Republicans are smart and provide most of the food you eat.

about a million farmers get 25 billion with a B in subsidies which explains why they voted for trump https://www.downsizinggovernment.org/agriculture/subsidies

 

I live in a fairly rural area. Yea small farmers have a tough time but the problem is not "evil liberals" it's competing with the big agras. Yea most of my farmer friends are Republicans and a lot of them Trumpers. They're scared and they think Trump will do something to change their situation. I haven't seen any evidence that he will and a lot of them are coming to realize that.

As far as not being respected for their work, it's as always a tribal thing. They distrust "city liberals" and a lot of liberals who don't know them as people see them as uneducated rubes.I feel lucky that I can cross that divide.

 

I know many farmers that are not welfare dependent. My uncle for example has a very nice house and his family does pretty good for themselves. I don't know a single farmer that needs any extra help from anybody.

Apparently Matt doesn't know anyone who grows corn...in Iowa

 

A higher education gives you a degree not common sense. Many highly educated people can't even change the tires on their own cars. Many colleges only teach political correctness and little else.

 

when trump cancelled TPP he screwed your farmer friends. Your farmer friends screwed themselves when they voted for trump... https://www.agweb.com/article/how-the-tpp-would-affect-agriculture--naa-tyne-morgan/

 

higher education means higher income. stay poor my friend stay poor. https://trends.collegeboard.org/education-pays/figures-tables/lifetime-earnings-education-level

 

A college degree while not proof of intelligence is correlated with intelligence because you still learn a lot, and yes anybody can get a college degree. People who get college degrees tend to be more of the intellectual types in the first place. There are exceptions to every correlation but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

How was that "obvious"? There were no quotation marks, no reference to the person being named, no link to the quoted material.

There still isn't, by the way. Do you have an actual quotation, or are you simply attributing the sentiment to liberals?

My side? You don't even know me.

People of all political persuasions will sometimes try to portray their opponents as uneducated and stupid. Please demonstrate that this is some sort of main strategy of "my side", and that they do it more than conservatives do the opposite.

Oh, come on. Intelligence does not belong to one party or the other, especially because people have all sorts of different reasons for choosing a party. There are smart Republicans; there are dumb Republicans. There are smart Democrats; there are dumb Democrats.

You also seem to be mixing up different concepts. There is Republican and Democrat, and separately there is conservative and liberal. There is significant overlap (i.e., many conservatives are Republicans), but they are not the same thing. Try to keep your comparisons focused.

#1, Now who is engaging in broad smears of their political opponents?

#2, please provide evidence of that. The usual attempt is to look at charitable giving, but I warn you that those stats leave out a lot of relevant context.

Of course not. But it does take a certain amount of smarts to get a degree, just like it takes a certain amount of smarts to absorb any sort of education.

Of course, as others have said, "smart" does not mean "has a lick of common sense." But just like being smart isn't a substitute for common sense, common sense isn't a substitute for being smart. They are different things; one does not cancel the other.

That's not really true, though the difficulty of getting a degree depends heavily on what school you go to, what your major is, and what courses you take.

Stop and think about the fact that you say you want to "forget about the differences", in the SAME POST where you smear liberals as a group. Maybe you should try walking the walk.

 

Black and Hispanic urban ganglands are the core base, the most faithful democrat demographic. They have terrible schools, low test scores, lots of dropouts, huge percentages of people on public assistance.

The least educated and the most dangerous. Hillary's people.

 

pretend world. there is plenty of truth out there go find it.

 

The topic is Republicans are smarter and provide the most food. Try to stay on topic. Thank you.

 

Ummm no, being able to grow wheat doesn't make you smarter than a biological researcher.

 

Being able to grow wheat for a living on a modern farm isn't for dummies.

 

I don't think being able to obtain food outside of a supermarket is about intelligence, per se, but what it does is give you a sense of self-sufficiency. That removes the fear of something like the world turning into some Hollywood disaster movie, and being stuck in the middle of New York during a zombie apocalypse.

Do you know how to grow potatoes, corn, and rice? Do you know the difference between edible and poisonous mushrooms? Do you know how to be a hunter gatherer? Do you even know why people sleep at night? Have you even seen the milky way?

Most lefties are in the cities, and that means they have zero knowledge that will help them survive in case the "SHTF". It doesn't take a high IQ to grow rice, but it does take a lot of water. You do have to know when to plant and when to harvest. You have to know how to harvest, and how to separate wheat from the chaff. How do you take a hog and turn it into dinner for the next few months?

Being dependent on other people keeping you alive must be a scary thing.

 

That sounds like more of a practical intelligence rather than an intellectual intelligence.

 

My dad's family grew wheat and other crops for a long time. To be able to run a modern farm keeping up with machinery and irrigation and so forth is like running a small business.

The sum intelligence to run a large competitive and successful wheat farm would be about equal to a some lab guy that just has to show up to work.

 

Yep, modern farming is complicated. No disrespect for successful farmers.

That said, I think you're talking about different kinds of KNOWLEDGE. And then the question becomes, how much intelligence does it take to absorb different kinds of knowledge? And then throw in things like "what if you have an aptitude for particular kinds of knowledge?"

I'm a computer programmer. I'm plenty smart. But also, I just grok code, so it is relatively easy for me.

I was a biochemistry major in college, before switching majors. So I know I wouldn't have made a very good scientist. I was smart ENOUGH to get the chemistry and math and such, but I didn't excel at it or love it, and I didn't seem to have that inborn aptitude that I have for programming.

Same with running a business. I could undoubtedly learn to farm and run a small business. But I have very little interest/aptitude for it. I've been in management positions, and I've operated a small business (with me as the sole employee). I did what needed to be done, but that's it. Neither management nor business is my forte.

So which one takes the most intelligence? Hard to say. I didn't find business or management to be particularly complicated -- it was mostly lack of interest that kept me from being really good at it. But then, I wasn't doing either at a very high level. Biochemistry was way more complicated and difficult, AND I didn't have the love for it.

So if you put a gun to my head, I'd say biochemistry is harder than coding which is harder than running a business (or farming). But I'd add that all three can be plenty hard, all three require intelligence, and that in the end it may be aptitude for one or the other that determines success.

 

I remember hours of study learning so much that is now forgotten to get my Biology major and Chemistry minor to then go on to get my professional degree. There are many in our field that are brilliant, and a rare few that seem just a little bit dumb.

I do not believe that it takes about the same level of intelligence to live as a bushman in the desert as it dose to be an engineer.

But I feel it takes an equivalent sum IQ level to run a large agricultural farm/operation as it does to do many science-based jobs.

 

Except that isn't true. over 90% of the farms in the US are family owned. Now some of these family owned farms are monsters that produce exclusively for certain companies, but they are still technically family farms.

 

How conveniently this is ignored by the OP and cons.

 

Let me reword that - very little of the food we get comes from small, family-owned farms, the vast majority of food is produced by agribusiness.
There are, indeed, many "legal" family farms - I sold a house with 7.75 acres, I could have applied for a "farm assessment" and filed plans to produce a few hundred dollars of "food, or fiber" per year, in exchange for reduce real estate taxes. I considered raising Lllamas, but I saw a black bear go thru the yard and decided my investment could vanish overnight, and I didn't feel lucky.

 

I understood your point. I just felt an irresistible impulse to point out that there are massive family farms. I am jelly of such people.....well until I mow grass and then I am like, "I really need to stop buying land and start selling the crap. Having "space" is just too much work."

 

Ted Turner, John Wayne, Ron Reagan, even Bimbo Bush had large "family farms".
I mowed about 5 acres of the 7.75 acres and it gets old pretty quickly...