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  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only person you are fooling is yourself. IT IS OVER. Do you fallow? Do you understand? At this point it is nothing more than sad. The mere fact you exist proves the FED is corrupt, for something genuine doesn't need shills. The sands are just about emptied from the hourglass, and there will be no flipping it over. Time to make plans. Move to China. Be their problem. Your time here is over.
     
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    no, it's not, i'm here to stay, so stop lying about things you have no clue about
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You got it all figured out. EVERYONE, ON EVERY THREAD, is nuts. Just you and one other guy out of millions are the rational ones. You do understand how democracies work right? You can only get away with murder so long as you can trick the public. You can't trick the public on this subject anymore. IT IS OVER. Are you all going to submit us? Please. You all can't hold down stone throwing nations. 300 million Americans can make your ilk extinct. Move. Save you and yours. Guaranteed your bosses wont stick around. Why fight for something those who make the real money wont even die for?
     
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    dujac Well-Known Member

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    show me where i said that


    are you intoxicated? because you're not making any sense
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    YOU HAVE NOTHING. We are 300 million with one voice as to this subject. Call one of us nuts, you are calling all of us nuts. At least pretend this thread doesn't exist anymore, let it get buried and hope I don't call you out on the new ones you show up on. And ask if you can post from Mexico. Get a transfer.
     
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    so you think you can rightly speak for 300 million people?

    like i said, i'm not going anywhere and your whacky harangue is certainly not going to change that
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only one you are fooling is yourself. The people reading understand fully what I am saying. I am just trying to give you advise. If you don't want to take it, fine. Just know, the soldiers coming home are my cousins and neighbors. Those cops you are hoping will protect you, are my cousins and neighbors. All of them are catching on at a faster pace than the general public. And yes, on this issue, I speak for 300 million, and I do so proud. Right or left. Con or lib. Rich and poor. Central bankers are the enemy of all. Whether you are devaluing 2 mil or 2 cents. Run rabbit, run.
     
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    dujac Well-Known Member

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    that's really delusional

    oh please, you can't even spell advice


    i'm right here, not running
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL. One is not delusional when he says "water is wet" is speaking for 300 million people.

    One is not delusional when he says "the sky is blue" is speaking for 300 million people.

    And one is not delusional when he says "central bankers are the enemy of all" is speaking for 300 million.
     
  10. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    maybe it's a combination of delusion and ignorance

    president george washington signed the legislation which chartered the first bank of the united states (central bank)


    Congress is explicitly granted power to regulate currency, and to make any law that is 'necessary and proper' to fulfill any of its enumerated powers. Therefore, if Congress can create a Bureau of Mint to coin and print money, it can also create a Bank that can regulate said currency. This argument has stood the test of time since 1791 when congress created the Bank of the United States.


    In 1819 the Supreme Court voted 9-0 to uphold the Second Bank. Critics say only gold and coin are legal tender, but U.S. v. Rifen clearly tells us what can be legal tender:The United States Constitution prohibits states from declaring legal tender anything other than gold or silver but does not limit Congress' power to declare what shall be legal tender for all debts: Coinage Act of 1965, §102, 31 USCA §392; USCA Const. Art. 1, §10.
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please. You cant even capitalize or use punctuation marks.
     
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    dujac Well-Known Member

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    sure i can, but i've chosen my own style of writing

    did you misspell advice because you wanted to?
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was just being sarcastic when I posted that. Not because I ran out of BS. Can you say the same?
     
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    i don't post bs, you do
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So then you will be happy to list the initial banks who invested in the FED, are the primary owners of the FED, their private arms, so people can see plainly how they insider trade on a daily basis and are in direct violation of SEC rules. Or of course, where in the Federal Reserve Act it gives them immunity to do so.
     
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    no, i won't be posting any looney bs like that, i post factual information

    for example: president george washington signed the legislation which chartered the first bank of the united states, our first central bank
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My God. You really are grabbing at straws. Do you REALLY want to open that Pandora's Box? You know what all us "nutjobs" will do to you when bringing in the founders views as to what we have now. I hope the 2 new people to PF on this thread appreciate what lengths the shills go to every time to try and win one. I encourage you all to fallow the bottom 2 links in my sig, so you can see the never ending desperation of these "people who really like the FED". They are links to a PF thread. Not to another site.
     
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    the link i looked at just shows how wrong you are

    the truth is that the president nominates the chairman of the fed and congress confirms it*

    i support telling the truth about the fed, not false propaganda like yours


    * As stipulated by the Banking Act of 1935, the President appoints the seven members of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; they must then be confirmed by the Senate and serve for 14 years. Once appointed, Governors may not be removed from office for their policy views. The chairman and vice-chairman are chosen by the President from among the sitting Governors for four-year terms; these appointments are also subject to Senate confirmation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chairman_of_the_Federal_Reserve#cite_note-0
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please. In that thread you posted your own link to a company that audits the FED. On there they had how the FED works. Nowhere does it say that anyone in Washington gets to pick anyone involved in the FED. That is all a lie, that modern American presidents, regardless of affiliation, have all played along with. We haven't been a nation in a century. We are a work camp, ran like a banana republic.
     
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    why would an audit need to cover what is in the federal reserve act?

    The seven members of the Board of Governors are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate to serve 14-year terms of office. Members may serve only one full term, but a member who has been appointed to complete an unexpired term may be reappointed to a full term. The President designates, and the Senate confirms, two members of the Board to be Chairman and Vice Chairman, for four-year terms.

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/frseries/frseri.htm


    Federal Reserve Act

    Section 10. Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System

    1. Appointment and Qualification of Members

    The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (hereinafter referred to as the "Board") shall be composed of seven members, to be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, after the date of enactment of the Banking Act of 1935, for terms of fourteen years except as hereinafter provided, but each appointive member of the Federal Reserve Board in office on such date shall continue to serve as a member of the Board…

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section%2010.htm
     
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    Yeah, Dujac tried to start stuff on one of my posts on another thread too. He's a troll. And we all know if you don't feed the trolls, they just go away.
     
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    notice how my post is backed up by verifiable references, what is yours backed by, a fairy tale
     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A link to your post:http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...ul-leads-hearing-first-ever-audit-fed-18.html

    The link from the post:http://www.federalreserve.gov/boarddocs/rptcongress/annual09/sec6/c3.htm

    All one has to do is simply scroll down. That is what you listed as proof the FED has been audited, yet, recently the FED has announced and confirmed 16 trillion in currency exchanges with Europe, and nowhere are such amounts even listed, proving the faultiness and deception of shill literature on the subject.

    That is from the very bottom. Proving that the banks themselves have as much power as the "Board of Governors". Now, when one takes into account the century of president's and congress choices of who is on the "governors" one must realize it is all a dog and pony show. Washington doesn't choose who runs the FED, the FED chooses who runs Washington. I would like to see 1 example, just 1, of someone on the "Board of Governors" who wasn't a choice the FED wouldn't have just picked themselves. It is a fraud. Is there even 1 example, over the course of 100 years, of a presidents selection that congress shot down? There is a difference between power of choice and simply executing novel formalities for the sake of a naive public.
     
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    no, it doesn't say the banks have as much power as the board


    the president appoints the fed chairman, the fed chairman controls the fed

    these are facts, your nutty conspiracy theories have no factual basis
     
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    Well, I guess a "community organizer" and a failed baseball team owner's knowledge of central banking explains the current economic climate, you know, since they pick and all. Bernanke must of been a veterinarian before he become more powerful than any other leader of an American entity.
     
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