Romney promises energy independence by 2021

Now that is impressive.

Yes, apparently Romney has a plan that will somehow, magically, prevent Americans from buying foreign oil that comes form Venezuela or the Middle East.

Not sure how that is possible, unless of course he restricts the free market or such, but it is boastful.

Also not sure how much this magic gas will cost, but it sure sounds good.

But there is that pesky fact and reality thing.

Oil is an international commodity, and is sold where the price is the highest. Ther eis no way, short of some sort of extreme govenrment regulation, to ensure that the oil produced int he US stays in the US, nor is there any way, short of some extreme government regulation, to prevent oil that originates form elsewhere form being sold int he US.

But, hey, it sounds good.

No word on Romney's website how he plans on pulling off this miracle.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Romney-promises-energy-independence-by-2021-3787401.php



BEALLSVILLE, Ohio (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has promised voters in coal-rich eastern Ohio that America won't have to buy oil from Venezuela or the Middle East by the time his second term ends in 2021.

Romney stopped Tuesday outside a coal mine in Beallsville, where he said the U.S. would be independent from energy sources outside North America if he were elected in November and served two, four-year terms.

Introducing Romney was Josh Mandel, who is running against Democratic Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown. Mandel accused Democrats of trying to stand in the way of using all energy sources.

Mandel says that would happen only, in his words, "over our dead bodies."

Romney was finishing a four-day bus tour with three stops in Ohio.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...ndependence-by-2021-3787401.php#ixzz23Y1kOBKM

 

Sounds good. I'm not sure if he could pull it off either, but I'd love to see him seriously try. And the bonus is he'd need to nix the EPA to do it.

 

A lot of regulations need to go in order to make this happen.

 

sounds like we finally have some leaders here with actual real plans. Not demeaning bs things like saying your going to get locked up in chains or that your grandmother is going to die, or that you killed my wife with her cancer.

 

Maybe Romney plans to put that executive privilege thing to good use for once. He would definitely need more friends in Congress than Paul Ryan to pull it off though. But "insourcing pioneer" wouldn't be a bad title for Romney to have.

 

Interesting.

What is the plan? I would love to hear more about it. I would love to hear how Romney is going to make sure we do not import oil formt he Middle East or Venezuela.

Do you have a link to this plan you tout?

 

It's not magic ... it can be done ... well, sort of ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EVeWllgt_I

 

Well I hope Gov Romney has the formula to inexpensively make gasoline or heating fuel from coal.

 

Even with the oil we could produce if bans were lifted, we have 100's of years of oil in oil shale.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/...ports-shows-us-has-plenty-of-oil-gas-and-coal

 

I see.

So why would I want to by gas made from oil in shale if I could by gas made from oil that was simply drilled? Especially if it is cheaper to by oil from Venezuela or the Middle east?

 

Perhaps Romney is not as stupid as his base, and he wishes to push green energy. After all, if a Republican was president, the GOP congress would instantly flipflop and declare whatever the president wanted was wonderful, even if they hated the exact same thing under Obama. Therefore, Romney could do what Obama couldn't.

 

There are enough gullible rightwingers who'll believe it. Else Sean Hannity wouldn't have an audience.

But he won't make that claim in front of a national audience....Convention or Debates.

 

personally why would we drill our own oil until we can't buy other peoples oil, when they run out, we will have plenty

besides, we let foreign companies like BP drill our oil and then sell it back to us


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It wouldn't be hard to achieve.

1. Put solar on top of all new urban buildings. (offset the costs to the owners with energy payback)
2. Replace older nuclear plants with new ones 2-1. This will more than double power reserves, reduce waste, improve safety, and bring coal emissions down dramatically
3. Natural Gas!!!! We have a ton!!!
4. Fracking - The EPA ruled it to be safe.

We have enough energy to go for well over 100+ years with the above 4 steps.

 

Extracting oil from shale is like trying to squeeze juice out of a frozen lemon. The traditonal method for extracting oil from shale involves large stripmining operations. This is not very efficient and they can create large mumber of health problems, among other things, if these operations occur at or near large population centers. Another method that is less costly is to drill large boreholes, but even this method has its problems.

http://www.technologyreview.com/news/412912/a-cheaper-way-to-draw-oil-from-shale/

 

There is always an excuse not to be energy independent isn't there?

Why do we have so much natural gas? People said the same thing about that.

 

I like the idea of placing solar panels on top of large buildings, but that won't reduce the usage of those building significantly. Additionally, tall skyscrapers might have a problem with installing solar panels, not to mention somce locations such as Seattle, for instance.

Replacing older nuclear fission reactors with new ones might seem like a good idea, however, it isn't cost effective, Your replacement costs would far outweigh any cost saving you have with more efficient models.

Natural gas is one thing, but are you willing to be prepared to pay out the nose to homeowners who property values will suffer when you infringe upon their property.

finally, Fraking might be safe by the EPA, but it does not reduce the risk of extracting oil in harder places to reach. Certain geological pheenomenon prohibit extracting oil in some places even if you decide to frak it.

 

Not an excuse, but to go into something not knowing what in hades you are doing is more dangerous than sending a dozen pyromaniacs with a box of matches into a large building with lots of people. And this is typical of American political style solution. Always half assed with lots of bumper sticker slogans to boot.

 

On the experimental drawing board are air cooled nuclear reactors that will power a city block. Japan is serious about them but I wonder about acceptance. Being air cooled would make the significantly safer. Of course, you can't fill your tank with that.

Shale oil is not the desirable light crude and is more expensive to extract, but the fact is we have enough to supply this country for hundreds of years.

 

He could pull a plan outta his ass that would work better than Obama's did.

 

what a breath of fresh air

a POTUS who is willing to look at everything and that includes ticking off enviro whack jobs

country first; spotted turd flicker goes to the end of the line

 

With shale oil, you have to consider all relevant factors. The reaosn why Canada can do is because their large shalre oil is at least 500 miles from the nearest population center. The US is not that lucky.

Experimental design does show promise, but it is at least 15 years away from being implemented for commercial use.

 

Right now, its all talk and no details and numbers. It sounds good, but the devil is in the details to see if it is viable or not.

 

There is no reason that the government even under Romney should have all the answers to every detail of the private sector.

Exactly where the oil is and how much will be produced under a pro energy policy is an open question.

But the private sector free market will work it out.

Libs should step aside and allow the free market to do what it does best.

Because the pinhead government bureocrats do not have a clue.

 

In the pribate sector, there has already been numerous cost analyst proposals that we are now discussing. Most of them have been discarded for either being too costly, too inefficient, or too risky. But the point I am making is that both government and private enterprise need to work together on this without the usual backrubbing that goes along with the partnership. And when that happens, the next step is tu understand all the risks involved as well as the costs. If that does not happen, which tends to be the nurm, then we as a nation would have accomplished nothing.