Republicans understand democrats better than they understand themselves

Everyone's heard of a box of rocks, but thats not really the answer to why intelligent people believe foolish things- and many who do are educated and intelligent; just missing some fundamental logic. Found this video from a farmer who puts it in perspective very quickly. Enjoy-

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1167122620354602

 

If you received something and did not pay for it was free.

 

Maybe he should be reminded that tax cuts don't pay for themselves, and that handouts for farmers who were hurt by Trump's tariffs, or who were victims of flooding, have to be paid by someone. Or, maybe, that would be too much thinking outside pre-conceptions for him.

 

And here's a mirror for that glass house of yours.

Conservatives believed Trump was going to have Mexico to pay for a wall. Or that he had a Health Plan. That Trump had solved the North Korea problem.
That donating you salary of $400,000 while spending $110 million on golf was "somehow" a savings to taxpayers.

Whatever.

Roses do not grow from conservative butts any more than liberal ones.

 

It's all about which of the two sides get to control you while making themselves million and billionaires. If you haven't figured that out by now you're hopeless.

 

Well you know- everything should be free. We all know that, the guy is just pulling your drumstick.
You should try farming. I think it was Mike Bloomberg who told us it was so easy, you just poke a hole in the ground, drop in a seed and add water. Next thing ya know, you're a rich farmer.
Are you a rich farmer, Quantum? Know all about that business and why farm subsidies exist?

Or are you the guy who comes running when someone shakes the bucket?

 

So when you pay the taxes you send the gov to cover the welfare checks, that really doesn't cost you anything. Got it now.

 

Yes it does not cost the person receiving the check anything, it is free.

 

welfare is the cost of cheap labor... you don't get cheap labor for free

 

Republican math. Trump donates his $400,000 salary - but spends $110 million of taxpayer money on golf - and this somehow means that Trump is saving us money. Freaky ass crap, that is.

 

on golf at his own property too, so that 110 million goes to himself

 

Farmers got their welfare checks because Dirty Donalds idiot boy tariffs cost the farmers their Chinese export market and U.S. Taxpyers paid the penalty.

 

Yes... lovely. If only the Republicans were truly the party of only fiscal responsibility and Democrats were truly only the party of fiscal irresponsibility. Both parties carry far more baggage than that. But more noxiously, at the end of the day we end up voting for a person and not a policy platform. Alas.

 

Wow!
Tell you what I will raise you a bearded bloke with a southern drawl

 

You mean like believing there is widespread voter fraud when there’s zero evidence of such?

 

Ummm okay.

This guy wearing a 'COBRA' hoody from the HASBRO Toy line of GIJoe toys is clearly 'baked' ( I.e. high on marijuana) and pretty much making fun of real famers who grow food crops not drugs.

Okay you believe what you want to believe.

 

There are fundamental truths in that little video- but in fact, your view is pretty much fact.
Electing a president is actually the equivalent of hiring a CEO for a large business, yet we choose them because we like their suit and tie, and they smiled at us.

 

You lost.

 

Perhaps you have no exposure to farms or farmers; I've had quite a bit. Perhaps one of those who think of farming like Mike Bloomberg did, that any fool can be a farmer- when in fact, it's a complex business involving substantial money and risk requiring substantial management skills.

Obviously, you simply create what you want to believe. The guy has the total appearance of a real person a real farmer- and real logic.
People who are "baked": see normal as abnormal, thus reject normality, and have no capacity to understand what is going on.

 

Hey, I never said farming would be easy. Second, my uncle was a farmer, I have nothing against farmers. Third, I am not a rich farmer, but I am pretty rich, comparatively. My net worth is in the top 10%. And you know what? I worked hard for it, just like others did, but I also was lucky. But, I don't mind paying my fair share of taxes, so that others don't have to starve who were not as lucky as I am.

