Republicans keep House majority, projected to gain 12 seats

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  1. After Hours

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    Well considering those groups have been leaning towards the Democrats for the last few elections, I think it's safe to say they are pretty "strong" Democratic supporters, at least for now.
     
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    think about it for a while and i am sure it will make sense to you. if not ask the Lord.
     
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    Well said.
     
  4. ballantine

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    That was the scumbag Neo-Cons. The Dems could have run the dogcatcher in '08 and they would have won. However in '12 they had a legitimate gripe and just ran the wrong candidate. This time they don't have a candidate (so far), and I expect that this election will change that situation rather quickly.

    Forget about it. The Reps are going to roast her alive. She might not even make it out of the primaries. She's low hanging fruit, they're going to clobber her in every conceivable way.

    No, tonight's election results were a clear repudiation of the Democratic Party. Not just Obama and his policies, but the entire Party and its policies. Look at Wendy Davis down in Texas, she got skewered. The lefties in this country are way too arrogant for their own good. The reality is that Wendy offended the Christians and they took her down. The libs have a long way to go before they become as powerful as the Christians in that part of the country. And Wendy Davis just set their cause back by another twenty years.

    Face it man, the Democratic Party policies are not only unsustainable, they've actually caused severe damage to this country and to the world. The Labor Force Participation Rate in this country has lost three whole points since Obama took office. You know what that means, don't you? It means three percent of this country refuses to work anymore, they're just sitting it out till things get better. Leaves 'em plenty of time for political activism and such - 'cause if you spend most of your time knocking on doors and if you stay away from the pot dispensaries you might even be able to live on the meager subsistence of a welfare check.

    Don't laugh, there are Republicans doing that right now, I'm pretty hip to the ground games, I have my ear to the ground most of the time. Today I was talking to the election worker at the polling place. She was telling me that in '12 the Obama people were reading the street lists every hour (by law they have to be updated every hour, at least here in California), and they were calling all the people who hadn't voted yet, to get them out to the polling place. Well, this year - nothing. Nothing at all. It's like the Democrats didn't even care about this election. They're so entirely arrogant they seem to think that '16 is already a shoe-in for them.

    And it's anything but that. Because even as we speak, the Republican Party is field testing a brand new computer system that's going to make the Democratic ground game look like a sorry joke. The Dems are going to have to work very hard in '16 to keep up, and they're going to have to do it all on foot because it's too late for them to develop anything similar in the remaining time frame.

    '16 may end up becoming a very interesting race! :)
     
  5. Ethereal

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    Because more legal workers means less wealth, right? That's economics 101.
     
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    That is correct. She screws up practically everything she touches. And then she lies about what it means.
     
  7. Brewskier

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    We have plenty of unemployed workers who can fill the void left by the illegal workers you want to reward with amnesty.
     
  8. DevilMay

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    The pendulum swings back and forth.

    Just 4 short years ago Dems had a supermajority in the Senate, a commanding majority in the House and a popular president in the WH.

    How quickly fortunes change.

    The polling has for months and months given Hillary a consistent advantage in key swing states over EVERY potential 2016 GOP candidate. The Dems also have a clear electoral college advantage over the GOP, to the point they could lose the popular vote by as much as 3-4% and still win the WH. A productive midterm for the GOP doesn't change that reality, nor does it change the fact that pundits all over are already predicting a Dem Senate in 2016, based on the number of GOP seats up for election then...
     
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    i fully agree. the governorships are the key IMO. The voters in these states are fully rejecting anything relating to the democratic agenda. Even IL went red for the governorship. the DNC is at ground zero right now. its going to take them a long time to recover. hillary is not electable anymore IMO. I think the dems will try and recruit Ormon to run as a democratic presidential contender. they have to start completely over.
     
  10. John452

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    They were the only minority groups where the GOP made significant gains and they even got close to winning majorities in these groups which is a massive turn around from previous elections. I wouldn't consider these groups to be in the bag for democrats in future elections. They aren't in the bag for Republicans either but they are solid the democrats that hispanics and black appear to be.
     
