Revisiting The Waco Massacre...

Even if they had taken Koresh out in the town the man had still armed his cult to the teeth. They were inspired by him to fight this fight and there's no way it would have ended peacefully.

The government screwed up in many ways but there was probably no way to avoid this outcome. Koresh had brainwashed his people for this action.

 

Source?

 

Well the leader of the ATF never raped a girl so how would there be a source for that?

The lack of a source or any court cases proves the point that he never did it.

The ATF also didn't set the firebombs so how would you find a source saying that. Its like asking for a source that a giant UFO didn't land on the complex. Well it didn't happen so it wouldn't be reported anywhere.

 

Source?
Proof?

 

Source?

Did Randy Weavers' wife and son commit suicide or were they murdered by the government?

 

Really? Do you know nothing about this case?

Do yourself a favor and google WACO and read up on it. Koresh got the ATF there because of his weapon binge but specifically purchasing 50,000 dollars worth of weapons from an ATF agent.

 

You're dodging.
Prove there were firebombs.
Prove they committed suicide.
Prove he raped 12 year old girls.

 

ahhh..at least you admit he was set up by the government. Entrapment?
...but you choose to "believe" the government version of the story. Interesting.
You work for the government, don't you, officer?

 

Look at the tape. You will notice the entire complex goes up almost instantly. This can only happen with pre-placed charges. You notice nothing fired into the complex from the government forces at the instant of ignition meaning that it had to come from inside. I highly doubt that ATF agents snuck into a fully armed force and planted these charges without anyone knowing.

Surviviors have testified that these charges were placed by the davidians in order to not be captured. Not sure what more you want.

 

They were killed by the government and it was a tragedy that didn't need to happen.

Waco was totally different.

 

"Attempt"? 75 people were killed by the government. There's NO PROOF that they committed suicide or started the fires themselves.

What "actions"?

 

Finally some truth.

 

Prove they set the fires.
The government can't even prove it.

 

Care to show me how the government started them. I see no troops with flamethrowers or incendiary bombs being launched. I see no napalm being dropped from planes.

Are you suggesting the quietly stormed the complex, which was armed with 200,00 dollars worth of weapons, and planted the charges?

You explain to me how the goverment logically set the place ablaze and I will listen.

 

Well, officer, everyone knows the armored vehicles knocked through the walls and were firing tear gas canisters...Maybe the propane tank inside got ruptured and the tear gas grenades set it off...maybe fuel they had stored inside got spilled during the tank assault...
You have NO PROOF of rape or suicide or even them starting the fires themselves...all you have is what your government TOLD you happened.

 

That wouldn't set the whole complex up in flames simultaneously i'm afraid. Fires would have started in isolated places and spread. That's not what happened.

Watch the video of it and its obvious the fire is ignited from inside before any canisters hit. As soon as the forces started moving in the complex goes up.

 

Source?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/us/growing-up-under-koresh-cult-children-tell-of-abuses.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

You can find plenty of testimony from the children themselves, as well as previous cult members and survivors from that day if your interested.

This is not even a debatable issue.

 

There are pictures of one of the tanks shooting fire into the buildings.

We really don't need pictures of what they did, because they do these kind of things around the world, and they've been following this format since Lincoln and Marx started their Communist Revolution in 1861:

"We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies." Union Gen. Sherman

Then there's Albright saying that starving 500,000 Iraqi kids was "worth the price."

This is the kind of guy that US officials really love:


http://royalamericaninstituteforworldpeace.org/

 

Would you possibly care to share with us the picture of a tank setting the buildings ablaze.

 

Speculation.

So these people were ready to shoot it out with the atf..and they DID...with great success ...but suddenly they decided it was better to burn to death than to surrender or continue to fight?
Careful, officer, or you'll pull a muscle twisting facts and jumping to conclusions.

 

Exactly. They were brainwashed by Koresh to have a "final battle" and they did. Once the government forces started moving in they were not going to be taken alive and set there complex on fire as a last act.

This is all well documented.

 

The fiasco ended badly because of the incompetent Clinton relying of the decision making of the butchy Janet Reno. Several days before, Koresh could have been easily apprehended, but the feds wanted to exert their authority.

 

There is thing right there, evidence go look it up if the ATF did not fire the first shot why were the dogs killed? Furthermore, what happened to the steel front door that evidence was miss placed and would not have burned in the fire. Also it is proven fact Lon Horiuchi was one of the snipers at Waco, why does this name matter? He was the jerk that shot a mother at Ruby Ridge, the ATF reported there was no sniper fire yet there were shell casing found at the scene. Also the gas they used coupled with the flash bangs were highly flamable and toxic. Most of the children died from inhaling it thats why thier back were bent 90 degrees the wrong way. I suggest if you are so intrested go look it up yourself. The ATF had no business doing what they did. I am against almost all conspiracy theories, however this raid stinks to high heaven.

 

The testimonies from the sheriff in town and the few survivors paints a different story. Why do you believe the ATF?