Andrew Jackson about his pre-election prediction posts...

 

I didn't want to delete the post in my reply to you. However, I accidentally posted a new post in which I quoted myself and I have no idea how I did it. So I edited it and added that it was a mistake.

This is what I am saying that psychologists and other medical professionals would not agree with. They would say that a choice not made consciously is not a choice at all, but is an uncontrolled choice. Are you saying that a child who witnesses their parents murdered has a choice to act in some way other that be completely traumatised and motionless? Try telling me that they do. Anyway, you didn't confirm if you believe that people who had NOT undergone training also had a choice not to act IN THE MOMENT OF ATTACK even if they were totally mentally paralysed.

Do some people really think that there are zero bad things in the world? I agree that people can have a 'unicorns and rainbows' outlook of the world, my mother and sister are two of them. However, it wouldn't be realistic for them to ask themselves the question "should I get training to deal with a future event to defend myself." They've simply never been faced with that choice. My mother and sister know very well that there are bad things in the world, however they don't consider that those bad things will ever cross their paths and they will forever be that way.

 

I have included the definition of 'bigotry' below for your review. You can tell me in your reply how my post constitutes your revised understanding of 'bigotry.'

Bigotry:
intolerance towards those who hold different opinions from oneself.

 

Could I actually have silenced @6Gunner?

 

Nope. Just had some circumstances in life that prevented me from posting as much the last few days.

 

Ah. Understood; my apologies for the misunderstanding.

Children exposed to violence at a young age have different responses to that stimulus. Some children have responded to criminal assault quite effectively; even saving their own family through surprisingly effective actions. I was fortunate as a child to have grown up with the influence of capable people who sought to instill that capability in me early on, and I faced circumstances that might have turned out badly but because I was taught how to deal with certain things tragedy was avoided. Granted, how a child responds is directly linked to how the parents choose to raise them, and if the parents don't teach them the options available they will indeed have no choice but to freeze in terror at a situation they have not been given the tools to address. That is, however, the fault of the parents, and not a basis for an argument in favor of governmental policy that infringes upon people's rights. Adults ALWAYS have a choice of how to face life, and what risks they're going to prepare for. Sadly, too many make a poor choice.

No one of sound mind REALLY thinks there are no bad things in the world. They make a choice to rationalize their belief that the world can be that way, and they get very angry and defensive at any insinuation the world might not conform to their desired configuration. News reports cover violence and crime every day; for a person to say they've "never been faced with that choice" is for them to be deluding themselves.

 

Nope, you still haven't confirmed it! You're still talking about preparing for attack. I'm talking about whether people who have NOT undergone training have a choice not to act IN THE MOMENT OF ATTACK even if they were totally mentally paralysed. Using the Orlando nightclub as an example.