Ron Paul didn't win Iowa but he's in a great position moving forward.

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  1. catalinacat

    catalinacat Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh come on, that's just wishful thinking.:mrgreen:
     
  2. GoSlash27

    GoSlash27 New Member

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    *AHEM*....

    You folks are arguing over something neither of you understand. Speaking as an Iowa delegate myself, let me tell you how it works.

    First there is a straw poll. It is completely meaningless except for the press coverage. Non-binding.

    Once the precinct poll result is announced, almost everybody goes home, but the meeting isn't finished. Those who are interested in becoming delegates stick around to be elected for the post. 2 per precinct and 1 alternate. They will participate in caucuses at County level, then district, then State.
    Care to guess who's supporters stuck around and who didn't?

    Most, if not all Iowa delegates will be Paul supporters.
     
  3. Woogs

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    I had heard about this. Do you think that happened state wide? If so, that is very good news.
     
  4. GoSlash27

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    I'm certain it did. Word from the campaign is that they got this wired.
    It shouldn't be surprising when you think about it. How many of the people who voted for Romney or Santorum are actually motivated enough to stick around when they don't have to, pay delegate fees and make time in their schedule to travel?
     
  5. Woogs

    Woogs Well-Known Member

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    Good points. Also, Santorum will be out of it soon, so where would his potential delegates go? Not to Romney, it would seem.
     
  6. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    Yeah someone from Iowa gave me false information right after the votes were counted. I'm looking at information now that provides information for the delegate process for all 50 states.

    I think i'm going to do it for my home state. Going to the RNC to make some serious noise for Ron Paul sounds like a great time.
     
  7. GoSlash27

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    They might. If Santorum picked up any delegates, they'll be Evangelicals. Those folks are big on gays, abortion, and Israel. Not necessarily in that order.

    There are only 2 campaigns with the funding and organization to go the distance. That's Romney and Paul. Paul won't play ball with them on gay marriage or Israel. Romney is more than happy to play hawk and at least pretend on the other stuff.
    They might break his way. *IF* they actually exist.
    The Paul campaign is reporting that they got every single rural delegate. That's where Santorum won, so most likely there's no such thing as a Santorum delegate this year.
     
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    As a young [er] businessman, I flew over 1.5 million miles. It is tiring. Now Paul is a couple of years older than I am and I still travel a lot for pleasure. THEN, I got off the plane and dove into a full day's work, or a few days work before another long flight. Now its not nearly as often and for pleasure at my schedule, but it is tiring. Parts that didn't ache in the old days, DO ache in the "older days." The amount of air time he will log in the next few months is awful. And it will be exhausting. A few more state losses, and his mind will tell him his body can't take this anymore and he'll quit.

    There is a reason that no 70 or older has been elected to the WH. Few have been stupid enough to try. What you're seeing now from Paul is a massive EGO writing checks that his body cannot cash.
     
  9. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    So Obama than for four more years. Amnesty, Civilian National Defense Force, perhaps an economic collapse, a corrupt establishment police state, bring it all on.

    Bring it on. Let's see how you fair. Hope you and your friends aren't going to be reliant on social security because that will be the first entitlement to go.
     
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    You Paulbots won't like this but the only chance Ron Paul has of winning this nomination is if Newt Gingrich stays in this race for a while. If Newt can do enough damage to Romney in the debates it might give Ron Paul a chance to take the top spot.

    Ron Paul can attack Romney but it won't do as much as what Newt can do to Romney. No one can hit home runs in a debate like Newt can.
     
  11. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nonexistent threats? Like what? Iran? That's your side's cross to bare. If you care about Israel so much move there mo fo. Israelis are tough. You HAVE to serve there. No sending other people's kids.
     
  12. Dan40

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    Your the one backing a loser that has never come thru on a single promise. I'm against the same kind of person in the Democrat Party and in the WH. You are the one that wants to exchange an old do nothing for a young do nothing.

    If it were to come to that, IT WON"T, I'd vote for the old do nothing because much of what he says he'll do but won't, is good. While the younger incumbent do nothing, wants to but won't, accomplish much that is bad.
    My vote is against giving the incumbent idiot a chance to do his harm.

    WHEN the primaries are over and Paul has long since returned to Texas and retirement, THEN it is time to back a candidate against obama. Now backing an old man that has no chance and will tire and quit is a massive waste of time and energy.
     
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    I think he'll run third party, split the republican vote and assure Obama four more years.
    But we'll see. I agree he is too old for the job, but I don't agree that he recognizes that fact.
     
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    Monster EGO is the only reason he's in the primaries. Even he said he can't see himself getting elected. Since HE knows he won't get elected, and HE knows he's never accomplished even one of his preachings, and won't in the future. WHY, other than monster EGO is he in the primaries? But his old body cannot support the energy that his monster EGO demands.
     
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    It might kill him, but he'll keep going, but you're right that ego is the reason. When you are getting toward the end, having that one last great hurrah is very, very compelling.
     
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    Is that like, "Hold my beer, and watch THIS!"
     
  17. Teutorian

    Teutorian New Member

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    You're lying. You just completely made that up. Pants on fire. Complete fabrication.
     
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    Pants on fire?
    Really?
     
  19. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Monster ego? I've heard it all. Monster ego is a symptom of youth. It is about the message. The other candidates spend more time in front of a mirror than a 16 year old girl. I wouldn't be surprised if Romney was getting Botox as I type. To each his own. Maybe in your eyes Mr. Rodgers was an over the top prima donna. I digress. The age card has been proven faulty time and time again. Reagan to FDR. You will get nowhere with either of these roads. Come anew.
     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_ybaXhXno"]Judge Napolitano: What if they're lying to you about Ron Paul? - Fox Business - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    We're counting on it ;)
    It's also helpful that Romney collapses under stress like a cheap Wal-Mart card table.
     

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