Roll Tide!!!

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    no gloating

    I will once again say the same thing and it sounds like a broken record. If these programs want to be anything but the sacrificial lamb at the SEC altar every year then they had best do something about playing teams which can challenge them during the regular season.

    I kept quiet as I heard all about the vaunted ND defense because they had not yet faced an elite SEC team. Think about it. We were 5 yards away from that being the Dawgs who would have beat ND instead of the Tide. That says something about the Dawgs as a team.

    Overall the bowl season for the SEC was disappointing. Les Miles probably wishes he had the game back so he could change calls.

    Muskrat was served humble pie and he needed it in order for the Gators program to move ahead

    MS State.......well, is there really anything more to say

    but, 6 of 9 victories isn't that bad for a conference

    7 BCS games, 7 victories by the SEC.

    If you want to lift heavy weights in January then you had best practice lifting those weights in Aug, Sep, Oct and Nov.

    Once again, the SEC has shown its dominance but the formula isn't hard. The question is are other schools willing to do what is needed to improve?

    My hat is off to A+M and Mizzou because they took the bold step and their programs as well as the SEC will be better for their joining.
     
  2. Albert Di Salvo

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    Congratulations to Alabama and the SEC.

    However, neither Notre Dame nor Stanford can compete at the same level as the best SEC teams on a consistent basis. They don't have the same talent pool available to them.
     
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    If this had happened next year, Alabama would have had to play Oregon in a playoff. I'd loved to have seen that game.

    Until Notre Dame competes in a major conference like the SEC, ACC or PAC10, they shouldn't waste our BCS championship games any more. They were clearly not ready for the big time.
     
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    Congrats to Alabama and Tide fans. Not sure what the heck the game plan was last night for ND though.

    I assume the Ohio State University has all of your endorsements as Political Forums NCAA National Champion? ;)
     
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    Embarrasing game to say the least...but to credit Notre Dame, the student-athletes are held to high academic standards and can't devote the year long dedication to the sport as other "student-athletes" who are there pretty much to play football.

    Either way, Alabama deserves the #1 status. Notre Dame was not prepared at all.

    I would have preferred an Oregon v. Alabama national championship, but it was not meant to be.

    I look for Texas A&M to challenge the usual SEC teams for dominance next year..even with Alabama as the pre-season favorite.

    Johnny Football is the real deal.

    Oregon will be back next year also.
     
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    I don't think joining a conference would help Notre Dame. The academic standards imposed on ND's football players prevents the Irish from having a big enough talent pool.
     
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    here we go again

    7 straight years the SEC was given the best there was out there. Auburn was the closest to actually losing. But, for 7 straight years the SEC has shown itself as being the premier conference. If the nighty O wants to be national champ then either

    A: they go to church each Sunday and pray that the SEC kicks the crap out of each other and each team has 2 losses

    B: get some games with some serious teams who are big, powerful and fast......you know, like in the SEC

    If you want to beat that kind of team then you had best play some games against them

    2011 LSU vs Oregon is an example of what the mighty O would face.

    I am sick to death of hearing........oh, if they played OSU or Oregon blah blah. 7 championships in a row; give the conference the respect it deserves
     
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    The vaunted SEC is a sham propped up by the sham that is the BCS. Notre Dame is not one of the 5 best teams in the country, let alone the 2 best. Alabama similarly wasn't the best team in the country either. That honor would go to Texas A&M, and Oregon is at least as good. The lack of a playoff makes most of the National Championships won by the SEC in this run suspect at best. They have won too many title games against overrated midwestern teams, who played schedules which led them to undefeated records, but didn't have the real quality required.

    USC was more deserving in 2008. Alabama clearly deserved it in 2009 and Auburn in 2010, but Alabama should never have gotten a rematch last year. So this streak will become legitimate once they win the title through a legitimate process. The 4 team playoff is a good start, but a real 8 team playoff is what is actually needed, because otherwise the best team at the end of the year(Texas A&M) would have been kept out because they lost two early games.
     
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    You mean like Mississipi State losing to a Big ten team that hadn't won a bowl since 1949? Florida losing to Louisville? South Carolina nearly losing to a 5 loss big ten team? Georgia being played close by a Nebraska team that got absolutely destroyed in the Big Ten championship game? Alabama got lucky in playing a highly overrated Notre Dame team, and not a much better Oregon team.
     
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    Its obvious that the Irish were not ready and it is also obvious that the SEC is the best conference in the country. But over the years these things can change. Notre Dame may have arrived at the game a year early...who knows?

    I honestly don't think Bama will be in the Championship game next year. As it stands right now it could be Texas A&M and maybe Stanford or Oregon. But once again who knows??? Notre Dame could go undefeated next year also. I think the Irish will get better.

    Ohio state could be the next SEC whipping boy. Or they could break the hold the SEC has on the big game.
     
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    and I offer to you, yet another blah blah post

    7 straight championships. I'm not asking you to like it. But you can't deny it; deal with it

    I agree the BCS system is a sham. OSU, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma and now ND were all led to believe that they stood a chance against the SEC team. The students got their hopes up, they paid good money to travel to the game. The players got their hopes up and I don't blame the schools for any of that. The current system misled them to believe that they belong on the field with the SEC champion.

