Ron Paul may run Third party/anouncement tuesday 11/4/12

Ron Paul Reportedly Considering 2012 Presidential Run on a Third Party Ticket

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...2012-presidential-run-on-a-third-party-ticket

I hope he does. I have left the republican party for the libertarian party. He would get my vote over or with Gary Johnson.

 

I for one hope he does not.
Voting for Paul will be voting for Barack Obama, he will do nothing but pull votes away from Romney, and in a close election Paul could could give the election to Obama.

How will Paul voters feel the next morning after election day when it sinks in that they've helped Obama win four more years ?

 

Ron Paul on a third party ticket, or a Johnson/Paul ticket would get LESS than 8% of the vote. Probably less than 4%. Meaningless in the long run, but each vote a benefit for obama.

I believe that Ron Paul WILL endorse Romney. Rand already has. Ron Paul knows his career is OVER. His only hope to stay on the national scene is to get some position from Romney. obama will not reward Paul with anything, and Paul is intelligent enough to know he cannot win anything on his own. So Paul has 2 choices, retirement after a ridiculous, wasted third party run, or endorse Romney and collect some goodies from the winner. He is EGO driven.

 

Why not just vote for Obama and cut out the middle man?

 

To put the Ron Paul fiasco into perspective.

Our county is 48% Republican, 29% Democrat, and 23% NPA or 'other.'

July campaign contributions.

Romney------$114,368.00

obama ------$26,902.00

Santorum----$25.00

Paul---------$20.00

 

To put the Ron Paul fiasco into perspective.

Our county is 48% Republican, 29% Democrat, and 23% NPA or 'other.'

July campaign contributions.

Romney------$114,368.00

obama ------$26,902.00

Santorum----$25.00

Paul---------$20.00

 

I consider the end result in a mitt/obama victory the same. More government, more spending and mess freedom.

IF you feel my third party vote is a Vote for Obama im ok with that. It doesnt change the fact im not voting for obama

 

I consider the end result in a mitt/obama victory the same. More government, more spending and mess freedom.

IF you feel my third party vote is a Vote for Obama im ok with that. It doesnt change the fact im not voting for obama

 

You guys with this "Obama and Romney are the same" bullcrap have really got your heads up your asses. The fact is there is a difference between the two, and if you cannot see it, maybe it's best you just stay home on election day.

 

The differences you speak of are nothing of interest. They are non issues. I hope Ron Paul runs!

 

And what will it accomplish other than sending Obama back to the White House for four more years ?

 

I think what they are trying to do is to send a message to the Republican party that they are unhappy with the way they do business. In there minds a vote for Romney is a vote for Obama so there is no difference.

 

Sure you are. You're just spelling it differently.

 

Ron Paul is a senile racist anti-semite. If he wanted to be president, he should have run 25 years ago when he was under 100 years old. Go ahead and waste your vote on Ron Paul. He won't be around to see the end of Obama's second term.

 

Would only benefit Obama. Which I'm beginning to believe is the intention anyway.

Screw Ron Paul, and the mule he limped in on.

 

Ron Paul DID run for president 24 years ago. He quit the Republican Party and joined the Libertarian Party to run as their candidate in 1988. He got less than 1% of the popular vote. And then threw the Libertarian Party under the bus and rejoined the Republican Party to give himself some credibility.

Paul, A Republican Party Representative in the US House, had run for US Senator in 1984 as a Republican, but he lost in the primary to Phil Graham who had just switched from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party.

Pizzed at the Republicans, he quit politics for awhile and then quit the Republican Party and became a Libertarian. After failing to even fog a mirror in the 88 presidential elections and seeing a chance to get his House seat back. He rejoined the Republican Party. Paul has been an ego driven opportunist all his life.

 

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate who has actually put forward solutions toward fixing the systemic problem with our currently corrupt corporate-political economic system: AUDITING THE FED!!!

Here's an excellent article as to why Ron Paul actually attracts left-leaning voters:
http://generation-add.blogspot.com/2011/12/end-fed-by-ron-paul-i-first-developed.html

 

That's all fine and dandy, but can he win the election?

My neighbor may have some great ideas about fixing the systemic problem with our currently corrupt corporate-political economic system but do you think it would do any good for me to write her name in?

 

The Federal Reserve, which I am NOT for, has been undergoing regular audits since BEFORE Ron Paul ever ran for any office. Paul wanted complete exposure to the public of the entire Fed audit. NO business stands for that.

