Ronald Reagan's Central American Death Squads

just like if America goes BK, I suppose the leader of Russia at the time will claim credit for it

 

correction: Eisenhower started the training of death squads

do you condemn that ?

 

Let's you and I engage once you give me the answer to my questions about Obama.

 

If Putin comes to America and delivers talks to US Students who then go after our Government and it falls, then certainly he get credit.

Why would Reagan get any credit for the economy of Russia?

First, we all know the Soviets were going broke ---NOW

That was not then known by US.

Why did WE not know it? The Soviets were awesome at hiding behind the IRON Curtain. They knew more about the USA than we knew about the SOVIETS.

Reagan is the president that went into the Soviet Union and gave speeches to groups he had contact with.

Reagan's policies really are why the Soviets called it quits. It amazes me to read posters who give Abe Lincoln tons of credit not realize a better president named Reagan lived as they lived.

 

Unfortunately, you do not understand the meaning of "death squads" as they pertain to Latin America or anywhere else for that matter. What Eisenhower and fascist Reagan did was to arm domestic traitors with a fascist bent who proceeded to kill people from their own countries. The controlled reich wing media pretended that this was all good because it was "democratic" {sic} governments fighting off commies. The reality, however, was that the government killed Native Americans, the poor, and leftists who sought to bring about equality in those countries. Several links have already been posted here to prove it but you continually pretend this has not been done. It is obvious that you know it is true but you are too closed minded and too dishonest to acknowledge it. Of course, nobody else is being fooled as the facts cannot be more clear.


While I certainly agree that Special Ops should not be in Syria or Afghanistan (had you troubled yourself to read my past posts on the subject you would have known this to be true), their actions have been sanctioned through NATO and are part of international military operations. They are not the result of criminal and treasonous actions by a fascist like Reagan who sought to prop up fascists like Rios-Montt in his effort to exterminate Native Americans in his quest for ethnic cleansing.

 

This awesome speech is clearly as valid today as it was back then.

Spend some time. Watch a truly great public speech.

[video=youtube;qXBswFfh6AY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXBswFfh6AY[/video]

 

Give us a Effing break.

Sanctioned by NATO?

That is BS.

I have studied NATO's charter. It does not state that Obama can simply send in "death squads" when he wants. It does not state that all he needs is NATO Approval.

Also you brush aside that Kennedy started it, that Johnson continued it and was Carter that made a fuss over it.

Apparently you at some point fell into love with the ideology called communism.

I darned near lost my dinner when I read you claim Obama seeks permission. Hell, he does not even do that with our own congress.

 

a country doesn't go BK overnight, I think if you were being honest you would know that

what was it exactly you think Reagan did to cause Russia to have to go BK?

I blame the Russian leadership at the time, I hardly think Reagan caused them to go BK overnight

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That is supposed to be magic.

Trying to spin my remarks to seem like yours or similar to yours. Then you attack your comments.

If I actually ever get caught claiming a country can go broke over night, you have my consent to give me a good slap.

I did not say the Soviets went Bankrupt. Had i said that, I am certain I would have had a good comment.

I said that for the Soviets, Reagan really got to jerk them around. And they made a major mistake letting Reagan speak to the public of Russia. Reagan was like magic to the public that listened to his talks at the time.

Gorbachev had his hands on the till so to speak. Gorbachev gives Reagan far more credit than our Democrats do on the fall of the Soviets.

 

your right, I got yours and PatriotNews threads crossed, sorry about that

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Post 60 claims PatriotNews said what you blamed me for. But he never said it either.

 

never said what? he said what I quoted, word for word as an exact quote?

but hey, if your saying Reagan did not cause Russia to go BK, then we agree

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On the contrary, it is you Republicans who are the financiers of communism as proven by the writings of CONSERVATIVE Anthony Sutton. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Reagan, and the like were of your party.

As for NATO, anyone can easily look up any online article which readily prove this is a NATO operation, not a death squad genocide financed by a Reagan like your hero did.


