Republicans defending Confederate symbols?

I've cited historical, primary sources. That's how you actually learn history. Meanwhile, you and yours simply make stuff up without being able to appeal to any primary sources.

No historian denies that Columbus traded slaves. None. We have primary sources that show he did. If you think he didn't, then all you have is a desperate fantasy. Facts don't stop being so just because they offend you.

 

If blind denialism is all you have, then blind denialism is all you have.

 

Most "Christians" at the time supported slavery. I've read your links. They don't disprove anything.

Should you ever develop a curiosity for real history, which would mean consulting primary sources, you should look up a guy named Bartolomé de Las Casas. He was a member of Columbus's crew. The horrors of what he saw from Columbus and the rest of the crew drove him to become an abolitionist and to become a friar. If you want a real Christian account of these events, try him.

 

Funny how those documents surfaced in just the last couple decades or so. But that does not bother you

 

Funny how your writings suddenly poof were found

 

I'd love to see your proof that the writings of Columbus and of Bartolomé de Las Casas only arose over the couple of decades. Not that evidence seems to bother you.

 

They do not show what you claim

 

Again, evidence?

 

Which would be an interesting argument . . . if you had read them. You haven't.

 

In the 60's when I grew up there was nothing like this. Then all of sudden democrats came up with this revisionist history

 

So your "evidence" that these sources didn't exist is that you didn't hear about them until now? I'm sorry, but that's just sad, and a very poor excuse for your own revisionist history.

 

I did read them

 

Then you know that only your third source even tried to address the claims about slavery and did so very poorly . . . and is contradicted by the words of Columbus and his crew.

By the way, as for your fantasy about the letter I quoted not appearing until the 60s, I've done some of your homework for you, and you are very wrong:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus's_letter_on_the_first_voyage

 

Sure, I believe you

Did Columbus have slaves?

 

They have only been brought up in the last 20 years ago or so at Columbus day .uihiu If this was known why was it not taught 50 years ago and why were their status to celebrate what he did. your view is illogical. It was not taught that way when I went to school. But then I am probably much older than you

https://www.dailywire.com/news/hist...MI7LS8mN6d6gIVkcDICh0gVggLEAMYASAAEgI5l_D_BwE

https://www.indystar.com/story/opin...isionism-columbus-misleads-students/72735766/

https://www.lavocedinewyork.com/en/...nfederate-south-the-future-will-judge-us-too/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/columbus-day-a-defense-of-christopher-columbus/

 

Yes, the primary sources back up those claims, as you would know if you had read. But it doesn't suit your political agenda, and your political agenda is more important to you than facts or history, so facts and history must be ignored at all costs. You guys keep believing in time travelling Democrats. It is honestly a little endearing.

 

There is no original copy. Once again they are using something the found snd making it be what they want ti to be. From your link

My sources say you are wrong

 

This is outright false, as I've proven.

Columbus Day wasn't a federal holiday until the 1930s.

Again, your whole "It can't be true because I wasn't taught that" argument is complete nonsense. I've shown mentions of these sources, and even printed versions of these sources, that go back much further than 50 years ago. The fact that you can't handle this does not make it any less so. Your excuse is illogical. The fact that you weren't taught these facts back in the day does not stop them from being facts. Surely an educated adult can process this.

And this is why we disagree. I base my opinions on history on the best available historical evidence. You, by your own admission, never appeal to primary sources and, instead, base yours on political opinion blogs and what you were told to believe in school.

 

We don't have original copies of most handwritten documents. Are you aware of how this process works? Anyway, print editions go back way, way further than 50 years ago, which is when you claimed these were invented. There go those time traveling Democrats again!!!

 

So you deny it even when I show you wrong. This is revisionist history as I have proven, Your own link said they are not original documents so they are probably not reliable

 

One in your wiki link was found in 1985

 

Considering they're wanting things like Gone with the Wind banned your assertion that history books are safe sure doesn't assure me. Gone with the Wind may not be historical, but it is a part of our history.

 

Well since I simply Cut&Pasted that you're complaint is with the historians that made it available via GOOGLE

 

Maybe Republicans want to keep reminders of who put up those statues?
(or which Party, rather)
Just a thought.

Plus there's that whole thing about conservatism and preserving the memories of the past.

 

I’ll defend them. I’ve no issue with them at all. The historical context of them is easy for me to understand. They have a deep rooted meaning to many and it’s not about racial hatred. But If I had a piss poor understanding of history like do many on the left perhaps that would be different.

Now a question for you. If the lefties tearing down confederate monuments are doing so in the name of racial justify and unity why are they advocating racial segregation in 2020? Where is the lefts outcry about that? Crickets..and more crickets...