Well ... it is strange that this is really happening in many countries where the right wingers / right wing populists gained power. Hungary, Poland, Turkey, Brazil ... and the USA?
Not strange at all. That quote by Tommy Douglas is spot-on. The left is running scared. This is especially obvious in the USA; where the left is coming up with one attack after another against our democratic institutions.
Lol ... so you defend bastards like Orban, Erdogan, Morawiecki etc. and their criminal acts to eleminate constitution ... because only, they are righties? OK ... I'm foreigner and not American ... but I find your accusation against the lefties, as well as this general and stupid "evil lefty" chatter, quite ridiculous. This is particularly true if the White House is currently home to the most un-American president of all time, who lies and deceives his people almost every day. As a foreigner, that would not really matter to me, because the US is not my country. But unfortunately, Bastard at White House has been doing that with my and many other countries as well. If I had anything to say, he would get an entry ban on us as an unwanted person ... whether he is officially US President or not.
How do you explain the American left's widespread assault on our democratic ideals, if not fear? I actually don't know more than the barest facts about those other countries. But the circumstances appear to parallel ours. Here, the left has temporarily lost power and are rioting, assaulting, attacking our democratic institutions and freedoms at all levels. They don't even pretend about it anymore.
The 14 elements of Fascism are posted below. Thanks to checks and balances Trump is not there yet, but he's headed in that direction. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. Supremacy of the Military Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. Rampant Sexism The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy. Controlled Mass Media Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. Obsession with National Security Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. Religion and Government are Intertwined Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. Corporate Power is Protected The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. Labor Power is Suppressed Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed . Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. Obsession with Crime and Punishment Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. Fraudulent Elections Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. Link Trump's disdain for a free press, human rights, peaceful transfer of power following elections and obsession with crime and punishment are just a few of his attributes that clearly fall into the Fascist realm. Besides being an embarrassment for America his sycophantic relationship with despots is indicative of his extreme approach.
These platforms sound exactly like the platforms used by Roosevelt and cronies to get American boys, (white boys. the Hispanics weren't drafted and neither were blacks) all fired up to fight a war after they promised during the elections that we wouldn't enter the war. It was ok to be patriotic and nationalistic back then, and to use slogans meant to induce patriotism. The globalist and dumbass Bush used patriotism and nationalism to get Americans fired up about going to war in Iraq. You can bet they will use these platforms again when the next big war starts. This time let's insist that Hispanics and blacks get drafted.
Not all conservatives are the ignorant, backwards, uneducated people you make them out to be. Just like not all the constituents of Hank Johnson are as dumb as rocks. Prolific readers, everyone of them I'm sure.
More backwards-world nonsense. Trump is not showing disdain for the so-called free press. He's shining a spotlight on their misdeeds. Far foo much of the press are propagandists. There are no examples of Trump having disdain for human rights. It's unbelievable that you would even try to accuse Trump of holding disdain for the peaceful transfer of power. We're supposed to believe that Trump is secretly behind The Resistance; which is writing an entire new book on unpeacefully blocking the transition of power? This is the height of absurdity. There are no signs of fascist leanings in Trump. The left and many Democrats, however, have certainly adopted many fascist tactics. They scream and lie about Trump; all the while aided by their propagandists in the press. They accuse Trump of doing things that he doesn't do, but are exactly what they do.
How about promoting an absurd hoax for the purpose of overthrowing an election? How about staging riots for the purpose of eliminating our rights of free public discourse? How about the swarming and harassment of public officials? How about the constant abuse of our legal system for the purpose of blocking the pursuit of policies which the voters want? How about the fact that Democrats now have, as established policy, abuse of their givernmental authority to harass the elected President and his staff? How about the fact that Democrats have established the policy of abusing Sunate rules for the purpose of blocking the elected President from filling staff positions? How about physically assaulting people for the purpose of political intimidation?