    The mighty O got 2 bites at the SEC apple. The BCS championship and then the next fall against LSU. It didn't work out too well for them.

    So, go and hate all that you want. There are 7 BCS championship trophies (well actually 6 because one broke) in SEC trophy cases

    If you need something to bellyache about then make it the Rose Bowl which has become a joke. Oregon vs A+M would have been a better Rose Bowl but it has to be a Big 10 school
     
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    and I offer to you, yet another blah blah post

    7 straight championships. I'm not asking you to like it. But you can't deny it; deal with it

    I agree the BCS system is a sham. OSU, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma and now ND were all led to believe that they stood a chance against the SEC team. The students got their hopes up, they paid good money to travel to the game. The players got their hopes up and I don't blame the schools for any of that. The current system misled them to believe that they belong on the field with the SEC champion.

    The mighty O got 2 bites at the SEC apple. The BCS championship and then the next fall against LSU. It didn't work out too well for them.

    So, go and hate all that you want. There are 7 BCS championship trophies (well actually 6 because one broke) in SEC trophy cases

    If you need something to bellyache about then make it the Rose Bowl which has become a joke. Oregon vs A+M would have been a better Rose Bowl but it has to be a Big 10 school
     
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    I am just glad I didn't pay 8,000 dollars to see that whippin....can you imagine???

    A lot of it was Bamas depth on defence they just kept fresh players on the field. I also think Bama put grease on the running backs. The Irish defence just slipped right off them! I went to bed early in the third quarter...couldn't take no more.
     
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    Jesus, that was a beating. I almost felt sorry for them.

    That being said, I watched until halfway through the 3rd quarter, and after that there was little point,
     
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    You sound slightly ridiculous starting your posts writing blah blah blah!! As I said, they have 7 straight titles from an illegitimate system. When the system is legitimate it will mean something, otherwise most of those titles are just paper crowns!!
     
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    it's because your posts are blather. 7 straight titles. Give it up man. You can cite the system but frankly, the opponents did nothing to prepare for facing the SEC champion. If you are going to face the best darn team in the nation then prepare for it.

    At the end of the day, the title proves Bama is once again the best in the land. Next year it may well be the Dawgs or even A+M. It will not be Muskrat's team and until Les finds a good QB it won't be LSU
     
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    it's because your posts are blather. 7 straight titles. Give it up man. You can cite the system but frankly, the opponents did nothing to prepare for facing the SEC champion. If you are going to face the best darn team in the nation then prepare for it.

    At the end of the day, the title proves Bama is once again the best in the land. Next year it may well be the Dawgs or even A+M. It will not be Muskrat's team and until Les finds a good QB it won't be LSU
     
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    I was in a chat room where we had good exchanges of ideas about the BCS match. My initial post wasn't about either team's personnel - instead, it was about how if ND was to win, it must deal with coach Lou Sabin for it is he who make the biggest difference in the game's outcome. Turns out I was correct. It is Sabin's remarkable ability to read a team's abilities and his unmatchable skill in making the necessary strategic adjustments which make him and the Tide a winner.

    Bama was defeated by Johnny Football and A & M. Sabin hit the books, made strategic adjustments, and made sure that the Tide would keep winning for the rest of the season. The real championship was between Bama & a highly motivated Georgia Bulldog squad that was loaded for bear (or in this case, elephant). There is no question in my mind why the SEC continues to win: it has the best coaches in the NCAA. Make the necessary strategic adjustments, create a game plan that befuddles the opposition, and you will win. SEC coaches do all that and this is what makes them such winners.


    As for Notre Dame, they, like Stanford and Duke, need to stop giving scholarships to millionaire suburbanites. When they give scholarships based on need, not greed, they will emerge as national champions in football.
     
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    Richt is a good coach and has a talented team as well
     
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    That's ONLY an opinion, not proved. Had Oregon played Bama after they played Notre Dame, then MAYBE it would be fact. This year it's just the coaches poll, and that was proven totally unreal this year. Many of the top ten teams ended unranked at the end of the season. Only a playoff will prove the REAL champ.
     
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    I still don't understand rooting for a conference.

    In any sport.

    Your team is your team...who cares what the other teams do in that shared division, conference or league.

    The SEC is the only conference I can think of that does this...
    Makes no sense to me.

    I can't imagine a St. Louis Cardinals fan ever rooting for the Chicago Cubs (same divison)...or an Ohio State Buckeye rooting for the Michigan Wolverines (same conference)...yet in the SEC the whole fanbase cheers when "one of theirs" wins a Championship...

    It's a strange phenomenon that to my knowledge is unique to the SEC and only in football...
     
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    Then you'll never understand.
     
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    Evidently, you missed the incredibly exciting 1985 NCAA Final Four in which 3 of the 4 finalists were from the Big East. And we just missed having a fourth team in that finale as Memphis state won in the last minute. Students from all four schools were rooting for each other against teams from every other conference. It was the last tournament without a shot clock. What a tournament it was!
     
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    So it turns out the most of the Alabama football team purchased and used IGF-1. Strip them of their National title in 2012 and sanction the hell out of this program.
     
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    Do you have evidence that Alabama players doped in 2012?
     

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