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    Don't underestimate any party's stupidity. Today, Nov 4 2014, the electorate went Republican. Two years from now is plenty of time for our elected officials to (*)(*)(*)(*) up and hand over a gift to the other party. Republicans can be smart and set up 2016 easily, or they can be stupid and lose it easily. One thing is clear, the win is great for Republicans, but they do have the ball and need to avoid the fumble.
     
  12. John452

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    No but amnesty for illegals today encourages future illegal immigration. Amnesty does not solve the illegal immigration problem, it only encourages more to come in the hope one day they will be granted amnesty too and there is no reason for them to think they won't as America has already tried amnesty before. It did nothing to stop the flow of illegals and probably is the main reason it's a much bigger problem today then it was the first time amnesty was granted.
     
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    true but you have to look at the damage they have done in the last four years. they have been incompetent on everything that matters and the populace has felt it. meanwhile pushing pet causes like gay marriage and legalizing Pot. add to that not taking responsibility for anything, terrorist attacks, and ebola......they have proven that they as a party cannot lead the populace as they are structured right now. on top of that they have two years left of Obama LOL.

    i think most dems probably wish Obama wash done with his presidency right now LOL. its going to be hard to start fresh with Obama out there being his usual self.

    If i was running the DNC right now i would kick him out of the party.
     
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    Yea, let's reduce the supply of labor. That'll be great for the economy.
     
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    Exactly. The Reps are talking about it already, it'll be in tomorrow's talking points for sure. This election has to be the instantaneous end of the whining, because if it isn't then the Reps will be perceived as caring about nothing more than the demise of the Democrats. You can expect the Reps to get serious "right away". I'm sure they're fully aware of what's at stake. Namely all those seats you mentioned. :)
     
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    So deliver, GOP. I hope you do, actually. But I have no illusions.
     
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    yeah they could screw up but i dont think people will forget all the damage done in two years. a lot of which is going to really be felt. plus you still have obama doing his thing. They can try to distance the party from him but it didnt work this time.
     
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    Not true actually. The path to study in the US can be quite difficult, especially if you plan on working afterwards.

    The legal immigration system needs a real overhaul to allow the right people in with much greater ease.
     
  19. Ethereal

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    Why would you want to stop immigration? Increasing the supply of labor lowers prices and results in more wealth creation. California is losing workers to Texas. According to anti-immigration "economics", California should be experiencing some kind of an economic boom as a result, whereas Texas should be experiencing a drastic reduction in employment opportunities and standard of living. Just the opposite is true.
     
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    Just had to stop by and say "YAY"! So very happy this evening with the election results. WTG voters!!
     
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    Surely that's a matter of political opinion? I mean, I think we can all put our views aside and TRY to comprehend why our opponents think the way they do. Granted, a lot of Americans aren't feeling the economic recovery, but at the same time US unemployment stands at 5.9% - not far off "normal" economic times. The economy under Obama is NOWHERE NEAR the disaster Republicans expected/hoped for. Let's be honest.

    You could make the argument that things could be BETTER, but the GOP doesn't have a track record for delivering it. It's all rhetoric.

    The Middle Class generally feel safer with Dems in power. Even if Dems are "unpopular", when you do the polls on POLICY... Unsurprisingly, dems win on most issues. The problem is merely image - and the GOP only win by demonising.
     
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    I was under the impression California was more friendly to illegal immigration than Texas...
     
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    LOL, this isn't even worth replying too. its a total failure akin the the democratic party agenda. LOL...they couldn't even hold maryland for gods sake.
     
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    It would be for many in the economy whose wages are depressed thanks to the effects of illegal immigration on wages. And since illegal immigrants take more out of the system than they pay in, that would also benefit the economy.
     
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    I'm talking about the people who are leaving California and moving to Texas. Texas is experiencing a mass influx of workers from other states and it hasn't hurt their employment or growth rates. Granted, there is a point where there are too many workers, but that is only when a given economy does not possess idle capacity and all its resources are being put to use, which is not nearly the case for America. The more labor we have, the more we are able to produce, which means lower prices and more supply. That is a good thing.
     

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