FoxHastings said: ↑ Thank you. Describes Trump and his "administration" perfectly. Obviously you couldn't refute one word
Obviously, you don't bother to read my posts. http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/road-to-fascism.554248/page-5#post-1070536690
Well ... If the loser of the Election has about 2.5 million more votes than the winner, then the electoral system is just crap ... Imagine that it would have been the other way round ... and do not tell me you silently accepted everything. I am not a recipient for fairy tales! Which Democrat politician of importance has ever considered this as good and defended it? Only idiots and unimportant politicians, of whom hardly anyone has heard before. And vice versa ... what had been the same in Charlottesville, eh? Do not come to me with the fairy tale that the evil lefties started, this claim has been refuted for a long time! Never done by the extreme righties ... of course. And that this is sometimes also a question of action and reaction is also untrue, I know! Majority of voters? Examples please! Cause and effect ... if the president with his outrageous behavior really begs for this to happen, sorry .... please accuse the Jerk in the White House! Lol ... am I to seriously enumerate how many times a Republican majority has hindered a Democratic president? And if you are specifically to this superfluous and idiotic wall to Mexico, sorry ... the Senate has also as a task to protect the American people from stupidity of the President! Can it be that you are somehow blind in the "right eye", that you only see such actions of the lefties? Sorry, the righties do the same! <<<MOD EDIT: FIXED QUOTE BRACKET >>
Imagine that it would have been the other way round ... and do not tell me you silently accepted everything. I am not a recipient for fairy tales! Only idiots and unimportant politicians, of whom hardly anyone has heard before. Do not come to me with the fairy tale that the evil lefties started, this claim has been refuted for a long time! Never done by the extreme righties ... of course. And that this is sometimes also a question of action and reaction is also untrue, I know! Majority of voters? Examples please! Lol ... am I to seriously enumerate how many times a Republican majority has hindered a Democratic president? "Well ... If the loser of the Election has about 2.5 million more votes than the winner, then the electoral system is just crap ... Imagine that it would have been the other way round ... and do not tell me you silently accepted everything. I am not a recipient for fairy tales!" Er... WUT??!? Are you arguing that, since you disagree with our process, you support the overthrow of our President? "Which Democrat politician of importance has ever considered this as good and defended it? Only idiots and unimportant politicians, of whom hardly anyone has heard before. And vice versa ... what had been the same in Charlottesville, eh? Do not come to me with the fairy tale that the evil lefties started, this claim has been refuted for a long time!" You might benefit by going back and rereading my post. http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/road-to-fascism.554248/page-5#post-1070536387 Not all leftists are Democrat politicians. As for the rest of this snippet, I can't figure it out.
"Well ... If the loser of the Election has about 2.5 million more votes than the winner, then the electoral system is just crap ... Imagine that it would have been the other way round ... and do not tell me you silently accepted everything. I am not a recipient for fairy tales!" Er... WUT??!? Are you arguing that, since you disagree with our process, you support the overthrow of our President? "Which Democrat politician of importance has ever considered this as good and defended it? Only idiots and unimportant politicians, of whom hardly anyone has heard before. And vice versa ... what had been the same in Charlottesville, eh? Do not come to me with the fairy tale that the evil lefties started, this claim has been refuted for a long time!" You might benefit by going back and rereading my post. http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/road-to-fascism.554248/page-5#post-1070536387 Not all leftists are Democrat politicians. As for the rest of this snippet, I can't figure it out.[/QUOTE] Ehm ... I have to leave now for today .. so in short answered, sorry. Which 2.5 million more votes? Did Hillary officially get 2.5 million more votes as Trump and was still the looser due to the electoral system of the US? Yes!
Mussolini was a socialist but never a communist . He became a Fascist at about the same time Lenin was formulating communism When was Hitler a liberal? I think you're quoting out of context again, something the Nazis did almost as policy and was great strength of theirs as it made them seem to be all things to everyone when they actually had very little of a consistent ideology or policies at all. If there is anything really liberal in Mein Kampf i must have overlooked it, though Hitler did have high praise for America in more than one aspect.
By being corrupt and committing crimes? Ignoring ethical standards? Ignoring lawful subpoenas? Preventing testimony to oversight committees? Lying their arses off about everything? Being derelict in his duty as commander in chief? for starters.
Not all of them at the same time so I guess trump wins bigly there as well. Boy how great is america, eh?