Those are the patriotic FACTS. I challenge any unpatriotic Republican to try to disprove that TRUTH.

 

About as accurate as this post from the same uneducated poster..

http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html

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Citation needed

 

I can post more links but since your side refuses to prove anything, I've decided to dispense with it - google if you want further proof

 

Evasion and dodging so no you stated falsehood and Ike did no such thing.

I have no side

 

Reagan brought a premature end to a doomed system. No one said they went bankrupt overnight. But they lost their grip on power when they could no longer keep up militarily, technologically and the Eastern blocks people's saw the opening, the opportunity to free themselves from the boot of the USSR. Together with Thatcher and Pope John Paul II, they set in motion the collapse of the Soviet Union.

 

so now it's a "premature end".. got it

 

You clearly want to link Republicans to the communists.

That is a very bizarre claim given who you base those claims on.

Since you named people, let me name my own grandfather who though not formally well educated, still was educated well enough he was conversant on many topics. James was a communist in the 30s and came to us from TX but lived quite a bit of his life in Arkansas along with Oklahoma and finally here in California. It was at Grandfathers home where I discovered higher education. When he dropped being communist, the party he gravitated to was the Democrats.

Many people visited the Soviet Union from the USA and some really liked what they found and some saw hardships.

Even today, residents of the USA have mixed feelings. We find posters who advocate for the communist system. I do not believe most who are in favor of communism saw it operate up close.

I happened to cross into East Germany where one could see the stark nature of communism.

I also was once engaged to a German young woman who had lived under Hitler and later under the Soviets. Her family had some very stark anti communist views. I suppose once you touched the beast, you have a stronger feeling than those who merely read of the beast. By the way, when I touched the beast and recoiled from it, I then was a very loyal Democrat.

As a then loyal democrat, I was taught most of the Democrats lies as if they were true. Since changing to republican, I find I do not charge the other party nearly the way they charge me.

Democrats believe a lot of things. Trouble is they are not true.

 

Usually what I notice most is those who, despite no evidence, credit Obama with so much, fight like mad to try to make sure Reagan only gets credit for what they see as evil and deny him credit for the plans of his that really did get carried out.

 

No one person brought down the Soviets. Reagan did not whip Communists since so many Americans believe dearly in communism. They even have a party that is devoted to the aims of communism. Well known as the Democratic party.

Take a good look at the chart that shows when Democrats ran the country. By that we mean ran congress. Part of the time when Democrats had the two houses, they managed to lose the president's job. But presidents do not make law.

To get the idea of who made law, examine congress. They have had remarkable runs at the ownership of congress.

Now since 1950, take a good look at their lawmaking.

They understand that those who make law runs the show.

Democrats as a group and even today, clamor for laws upon laws.

You can virtually control and force submission by making the laws.

Democrats may lose the presidency, but their goal is always more laws. Never content with the laws on the books, they believe in more and more of them.

[video=youtube;p5-5a6Q54BM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5-5a6Q54BM[/video]

 

Your quote of course is accurate. It proves he did not say what you say he said.

For some odd reason, though you used his quote, you made things up about what he had said.

 

Dude dont waste your breath,he gets taken to school constantly on this time and time again but the Reagan worshippers dismiss facts and refuse to look at them only seeing what they want to see. I took the reagan apologists to school earlier that Reagan did not bring down communism earlier in post# here. Nobody has an answer for the information in those videos cause they won look at them.

 

thats all he is full of in the JFK section as well with his fairy tales that oswald shot JFK. He has this arrogant attititude he is right and everyone else in the world is wrong,he gets taken to school on this everyday here at this site and has been by by hundreds of posters over the years,the fact this site allows people like that to troll here everyday like that even though hundreds of others have taken him to school in it over the years ,thats some messed up crap there.

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the reagan apologists want to desperatly believe that they are so much in denial about their hero.

 

a standing ovation is needed. Reagan was obviously a distant cousin of his the fact he blatantly ignores facts how reagan was a mass murderer and gave financial support to fascists.His hate of the truth about reagan is indeed blinding him to the truth about his hero.