Riddle me this Vaxman

How is it possible to claim the wonderfully successful vax numbers when its impossible for us to know how many unvaxed people had covid, got over it, and never entered it in to any public record?

We could have had 50 million people that had covid, got over it, and never reported it, never counted toward the unvaxed survival stats.

So what I want to know is what math are the vaxers using to account for records never made?

People were even told to stay home until they needed a ventilator.

In addition how many healthy people got vaxed that would have gotten over it without a vax?

What does this do to the vaxed v unvaxed efficacy numbers? Skew comes to mind.....

 

It's not possible.

And honestly, how is it possible to claim much of anything with regard to COVID when the COVID data is so dishonestly collected and manipulated to begin with?

Bingo.

They aren't using any. They are just making **** up.

Nearly every single healthy person who got vaxed.

Skew.

 

This info doesn't sell pharma products. If you want sell injections, recruit politicians and their followers. It is amazing how many people are willing to sell this product for no pay. They don't even get a rolling suitcase full of free pens to give away like most pharma salespeople!

 

You can always tell when ya hit a bulls eye!

When Vaxers run for cover!

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A little thing called statistics.

It is true that not everyone who gets COVID will (A) display symptoms if infected, (B) get tested to see if they have caught it (C) have been vaccinated. Point is though America is large place and that means a large (huge) sample size for medical statisticians and epidemiologists to work with. And it is a universal truth of the laws of statistics that the larger your sample size the more accurate your predictions.

Scientists already know (approximately) what % of the population (by age range) will be symptom-less (positive tests tell them) . They know how many people have been vaccinated. They know how many people have been tested (in round figures) and the number of positive tests (amongst both the vaccinated and unvaccinated population). Knowing all that they can use maths and computer modelling to answer all all your questions allowing for a margin of error in their answers.

Isn't science wonderful.

 

nice try but all you are describing is voodoo science based on tainted data and heavily shaded by political expediency. this is not science. a "best guess" is not science. science is a method of testing, retesting and then retesting again. science is about careful observation, not extrapolating from a tainted pool of "random" subjects.

 

Voodoo science?. The science is rock solid. The fact you think it isn't only shows the depth of your ignorance. The data used in the analysis of statistics can potentially be incomplete or inaccurate which is why margins of error are always included in proper statistical analysis. That said statistics is foundation to quantum mechanics, computer science, astronomy, nuclear physics, medicine, climatology, geology you name they use it. Its admissible as evidence in a court of law and used everyday by banks, financial markets, business and governments for a host of purposes.

But then you obviously 'know' better. You don't actually offer any evidence or proof to support your claims that the data on COVID is 'tainted' BTW. It just is because you read it on the internet and its suits your prejudices to believe what you read on some conspiracy forum. I'll let MENSA know your application for membership is in the mail.

 

~ It now has become obvious the CDC makes the statistics say what they prefer to fit the agenda narrative — more shots .
The fiasco continues ... ` ? ?

 

That is a rather snarky reply.

CDC statistics have no idea how many people in the US have been infected with Covid.

 

you're too late. i've already refused membership in mensa, believing that it was beneath me. when your iq places you firmly in the 95th percentile mensa is a bit of a yawn. as for tainted data - just take a look in news from around the world. when the number of fatalities with multiple comorbidities threatens to outnumber those without it it starts to become rather obvious that "dying from covid" could easily include everything from motorcycle accidents to natural causes. when "margins of error" become incalculable the few who bother to think outside of the meager gruel handed out by "authority" must doubt the conclusions of bureaucrats and their ignorant minions. when the "rock solid" science is based on unverifiable variables it is only a fool that would entrust the future of humanity to the powers that be.

i have no use for conspiracy forums. instead, i read the news. i ignore the conclusions fed to today's wanna-be woodwards and bernsteins, but i do collect the facts. yes, this is a nasty bug. however, the majority of fatalities are among the aged and the ill and the worst places to be are where healthcare is sub-par by american standards. we live in a world where the infirm are kept alive by the slimmest of margins, but no one bothers to takes this into account when tallying up the dead. of those that are hospitalized, how many really need to be there? there is no metric available for that. after all, hospitals are run on monetary gain and putting someone on supplemental oxygen is far more lucrative than sending them home to wait it out. then we have the unwashed masses. how many of them wouldn't know life threatening symptoms from a case of the croup and how may of them will insist that their insurance pay to reassure them that all is well with the world? the variables go on and on and i haven't even begun to cover the corruption and malfeasance that is an everyday occurrence within the hallowed halls of scientific endeavor. are you starting to get a clue yet?

