RINO Defeated! Lugar Loses GOP US Senate Primary Challenge in Indiana

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  1. thediplomat2.0

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    I am certain he would. His ideological spine is as fragile as a glass vase. Still, that does not invalidate my analysis of his term as Massachusetts governor nor of his foreign policy rhetoric on the campaign. Ironically, Romney was quite the Keynesian as a governor. His economic rhetoric has hinted at his Keynesian nature. Lastly, he is clearly a neoconservative on foreign policy. I cannot remember the last time the Republican Party had a general election candidate that did not forward such an ideology on geopolitical relations. Herbert Hoover rings a bell of one opposed to an interventionist foreign policy.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Barry Goldwater.

    However, as 911 taught those of us bothering to pay attention, that we CANNOT ISOLATE OURSELVES from our enemies,and it is FAR BETTER to fight them in Kandahar than in Brooklyn.
     
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    America invents its own enemies.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't get it. We don't care what you say. All that bloviation about some rhetoric you seem to think you know about is just academic falderal.

    I want an interventionist foreign policy. The best place to play the game of war is on the other guys field. They take most of the damage that way. And if you don't think we are in a war with Islam and the remnants of communism you need a reality check.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh horse(*)(*)(*)(*). This war has been going on since before the United States was a fledgling colony. You just don't recognise the fact.
     
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    thediplomat2.0 Banned

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    Great, then Mitt Romney is your man. The War on Islam and Communism will be his main foreign policy focus, one that he will carry out through nation-building and military action galore. He will epitomize an adversarial mindset that has plagued United States geopolitical relations for decades.
     
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    Dude stop already, I already plan on voting for Romney I need no more convincing, enough now.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If we can get this done without having to appease *******s and conduct war like war should be conducted, it won't cost us that much at all. YOU MUST make the enemy fear you and their death more than their masters wrath. It must be the shock and awe forever. The Japanese do not even think about war any more. Nor do the Germans. You don't win a war by putting the scum back into power. You don't win a war by saying "please can we do this".

    That's what made Vietnam so stupid. *******s going mushy about killing the enemy.
     
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    I am a firm believer in a strong military and the utilization of shock and awe (such as when GWB tested the MOAB to force the Iraqi military to stand down before our soldiers invaded). However, I am completely opposed to the sacrificing of Americans abroad in the name of forwarding our interests. Any interest that we may have in the future can be imposed upon another nation without boots on the ground or planes in the air in foreign territory.

    Take for example the Iranian nuclear issue. Lets say Iran is proven to be without a doubt creating a nuclear weapon. If so, it would not be necessary for the United States to engage in a bombing campaign on their facilities. Israel would likely do this for us.

    Instead, a fatal flaw in Iran's economy can be exploited very easily, inflation. Iran currently suffers from 9 percent inflation. The United States could lift all economic sanctions upon Iran, and signed a free trade agreement with the Ahmadinejad regime that requires that the Iranian rial be linked to the dollar. In doing so, our greatest tool of destruction against their nation would not be bunker busting bombs, but printing press hyperinflation

    While the United States dollar should not be used as part of what is called a currency war, a new dollar linked to the rial, completely independent of our domestically used currency will be employed. The currency will be solely used as an economic weapon of mass destruction. The Federal Reserve will secretly engage in printing money at an unprecedented amount, almost with the mindset to finance a major government deficit. As the currency devalues, the Iranian government will be forced to initiate a massive increase in its money supply to maintain its currency peg. In turn, the rial will inflate tremendously.

    One might think this would have no effect upon Iran, but consider this. When the Federal Reserve engaged in quantitative easing, both Egypt and China, two nations that have currencies dependent upon the state of the United States dollar, saw increases in their inflation rates. In Egypt in particular, such inflation was considered a primary issue that led to the protests that eventually toppled the Mubarak regime.

