Republicans defending Confederate symbols?

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  1. Bluesguy

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    Neither was Europe and Africa and the Mediterranean areas and the shipped slaves to around the world so let's call it even.
    You seem to making the absurd argument that some slavery was better than other slavery.
     
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    Please read my posts instead of making **** up about them. Is that too much to ask? I haven't defended any kind of slavery.
     
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    Your the one saying it wasn't even. Was European slavery worse than slavery in the Americas? African slavery?
     
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    That is a democrat lie. The democrats revisionist history shows how they hate this country
     
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    Why are Blacks and democrats ignoring the Slavery in the middle east
     
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    We have contemporary writing regarding this, including writing from Columbus. But keep believing in time-traveling Democrats if that's what your historical revisionism requires. You shouldn't need to rewrite history in order to love your country. I don't. Not sure why you do.
     
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    I'm neither black nor a democrat. I'm more focused on domestic issues. When foreigners comment about US history and politics, conservatives are always the first to complain and tell them to mind their business.
     
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    @ptif219

    Should you wish to learn the truth, you can read Columbus in his own words here: https://books.google.com/books?id=NPXCTYxu-R4C&pg=PA10#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Here Columbus talks about the peaceful, helpful, Taino people . . . whom he slaughtered and enslaved

    "They have no iron or steel, nor any weapons; nor are they fit thereunto; not because they be not a well-formed people and of fair stature, but that they are most wondrously timorous… such they are, incurably timid… They are artless and generous with what they have, to such a degree as noone would believe but him who had seen it. Of anything they have, if it be asked for, they never say no, but do rather invite the person to accept it, and show as much lovingness as though they would give their hearts…

    …Their Highnesses may see that I shall give them as much gold as they may need, with very little aid which their Highnesses will give me; spices and cotton at once, as much as their Highnesses will order to be shipped, and as much as they shall order to be shipped of mastic… and aloe-wood as much as they shall order to be shipped; and slaves as many as they shall order to be shipped."

    Let me guess, time traveling Democrats, right?

    The historical fact is that Columbus made his fortune from slaves and gold . . . which was procured by slaves. If you need to deny that historical fact in order to love America (and, again, Columbus never even set foot on the American mainland), then you don't really love your country.
     
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    I didn't I showed you the truth you refused too read the links because you only believe what democrats tell you to believe
     
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    Every post you show you are a democrat
     
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    So what are you debating? The process by which you CAN achieve what you want, if you only put your mind to it?

    Presumption of ignorance is a highlight of shallow thinkers. I think Heine or maybe Spinoza said that.

    Don't know and don't care. The process I described is what actually IS and not what you may desire it to be. Don't whine about unfairness. Get out there and work for that change.


    The vast majority of American teachers vote Democrat. The people are not the problem, it's the party wanting them kept ignorant.
     
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    Then you don't know what the word means and you don't know what a libertarian is. Not would it excuse your historical revisionism, even if it were true.
     
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    I've based my opinions of Columbus on his own writings and those of one of his crew members. But, again, you seem to believe that those men were time-traveling Democrats. Weird superstition.
     
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    You're the one trying to make these specious distinctions not me.
     
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    He did not kill or enslave them. That is the democrats revisionist history. Columbus was a Christian and was there to show them God.
     
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    You mean what somebody claims is his writings
     
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    Intrawebz, where your most intimate desire can come true ;)
     
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    You were the one who made the "distinction" between slavery from one geography and another. So, again, I ask you to stop making up **** about my posts.
     
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    He and his crew disagree, including one which went on to become an actual man of God. It is your word and the word of other history deniers vs their own words. He both killed and enslaved them. No historian denies this fact. Contemporary sources attest to these facts. Why is it that historical revisionists always refuse to discuss primary sources? Then again, I guess that is what makes them historical revisionists to begin with.
     
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    Bwahaha, oh, this jus keeps getting funnier and funnier. So now you are claiming that his writings are fake because they offend your desired conclusion. So long, man. If you can't have an honest discussion, then there is nothing to discuss.
     
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    As we've seen from the historical revisionists on this thread and others.
     
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    Lot more to that vote then you have here :) LBJ BEGGED and pleaded with the GOP to get it passed because he didn't have enough support from his own party of racist bigots!
     
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    If you say so! It's your fantasy bro ;)
     
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    Columbus was a Christian. What you show are what somebody claims is his writings. Read my links and see. Columbus men he left behind may have done that but it was not Columbus
     
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    I see no proof those came from Columbus
     
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