Ron Paul didn't win Iowa but he's in a great position moving forward.

The fact is that right now there are only 2 guys with the support and organization to go forward, and that's Romney and Paul. The country seems to still be looking for 'other than Romney'. Someone else may surge again, but it's looking unlikely that much will come of it.

Romney will be killed in the general if he makes it that far. The Dems are already loaded up for him and will be using Ted Kennedy's old ads to attack him. So why not say who you think has the best chance against Obama?

Here's some stuff I posted in another thread. This WILL be used against Romney. Think he can stand up to it? We can only guess what else may come up.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/58952.html

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/a...slashed_jobs_romney_stayed_to_side/?page=full

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdYx19temU8"]Bain & Co: The 1994 Ad By Sen. Ted Kennedy Which Will Floor Mitt RomBOT in 2012 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI9yjhd8b84"]Mitt Romney - Serial Flip Flopper! - YouTube[/ame]

 

Republicans are running against the worst president in history. They have to hammer b.o.'s record of failure. Any other tact and b.o. wins. Paul can't hammer b.o.'s record of failure because Paul's is worse. I think it is a shame that the Republicans cannot and have not found a better candidate to fight obama. I see a strong possibility that obama wins against the whole field. It is only b.o.'s failures that allow for a possible defeat. But a tired old man like Paul with a history of not being able to pull together enough Congressmen to get even one of his sacred cows passed in 35 years, is a lock to lose. I don't think Romney is much, but Paul is obviously nothing as a obama opponent.

Who's the BEST opponent to beat obama? We don't know that yet. But here is the Paul standing.

Beat the incumbent. Very hard to do.
Set a new old age record for a newly elected president. Exceedingly hard to do.
Cite his record. A fairly dismal, unaccomplished CAREER POLITICIAN.
Paul talks a good game, accomplishes nothing.
obama talks a better game, accomplishes nothing.
Paul has idealists that don't know or understand how the system works.
b.o. has unscrupulous liars that completely understand how the system works and b.o. has the media 100% on his side.
Paul will have the adds he buys, NO POSITIVE comments on the MSM.

Paul is at the end of his political career, NOT at the beginning of a new one.

Romney is probably dog meat rotting in the sun. Perry AND Paul certainly are.

Santorum, Gingrich, or Huntsman has to emerge as a powerful candidate or obama has a walk over.

It saddens me greatly to say that.

And your links to committed far left people and orgs.? Were you expecting them to say anything positive about anyone in the Republican Party?

See my line above, "b.o. has unscrupulous liars that completely understand how the system works"

Your links prove my point.

 

We get it. You're a big government Statist and you hate Ron Paul.
It's nothing unique and nothing we haven't heard before.

 

Then stop posting about him.

 

I only posted those links to show what's coming. It doesn't say anything about my opinion. Just a reality check.

 

No you don't get it. I am more for smaller govt than you could possibly imagine, let alone understand. I am for cutting TRILLIONS out of govt spending ASAP, and then FASTER than that.
I am probably more for smaller less expensive govt than Paul himself. I KNOW that if I had fought for those things in Congress and achieved such little success as he has, [NONE]I would have resigned in shame and passed the torch to someone more capable.

I can tolerate Paul's wacky ideas and agree with many of his reasonable ideas. I cannot tolerate obama, but my long experience and knowledge tells me that 100% Paul is not the answer. He, like me, is history. Each of us has much more time behind us than we have ahead of us.

If there was ANY chance of Paul beating b.o., I'd be happy to support him. There is NO chance, period.

 

You claim to support small government but you oppose Ron Paul. You claim to support cutting trillions from spending. Ron Paul is the only candidate who will actually do this but you oppose Ron Paul.

We weren't born yesterday, Dan. Pretending to be of something and of a movement to have more credibility when THRASHING it isn't a tactic you've invented. You're not that sly. I have yet to see you in any thread, with any post, say anything in opposition to the other GOP candidates who are all big spending, big government frauds. All you do is attack Ron Paul relentlessly, all the while claiming to support what he believes in.

Please.

 

I disagree with you characterization of RP except that he is old. The question is if he's too old. I think not, as he seems to be in great shape and hasn't lost his sharpness. You can't just look at a number and say someone's too old. Everyone is an individual when it comes to that. I've read that both his parents lived into their 90's so he has good genetics on his side.

