Ron Paul To Everyone But Mitt....Drop Out

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  1. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesse Benton should watch out what he asks for - if Gingrich, Hunstman, et al, drop out their backers will probably unite behind Romney, not Paul...
     
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    I think Jesse, Paul and their whole camp is more then willing to take that chance.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a chance they won't have an opportunity to take - there's no way Gingrich, Huntsman and Santorum are going to drop out and rally behind Ron Paul right now.

    The fact is, Jon Huntsman may be the best thing going for the Paul campaign right now. Looking at the NH results, it appears that Huntsman is going to suck votes out of the Romney camp and elevate Paul's position in the process...
     
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    What makes you think that? They are all 'not Romney' candidates. RP wouldn't get all the support, but he would get a net benefit from it and it would eliminate the clutter and the vote against Romney could no longer be split.

    Huntsman supporters wouldn't likely go to RP, but there's not many of them nationally anyway. I believe most would go for Obama before Romney so there's no loss there.

    RP IS gaining nationally, even with the crowded field.

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    Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX), a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, can celebrate two victories Wednesday. Mr. Paul is tied with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich for 2nd place at the national level among Republicans and Independents, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released Tuesday. Mr. Paul and Mr. Gingrich pulled in 17 percent of the votes each, while former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney garnered 29 percent of the votes.

    The results of the Reuters/Ipsos poll were released prior to Mr. Paul’s 2nd place finish in the New Hampshire Primary. Whether Mr. Paul’s strong finish on Tuesday night will impact his standing in South Carolina or at the national level will be revealed in the coming days.

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/poll-ron-paul-surges-5-points-at-national-level/
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Any response to this question would be based on pure random speculation.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    theres a lot of blind uneducated sheep in america here that just dont get that.
     
  7. marbro

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    Perhaps your right. I find it hard to believe that the Gingrich and Santorum camp would rally behind Paul.

    That said, I still think they should drop out and support Paul. I think all are anti Romney and as such they should support Paul who is clearly the biggest anti establishment candidate we have seen in years.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately Pauls camp is barking in the wind since all the other republican candidates are all CFR members here to serve the corporations and wall street instead of us so they will join behind Romney to defeat paul.after all,just like romney,they are here only to serve the establishment and not the people so i dont know what the people in pauls camp were thinking by saying this.what we need is the MILITARY to come out and say this to the american people for it to make a difference.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    again why would they do that though since Gingrich,and Santorum are here for the same reason Romney is.to serve wallstreet and the establishment instead of us?
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I pointed out in Post 28, I expect Paul will gain with a crowded field when you have the likes of Jon Huntsman siphoning off votes from Romney. I understand the political theater involved with Benton's call, but I don't think it will benefit the Paul campaign right now...
     
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    I agree with what you say however they are running publically on an 'anti Romney platform'

    My personal opinion is that all of them minus Ron Paul are for the establishment. Its just that they make their money on public persona and you have to take that into account even if its a lie.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    you nailed it,too bad i already repped you cause i would like you to do it again on this one but i cant.well you got to remember they may say they are anti romney but they will never get behind paul because thats not just mere opinion on your part that they will serve the establishment,thats a fact.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree with you. I think some of Gingrich's crowd might get behind Paul, but I don't see that with Santorum's Bible thumpers.

    Of course, you want them all to drop out - who could blame you? :mrgreen:

    However, when you look at this from a "divide and conquer" perspective, Paul is going to benefit from a split vote. I think Romney is going to lose votes to Gingrich and Huntsman in the upcoming races - the question is whether or not Paul has enough strength in places like South Carolina to take advantage of the situation (?), especially as the campaign grinds on in the months ahead...
     
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    You are ignurnt.The Fed's number ONE job is to ward off Inflation.
    I have no idea'r where you get yer knowlwdge of things.
    Listening to Alex Jones is not being studied.
     
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    I think the split vote just benefits Romney. The longer he goes on as the front runner, the more inevitable his nomination becomes. It's time to get behind a candidate to oppose Romney if the others are serious about it.

    As the others drop out, as they will, their supporters will be looking for who is most electable. If they drop out sooner than later, Paul has a better chance as the electable 'not Romney' candidate.

    JMO.
     
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    I think you're trying too hard to be funny... History itself has shown the devaluation of the US Dollar to be around 98% since the Federal Reserve took control over Monetary Policy.
     
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    Quite plausible.

    However, I was just looking at Paul's numbers in South Carolina and Florida, and they're not looking very good...

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ina_republican_presidential_primary-1590.html

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...ida_republican_presidential_primary-1597.html

    Looks like Jesse Benton should be concentrating more on keeping his own campaign in the race...
     
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    I agree that SC is a tough nut to crack. Hopefully, those numbers change before the primary. RP will compete in Florida, but I don't think he's looking for a win there. There is talk of Florida switching to a proportional delegate allocation instead of a winner take all.

    The campaign is really looking for the upcoming caucus states, but they have to remain competitive until then. I posted earlier about a poll that shows Paul tied with Gingrich nationally for second. So there's good news and not so good news.

    Here's that link again on the national poll.

    http://www.thestatecolumn.com/articles/poll-ron-paul-surges-5-points-at-national-level/
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think Paul and his supporters should be optimistic - the numbers in South Carolina and Florida might look kinda bleak right now but I'm expecting they'll improve in the days and weeks ahead. Paul's made enough noise in Iowa and New Hampshire that he can't be simply dismissed out of hand anymore, IMO.

    What's unfortunate about South Carolina is that there are so many social conservatives who are going to vote largely on issues that RP and his Libertarian base don't consider any of the government's business. His campaign is just going to have to suck that up, maintain its drive and enthusiasm, and try and regain momentum after South Carolina. This horse race isn't even out of the first turn yet...
     
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    trolling. thats the only thing that explains this moronic post.
     
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    I wish that was the case, but it's not. The media is still in full-scale denial mode.
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    This would be interesting..
     
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    Yup the media is still doing its BS bias tricks to either hide Ron Paul or belittle him.

    And there is still folks trying to direct him toward their policies which are an affront to everything Ron Paul stands for.

    He has not changed in the last 20 years, he will not change now and I wouldn’t have it any other way win or lose.

    He is a champion for Liberty.
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    amen to that.
     
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    A candidate should not quit until he either runs out of funding, or loses the election period. Dropping out just gives Paul the edge when he decides to go independant, which he is anyway. he is nothing more than a RINO.
     

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