Republican National Committee, Michigan GOP ask state board to delay certifying election results

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The Republican National Committee and Michigan Republican Party released a letter Saturday urging the Michigan Board of State Canvassers to delay certification of Michigan's statewide election results for 14 days and audit Wayne County's general election results.

The letter, written by Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, who is from Michigan, and Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox, said it supported a request by John James, a Republican candidate for the U.S.Senate, to investigate the county's results for what it called election "irregularities."

Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson has said audits are planned after certification and there are no credible fraud allegations to justify a delay in the board's duty of certifying the results. Audits can only be conducted after certification because only then do officials have legal access to the required documents, Benson said on Twitter.
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https://news.yahoo.com/republican-national-committee-michigan-gop-204704250.html

First of all, it likely wouldn't take 14 days to audit a single county.

Secondly, they reference the Georgia audit just finished, saying "there was no reason to hurry certification along". Here's a tip, bimbos... The Georgia recount was conducted IN TIME to complete state certification by design. They are waiting until the last minute with this Hail Mary, which is never a good look.

Finally, Ronna Romney McRomney is an insufferable bimbo.

Monday will be an interesting day in the election cycle.... I expect when it's all said and done, Michigan (and Penn) will certify as they are required to do by their state law.

Anybody disagree?

 

It's their right to contest it and like you said, it's not like it's slowing anything down.

Besides, the overall effect of this is that future elections should be even more secure and that is good for both sides.

Not sure why the left are crying so much.

No, I don't expect any results to change.

 

Great stuff, EB.

I agree.

Plus, no matter what:

It is 1000% Certain Biden WILL Get Michigan's 16 Electors. Period

 

That's not remotely what I said... that's the ridiculous claim they are making.. They made the claim that it didn't slow anything down in Georgia, which it didn't...

Michigan, by LAW, has to certify by COB Monday.

A 14 day audit would more than likely go past that deadline (/s)

You'd be crying too if you saw your democracy crapped on by idiots..

 

Um, they don't go to work until Jan. 3

 

Are you familiar with Michigan's state law? I'm not, but legislators determine state election laws. They apparently set a date for the state board to meet Monday. Your assumption is that the board is supposed to certify the election even if they aren't comfortable that the results are accurate. It seems clear that the state board gets to vote whether to certify or not. That must be in the state legislative law, otherwise they would just have a law that the election gets rubber stamped on a certain date.

The state board consists of two Democrats and two Republicans. The more interesting question is what happens if there is a tied 2-2 vote on whether to certify or not.

 

I'm certainly not either, but I can read from those who are.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/lo...ults-michigan-board-of-canvassers/6355742002/

It seems clear that the state board doesn't really have much of a choice here... It does seem to be essentially a rubber stamp effort, by design, but following the law doesn't seem to be in vogue anymore either.

 

It is slowing down the entire transition.

 

Yes something that takes 14 days seems likely to last longer than 2 days lol

 

I'm not familiar either but I read an article earlier today, clarifying the issue. Like this (I quote from memory):

The state Constitution says the canvassers SHALL certify the election. It's not optional. It's not the moment for audits. Since all counties have certified already, by State Law the DUTY of the canvassers is that they HAVE to certifgy, period. Then If the two Republicans fail to certify, the Michigan Court of Appeals will order them to do it and hold them in contempt if they do not. Then the State Governor can replace them ANYTIME. She has the authority to remove anybody at ANY time and replace the person immediately, in all of one minute if she wants to do it. Even though it's two Republicans and two Democrats, all 4 serve as nominated by the State Governor and can be removed and replaced anytime she feels fit and she doesn't even need a justification to do it. But certainly if they are held in contempt of court, that's enough justification.

Now, politically speaking, she prefers not to need to go that far so she hopes that the Court of Appeals will resolve the matter. But if necessary, I believe that she will. She is not about to allow the GOP's dirty maneuvers to steal the election, disenfranchise all voters of her state.

Here, the article. I'm sure you'll shoot the messenger because it's CNN. I'm not familiar with Michigan state law either but I'm sure that the Michigan State University law professor they are quoting (who used to be Michigan's Deputy Attorney General), is at least way more familiar with it than you and me. Take it or leave it.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/politics/michigan-election-results-certification/index.html

 

Funny thing is, Joe doesn't need Michigan.

 

This is from an opinion piece, which largely slams Republicans and Trump, but it does offer at least one bit of non-opinion fact about Michigan's canvassing board requirement law.

We'll see what happens tomorrow, but it looks like if the two Republicans do not vote to certify, there is an allowable 20-day extension.

Anyway, this satisfies my question "What if the board's vote is tied 2-2?"

 

Yes, so it appears like the Court of Appeals would only interfere after 20 days. But like I said, the Governor can replace the two recalcitrant Republican officers anytime. She'd had to nominate two other Republicans but presumably, people who would tell her they'd certify the result.

I hope that you realize that there is no irregularity whatsoever there beyond small discrepancies that happen in all elections and are a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the total, making it perfectly good to certify the results. The two Republicans are holding off just because of the undue pressure of the fascist wannabe.

Shame on anybody who supports this attack on Democracy.

 

Huh, one year ago, Democrats and liberals were warning about how easy it is to hack voting systems, coupled with concerns that some states were using computer-machines which have no paper trail.

One year later, and "Poof!" The election is completely secure, even though almost all states are using the same computers/systems. It would appear that the election system is not secure if a Republican wins, but completely secure if a Democrat wins. Same system.

Well, at least John Oliver put a funny spin on the topic when he aired an 18 minute monologue about how easy it is for American elections to be completely hacked.

 

The Trump administration made the election 100% secure over the past year.

Thank you, sir!

 

Yes. As certified by HLS, the election was 100% secure. Then Trump fired the official who said that.
Shame on you. You're endorsing an attack on Democracy.
Did you see what REPUBLICAN governor of Maryland said today? That we're looking like a Banana Republic and Trump should stop playing golf and concede.

 

Fun fact: if the election results in GA, WI, MI and PA are thrown out, Biden only needs 238 Electoral votes to win and he would still have 244. Constitution says so. Yay!!!!!

isnt that great???

 

Every time you shame someone, which is fairly often, and accuse them/us of anti-democratic leanings, I find it pretty amusing. Thanks for a little Sunday afternoon levity!

 

That John Oliver show aired on November 3, 2019, exactly 365 days before this year's major election. Not much changed with the states' voting equipment in one year.

I expect if the same equipment is still in use for the 2022 mid-terms and Republicans sweep the House and pick up Senate seats, that equipment will become untrustworthy to Democrats, like it was untrustworthy one year ago, but not today.

 

Yeah, I'm sure you find it amusing. You don't seem to see how serious this is. Whatever.

 

Please tell me you know "hacking a voting system" doesn't have a lot to do with the voting equipment itself...

 

Election integrity is very serious.

 

Will Rogers on Politicians vs. Comedians
"Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke."

So lighten up Francis and find the humor in all this madness.

 

hopefully Team Trump will find some evidence.

someday

 

Which is why it’s great that this was the most secure election in the nation’s history. According to the trump administration.