Ron Paul campaign did not assist Army probe

Incredible. As a former Air Force officer Ron Paul knows that regulations forbid participating in a political event in uniform. Yet he has a reservist in uniform on stage with him. Then his campaign stonewalls the Army's investigation into the matter.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio.../01/gIQAVkwIuT_story.html?tid=pm_national_pop

 

An unfortunate mistake made by the people on his campaign. I don't know if Ron Paul should or should not have known about this, though. I don't know if there are similar laws for the Air Force. Still a mistake.

But, in the end, it is mainly Thorsen's fault. He should have been the most informed about this issue because he just got off of active duty.

Edit: And this isn't really that big of a deal.

 

What's a "big deal" is that the Army has asked to interview Paul's staffers and the Paul campaign hasn't cooperated..

 

Are they required to answer and accept the interview by law? I'm actually curious because I don't know. If yes, then it is a big deal. If not, then it looks bad for his campaign staff and potentially on his entire campaign as a whole, but it isn't a huge problem.

 

Either way, it's a "big deal." Paul wants to be our C-in-C but he personally abets a violation of regulations then his staff stonewalls a legitimate investigation.

 

it may just be that discussing him as a president has more to do with him and his principles than a campaign mistake...

he isn't your typical politician, so being politically perfect isn't really his cup of tea. i'm more worried about the country than a reservist (lol) in uniform at a rally...

if you really don't like paul, find something a little more substantial that actually pertains to his performance as a president in comparison to the alternatives...political games and rule following aren't going to be necessary qualities in saving this country...it isn't a beauty pageant or talent show, and i'm not the least bit surprised that a guy with goals of sending a positive message, educating young people, and reviving the country, isn't totally attentive to this kind of issue. he's probably focused on more important things...

 

It wasn't a mistake. Paul called him on stage. Then Paul's campaign declined to cooperate with the Army's investigation.

It's another example of Paul's incompetancy and hypocrisy.

Or he's too incompetant to understand that what he did was wrong.

 

If you can't see something wrong with our military picking political sides then your missing something. Sure it was just a reservist but what about tomorrow if we see full regiments out in support of a candidate?

Very dangerous. Paul should know this since he claims to be a Constitutionalist (which he really isn't) and should not have invited this man up while in military dress.

 

Why should they? What possible information could they give the Army about his background?

 

Call the police and tell them to go arrest Ron Paul.

 

But its Ron Paul's staff that is delaying this, not Ron Paul himself. Ron Paul probably has no idea this problem even exists because of how busy he is with elections. So it looks bad on his campaign staff. But... once again, it isn't a big deal. I think you're overreacting a little bit. Mitt has had much more controversial things in his campaign but all of that just gets brushed to the side now that he's leading the GOP nomination. Lol so stop overreacting. (I'm not dismissing the fact that it looks bad, I'm just saying it doesn't look as bad as what you make it out to be).

 

Do you expect me to believe that Paul isn't briefed daily by his staff or that he doesn't read a newspaper? If, and it's a mighty big if, Paul isn't aware of this matter then he isn't managing his staff properly. A repeat of his newsletter mismanagement.

 

Haha I don't care if you believe that or not. Your opinion doesn't matter, at the end of the day...

This won't hurt Ron Paul's campaign in the slightest.

• He is not under any legal obligation to respond
• He will not lose any of his supporters over this
• This is an overreaction
• Although everyone is to blame, Jesse Thorten is the main culprit. He is in the army. He should know the rules better than any campaign staff or Ron Paul (because Jesse is fresh off duty, Dr. Paul was in the Air Force in the 60s I believe).

The end.

 

It's just another demonstration of Paul's hypocrisy and his disdain for the rule of law. If he had any sense of responsibility and duty to his country he'd cooperate with the Army. But no, he didn't. Any other candidate and Paul's supporters would be screaming bloody murder. But of course those who worship Paul are just fine with it.

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i'll take paul's hypocrisy over obama's or romney's.

you want to discuss mistakes involving the military and the constitutional law? how about the wars in iraq and afghanistan that bush started, and that obama and romney both support, that were never declared, and are therefore in direct violation of the constitution?

take a look at the more serious issues here...using military on a public stage, without spending trillions of taxpayer dollars sounds a lot less blasphemous to me, than the uses that obama/romney have for the military.

i like to watch arguments between people, sometimes including arguments i'm in, because it's fun to see how the people that are wrong always pick trivial circumstance and political correctness related points to argue a matter that their efforts barely even target...having a guy in uniform on stage is a problem? who gives a crap? really? i'm more concerned with whether or not he can turn a 180 for this country and get us going away from the cliff that obama and romney would like to see us plunge off of

 

Obviously it's just fine with you that Paul helped violate a military regulation then his campaign purposely stonewalled an investigation into that violation.

And I'd remind you that Paul voted with the majority for the original Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Terrorists in Afghanistan so according to you Paul voted in favor of an unconstitutional act.

 

not all of the military regulations are reasonable. i was in the military myself, and half the rules and regs they have are meaningless and obsolete remnants of old-style military management. it's built from the ground up like a communist totalitarianism for christ's sake...so yea, i'm fine with breaking trivial rules...which this obviously is one. i dont see any real danger of negative consequence resulting from this 'incident'...

also, paul voted in favor of catching terrorists, not nation-building and invasion of iraq. the war isn't what he voted for. he has said many times that our only focus should have been tracking and capturing the group responsible for 9/11. it's only unconstitutional if it is a war undeclared. paul didnt support a war

 

I too served. In Vietnam. You don't pick and chose what regs you obey. And this was not a trivial regulation. And the Paul campaign has an obligation to cooperate with the Army investigation.

Spin it any way you want, Paul supported an unconstitutional war in Afghanistan.

 

You are grasping for straws here pal.

Most people these days support the troops and don't understand why it is such a big deal for one of them to participate in politics.

This has the appearance of Ron Paul protecting a soldier from an unfair rule.

 

Eh, let's be honest with ourselves, not everything Ron Paul does is good. I think what your proposing is a very unlikely case. Just because you don't like the rules doesn't mean you shouldn't obey them, especially with the military.

Jesse Thorten should have been aware of that restriction. Let's just leave it at that because that is one of the only true facts in this issue.

 

The other "true fact" in this matter is that Paul stonewalled an official investigation into this matter. That speaks to his lack of character and lack of respect for the law.

 

who cares? he could be a serial killer and he'd still be better than obama or romney...

 

He should have.

However, perception is reality, and IMO Paul does not look bad by appearing to not cooperate on this.

 

Oh I'm completely with you in that respect. I just wanted to point out that it didn't necessarily have to be good either. But everyone is entitled to their opinions so whatever floats your boat!

But it isn't against the law. So... Yeah.

 

Paul and his staff have a responsibility to cooperate with the Army's investigation. By not doing so he's showing utter disrespect for the Army's regulations. That's not someone that I'd want as President.