However, what I have a problem with Republicans thinking they are better than Democrats based on some pre-conceptions fed to them by RW media. Maybe the guy in the video hasn't figured this out yet: Most Democrats I know have nothing against hard work and making a profit. What they are against is that profit becomes the ONLY virtue in society, to the detriment of the community.

 

Reagan signed off on a 180% increase in the National Debt.
Trump has signed off on over $7 trillion in increases to the National Debt.

You can claim that Republicans have roses growing from their butts when it comes to spending - but it would be a lie.
The only real difference on spending is just disagreeing where to spend the money - not how much is spent.

 

I would discuss this with you, but I don't know you well enough to discuss your unpleasant trolling hatred for people you don't know. When you come up with an issue we can talk.

 

Nope, I vote democrat because I have found that they consistently enact policies that I like.

 

You do realize that the republicans know they are widely hated and harassed based on preconceptions fed by the left-wing media?

There are things here that aren't "pre-conceptions" about democrats- documented things.
Things like forgiving all student loans.
Those are loans the debtor asked for and agreed to the terms of. The purpose was to give them the ability to make higher incomes. The universities did provide those education to the students and did get paid, so the beneficiaries of this program have collected. The ones holding the bag, the unpaid debt- are American taxpayers. Forgiving those debts mean we stiff the average taxpayer to lift the obligation of debt off the people who made the deal to increase their income. In other words, the taxpayers gave these people a hand-up at discount interest rates, but now it's inconvenient to pay back, so it's unfair that the debt should be paid, even though the debtor has received the benefit.
It appears Biden is likely to do that.

The pressure for free college is from democrats, and the liberals and progressives that have been welcome under the dem umbrella. .
Along with free college, we have proposals for a minimum base income for everyone, a proposal to revise prisons that includes closing them altogether, proposals for reforming police departments which has already resulted in massive increases in violence all over the country. Big, long list of offensive crap that a self-respecting person would reject on the basic self-evident principles that every man and woman should understand. It's not a new phenomenon, just getting worse and more irrational that ever before. The democrats have always bought votes with promises they couldn't keep and shouldn't have made.

Most of the "improvements" that the democrats endorse serve to make one group happy at the expense of others- always using the proverbial OPM, or other people's money.
Giving away OPM never makes anyone wealthy, or for that matter even self-sufficient. Instead, it makes them dependent on the hand-outs, and it makes the people paying the bills for them understandably angry. There are times to help, and times to say no; but our government has never been able to tell the difference.

It's not a matter of better or worse people, it's a matter of not using others to fund your ideas, not making unsound ideology more important that wise management, not doing things that harm the quality of life or the opportunity for all.

Government should take a clue from nature. It's done great for millions of years, until we came along. What we call managing natural resources is more restraining our abuse than fixing anything. IF we wanted to do something good (applies in a lot of areas) the best thing to do would be to butt out, get the hell out of the way. Government should not involve itself in anything not absolutely necessary for the good of the nation and people.

Look up the sources of funding for most major projects; environmental, etc. While there will be many more contributions from average people- the bulk of the revenue comes from wealthy people who want to give back, leave a legacy- cause changes, rather than just sustain people who generate little and change nothing. Bill Gates, Warren Buffet for example have both willed the bulk of their fortunes to those kind of causes. Gates foundation has been active this way for a long time and invested huge amount of money to help others.

Part of the question can be stated by asking which is the wiser choice- to subsidize a person living in a sub-standard world, or improve the world around him and thus permanently improve the quality of life they may attain?

Profit isn't like welfare. Zero guarantees, and none of the sales that produce profit are coerced or forced; the customer come to the sellers, and are paying what they decide is an acceptable price.
People need to understand profit is not some kind of rip-off, and businesses are not social service agencies there to subsidize them. Profit drives innovation, invention, progress, expansion, growth, jobs and all the things that create a healthy economy, that benefits everyone To think otherwise is to be extremely short-sighted, and a lot of people are.