 

OK if you say so. It must (all) be true.

Just don't use big words like 'co-morbidity' if you not astute enough to realize why such things actually matter in medicine and epidemiology. They matter with respect to all diseases and medicines known to mankind from botulism to thrush. Again its called science. Learn some.

Now go back to your basement and do more 'research'.

 

we just need to look at hospital counts, are most people vaxed or not, being admitted with Covid

 

we pre-ordered the vaccine doses, so they got their money if you get the shot or not

 

~ Yes indeed. Better to hang in internet forums with the intellectuals . '

 

... of which you don't understand.

Correct. However, if (A) is the case, then one is not sick to begin with. With regard to (B), there's no reason for one to get tested for a disease that one does not have, let alone show symptoms for.

Depends on how one defines "large". It is a subjective word.

Yes, huge is indeed a synonym for large.

Most epidemiology is useless hocus pocus or otherwise insignificant.

Incorrect. Statistics does NOT have the power of prediction. It is a summarization tool only (for past and present events).

No they don't.

No they don't.

No they don't.

No they can't.

It is, but you don't even know what it is, let alone how it works. Same with mathematics, given your above-mentioned positions.

 

IOW, not science at all.

Correct. And as you very well know with regard to mathematics, crap in equals crap out.

Bingo. It's not even statistical mathematics. It's just hocus pocus.

Correct.

In part, yes. That's what I would call the "external consistency" part of science.

In part, yes.

Science, as a whole, is quite simply "a set of falsifiable theories"... or IOW, "a set of falsifiable models that predict nature". That is all that science is.

 

That is a beautiful answer and I love it! Basic statistics can tell us this.

 

I'm pretty sure I had covid twice (once during second wave, once omicron), both times after I was vaccinated. Didn't get tested, just isolated, as we should do whenever we are sick.

 

Yes, or IOW not science at all.

The Science™ is not science.

The ignorance is yours, namely with regard to science and statistical mathematics.

Wonderful. And?

He does. So do I.

COVID related data IS very tainted. Here is a short write-up by a forum buddy of mine specifically about the issues behind how COVID deaths are being counted:

https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/78/covid-19-deaths-debunked

Also check out my own write-up regarding the Cult of the Mask to learn about how the whole COVID tyranny nonsense is not actually about health but is rather a scam that is about government control and dominance over the lives of their citizenry:

https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/68/cult-mask

Yes, I realize that you mindlessly use the word 'conspiracy' to refer to anything that you disagree with. Even if something WERE a conspiracy theory, conspiracy theories ARE at times later found to be true. It was once a "conspiracy theory" that 'two weeks to flatten the curve' would turn into prolonged mandated mask wearing, mandated vaccinations, and vaccination passport/digital ID systems. Guess what, that ain't a "conspiracy" anymore...

Don't quit your day job to become a comedian.

 

So we pre-ordered a dose for every American every 6 months for the rest of their lives? You are right about getting their money. That was the point.

 

we give the extra to other countries when they about to expire, we will keep buying as long as so many still have not taken, just in case they choose to do so

 

That is one sweet government contract!

 

Why should we be subsidizing vaccinations for other countries (via buying more than we need) when we are over $30T in debt ourselves?

 

Government wins.
Big Harma wins.
Wall Street wins.

Main Street LOSES.
The middle class working man LOSES.

 

~ It is more a feeble attempt at mind control. This entire fiasco is an experiment in social engineering .
Whenever the "experts " speak I think of this:

" You can fool all of the people some of the time .. " ​

I believe at this point the western governments have run out of time .