And Paul has never put forth a solution to anything. He has sponsored bills that died in Congress. The rare times when a Paul bill cleared the House, it died in the Senate. NO important issue sponsored by Paul has EVER become law. More than 3 decades of all talk with ZERO accomplished.
Now the primaries are over and the convention is over. Paul finished 4th in the popular vote in the primaries. LAST AGAIN. And actually got MORE delegates votes in the convention than he earned at the voting booths. But that was still only 8%. Paul is now a has been that never was.

When the primaries started, Paulobots said he would WIN. I said that was naive nonsense.

When he obviously had LOST long before the primaries were near over, Paulobots said he would win by taking the most delegates. I said that was naive nonsense.

When the primaries were over and Paul had finished last and 4th in a 2 man race, Paulobots said he would get the nomination at the convention. I said that was naive nonsense.

Now Paulobots talk of a 3rd party candidacy for Paul. That is naive nonsense. He got 8% of the Republican primary vote. In a general election he would get less than half that, 4% or less.

He has been a minor league player all his life. In the big leagues he couldn't run well, catch on, or hit a good bill.

 

A vote for ANY conservative candidate INCLUDING Ron Paul is still showing you support those values and beliefs. You don't need to vote for the nominee to support conservative values especially when you're voting for Ron Paul's more traditional values. Vote for who YOU want even if they don't win. Its better to have a scarce chance of getting what you want but voicing that you actually want it rather than voting for something you DON'T want and getting it. Its like having a choice between eating Horse Poop, Lizard Sperm, or Ice Cream. Why wouldn't you pick Ice Cream even if everyone else is picking one of the other two choices to eat?

 

I would think that one of you could explain it, but so far, it's all been the usual rhetoric about Obama being a Marxist. State capitalism or state socialism, it really all looks the same to those who care about individual liberty and small government. If you don't care about those things, then, by all means, vote for Romney. Even if Obama wins, you'll get what you want - more big government, more crushing debt burden for future generations, more warfare, more welfare, more dependence on government, and more sinking economy.

 

Anybody else hearing that giant "CRAAAAAACKKKKK!"?

Can't wait until after the election when the Republicans take the shards that are left of their party and use them to beat each other over the head.

The Republicans have put Paulinians on their list of people to (*)(*)(*)(*) over, and the Paulinians, so desperate for attention, will shut their mouths, bend over the chair and take it like the sellouts that they are.

Way to stand up for your convictions.

 

Look even IF Obama does win (which he will due to them screwing up and choosing an unelectable imbecile) maybe they will learn their lesson and stop picking candidates that want to bring things back to Bushness as usual. I mean hopefully they won't have their heads up their rears when Biden makes a run for the Presidency in 2016 after Obama's term is done. Because I seriously hope they won't put up someone like Rick Santorum or we could look forward to a cluster muck of a Presidency with Biden.

Its the GOP's OWN fault for who they throw in there as a candidate. THEY are the ones who picked Bush Sr., Bush Jr., McCain, and Romney. And everyone got their way by voting in Clown Prince Idiot Bush in there not once but twice. Yet they STILL whine when we get crappy presidents like Obama and Clinton. Put up a candidate thats appealing and then fine we'll vote conservative. Until then enjoy losing.

If most people are veering off to being Libertarian because they feel like they want more than just the lesser of two idiots, maybe the GOP could actually do something about it in 2016 after they lose this election. Least it will teach them a lesson to be smarter when choosing a candidate for an election.

 

The same way we feel now. Confused at how you can nominate someone like McCain or Mitt Romney, and then expect us to vote for him. How do you feel now that you got Obama into office because you couldn't tell the difference between a small government conservative and a neocon?

If you wanted us to vote Republican, you should have nominated Ron Paul.

Next time don't listen to the media, just vote for the guy who wants the fewest laws and the smallest government.

We're definitely not voting for Mitt Romney. If you really don't want Obama to be the President any more, you should vote for Gary Johnson.

 

Its funny because conservatives keep saying they want someone as great as Reagan back in office. Yet you nominate Mitt Romney. Then you say "Oh well I guess he's just the lesser of two evils so we'll vote for him" knowing he won't win. Either way the GOP will lose this year so why not just vote for someone who you like. Even if they don't win, at least you know you voted for a quality candidate. A vote for Romney is a vote for Obama IMO because Romney doesn't stand a chance just like McCain didn't. Least by voting for a Libertarian you could send a message that the GOP should stop picking unelectable candidates and start listening to the people. More positive can come out of that then just blindly backing Romney just because you hate Obama who is likely to win anyways.

I think not only should you take votes away from Romney, I think many of you should get out there and sway many conservative votes to Libertarian, Green Party or whatever. With a good showing it could put that party on the map. Wouldn't you rather see Obama win in a close race to a Libertarian (or even better possibly win) than to win against Romney and have most conservatives laughed at again?