That being said, I'm enough of a realist to doubt whether he could, or would, go 2 terms if elected. I would like to see him win and have a great VP pick to take over after 1 term. Four years would be enough, IMO, to turn things around and at least get us off the edge of the cliff. His overall philosophy would take many years to implement and it's an open question whether others would carry it forward.

 

4 years would NOT be enough. And the president does not make laws. He signs laws, Congress makes the laws. Congress has NEVER agreed with Paul in his lifetime. You're avoiding reality if you think they would agree with him in the WH. They didn't and they wouldn't.

The oldest President was Reagan, age 69. AGE was a factor that he had to overcome. And Paul is no Reagan when it comes to deflecting criticism. Paul will be 77 at election time, OLDER than the oldest President ever, RR at reelection at 73. Paul is as old now as when the oldest President RETIRED.

And you Paulists have hammered EVERY other candidate like they were worse than obama, an impossibility. Who is this VP choice with the big red S on his/her chest? You've savaged out all the other candidates. Who you keeping in a cave?

 

He can also veto them, something Paul would love nothing more to do.
Google who is favorite president was and why.

 

And vetoes can be and have been overridden. Boring.

Paul will drop out.

 

this is the last time im going to feed you, promise


Why does Ron Paul like Cleveland? On the Tonight Show, he said it was because President Cleveland was quick to veto bills passed by Congress. But there are many more reasons why Paul likes Cleveland. The similarities between the interpretations and philosophies of the two men are striking.

“Simply put, freedom is the absence of government coercion. The Constitution established a very limited, decentralized government to provide national defense and little else. Any government coercion beyond that necessary to secure those rights was forbidden. This reflected the founders’ belief that democratic government could be as tyrannical as any King. Few Americans understand that all government action is inherently coercive. If nothing else, government action requires taxes. If taxes were freely paid, they wouldn’t be called taxes, they’d be called donations. If we intend to use the word freedom in an honest way, we should have the simple integrity to give it real meaning: Freedom is living without government coercion.”

 

Paul WILL drop out. Write that on your palm.

 

then stop posting about him.

 

I hope Ron Paul gets a fair chance to win the nomination, and so far that's happen. I don't support him, but I don't support the GOP establishment going out of their way to prevent him from getting the nomination. The last thing we need is for Paul and his supporters to complain that they were ousted from the process.

 

Romney will get the nomination, then get spanked in november.
His whiney little statist supporters will claim it was Ron Paul's fault.
Obama will spend four more years blaming Bush.
Bankers will continue to get trillions of our dollars, and we will continue to eat their losses. The people will proceed to elect a new republicrat and start all over again.

Do I have to mention the big banks getting even more of our wealth ?

 

What he has done in congress leaves us with a sense of unfullfilment. What he has done in the public to get us thinking about the status quo is imeasurable. He is bringing that next generation of voters into the booths to vote, and get engaged. Do you really think it is only cause of his stance on federal government laws on drugs that gets these kids into vote? He is the godfather of the TEA party, and still leads those that aren't concerned about the social issues more than fiscal issues. He has accomplishments, just not in congress.

 

Congress isn't there to agree with Paul the Texas Rep. But they are there to agree with the people that elect them and if the PEOPLE elect Ron for POTUS, that is what the PEOPLE want. If they don't work with Paul who is willing to cut the spending, REAL cuts, then they will see the door in 2014.

 

At least the media has gone back to ignoring him and stopped trying to bring up false monikers and lies about what he said. They are so bad at misquoting him too.

 

The people in Congress are there to get reelected first and foremost. They never needed to agree with the tired old man before, they wouldn't agree with him now.

 

And are people going to reelect them when they keep doing more and more unpopular things that Ron Paul has changed and they change back?

 

tea party. More tea party.

 

Actually, Paul left Iowa with the lion's share of delegates. Possibly all of them. Very few of the other candidates' followers stuck around for the delegate selection.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-you-read-about-the-sly-move-the-ron-paul-camp-pulled-last-night/

 

Um....no. How many delegates did McCain pick up when he came in 4th after the 2008 Iowa caucus? And.....the delegates your guys picked up are unbound.

 

They aren't my guys. A Paulobot claimed Paul picked up only 2 less delegates than those that picked up all the delegates.

The old man will tire out and quit before the primaries end.