    Consequently, I would expect a major revolution to occur in Iran if inflation on a gargantuan scale ensued. With Israel on the offensive, Ahmadinejad and the Ayatollah would be easily overthrown. A reinvigorated Green Movement would be a success.
     
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    And you are so convinced of the Iranians blindness that they would agree to this plan of yours with the Great Satan? Get real dude. That was pure leftist fantasy land wierd.
     
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    Commies Gotta Go !!!
     
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    LOL tea party is decisively defeated. How does this make you feel Grok knowing your thread was all wrong.
     
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    So, Indiana tea party -- how did that booting-the-RINOs thing work out for you?
     
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    These "Tea Party" buffoons will be jetisoned from the GOP like the load of manure they are...Bachman barely held onto her seat in congress and a bevy of teabag loonies were also dismissed this round...In 2014 unless the GOP rids itself of these nit wits in the primary they will be pummeled back into pre Gingrich obscurity...It is time for the GOP to start acting like adults if they ever want to be taken seriously again...I long for the days when guys like Pete McClusky and Paul Lindsay were on the house floor and Alan Simpson, Barry Goldwater and Everett Dirkson were in the Senate...
     
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    Funny how you're absent today.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Bachmann is still there and so is Ryan. He's still a congressman you know. Your logic is lacking in substance. Obama got 9 million fewer votes than last time. The only reason he won was that Romney got 2.5 million less than McCain did last time, and still picked up two states. What does that say about your wunderkind?
    It says to me that two mediocre candidates can maintain the status quo.
     
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    Gotta love people in denial. Please don't change. You're doing a great service to your country by guaranteeing continued GOP failure. I love the TParty!

    The reality is that the GOP has been hijacked by the radical right wing of the party and it, thankfully, isn't viable anymore in this country. You lost gimme senate races by electing extremists, who folks like yourself LOVED, but normal, rational Americans saw as a joke. You lost 8 congressional seats. You lost the Presidential election to a very vulnerable sitting President.

    What was so amusing waste way the entire right wing, including the campaign itself, rather than looking at the polling data and adjusting their tactics, instead declared all that data invalid! Denial! The facts aren't the facts. LOL!

    The facts are the facts.

    Now, let's hope the GOP leadership grows up and gets on board with governing or gets the hell outta way for people who will.
     
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    How is this a current even Sid? please tell.
     
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    Sorry Mike, I know it hurts but the election is still a current event.
     
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    We have just a little under two years now to the next election, so this is still a current event. Let the gloating continue! Really glad to see the tea party lost some ground and now has no idea what to do to regain relevancy. I had posted about a segment I saw on C-span yesterday with some leaders of the conservative and tea party movement speaking. Even they said they need to reach out to Hispanics to ever have a chance of winning nationally again by proposing immigration reform. The reaction here from our right wing posters was screw that and them if they think that. So the future looks bleak for the right and thats a very good outcome for America.:flagus:
     
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    We'll get Donnelley next time.

    We did elect a full slate of Tea Party-approved guys to the House in Indiana. Only in the Democrat strongholds of Gary and Center Township of Marion county did the Dems win. Not everybody is a natural candidate like Ronald Reagan. In 2014 there will be some candidate training about keeping your mouth shut about abortion. Stick to the central Tea Party agenda of less taxation, less spending, and less government and shove a sock in everything else. You can't go wrong.

    Better to have real Dem win than a RINO. We know Donnelley for the scoundrel he is and he better watch his mouth. By 2018, maybe he won't have a friendly MSM to protect him.
     
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    Lugar losing an election months and months ago is not a current event.
     
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    Sure. Why not? Thanks for dislodging Lugar for us. Joe Donnelly (D) is gonna enjoy that seat. Anyone else you want to help us out with?
     
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    Well, considering that Lugar was Obama's favorite Republican, and voted as such, it did not make a difference. It was only about the balance of power, but one Republican would not have made a difference. Lugar wouldn't even support Mourdock, so it just shows you he is a true RINO.
     

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