Rue, Britannia <<Moderator's Warning Issued>>

It's a good day, at last we can breathe a sigh of relief.
No longer will we be locked into a deal with the EU set to protect others from leaving its undemocratic bloc.

 

Ironically from a German.

Jeremy Corbyn has a cheek to say 'this is not on' considering in 2017 he tried to bring London to its knees in a summer of discontent paving a way for his Red October power grab.
When Theresa May called the snap election that Labour lost, Socialists in Momnetum in Labour went on TV and called for a power seize; So for Jeremy Corbyn of all people to say Boris Johnson is out of line doesn't make since Jeremy Corbyn tried something much worse in 2017.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-warning-at-march-of-comrade-corbyn-p8lfd26ps

I have to remind people up and down the UK that London is real, and if anyone attacks it and disrupts London for political gain like Corbyn did, is completely out of line.
Did anyone apologies to me when my train wouldn't take me to work on time, made me wait 2 hours after work before taking me home?

 

For a country as diverse as UK, why is it all those people protesting are white?
Weren't any black people invited to the party? lol - just odd.

 

The 'constitution' has no legality. It is highly unlikely the courts can do anything.

 

Mainly because the brexiters won a border in Ireland which conflicts with the GFA.

 

Bring Ireland out of the EU customs union inline with Brexit customs to allow chlorinated chicken or hormone injected beef.
Or... Let Ireland pay import duties for importing over the border.

Since when was London in Ireland?
What they do in that country is up to them; they want to be in the EU customs, so let them have their EU border.

I can't stress this enough; Ireland is not UK. What UK does is up to UK and if by chance this'll cut off Ireland, then; Ireland can fix this and ask to leave the EU customs for frictionless trade with the UK. Or Ireland can choose to allow the EU to erect a border.
What Ireland do is up to Ireland, what UK do isn't up to Ireland.

 

The UK is a signatory to the Belfast Agreement, otherwise known as the Good Friday Agreement. It is an international treaty lodged as such with the United Nations.
What the UK do on it's Irish border is restricted by that treaty. If the UK decides to break the terms of the treaty just like that, they can.
The Republic of Ireland is not going to be dragged around or dictated to by the racist brexit voters in order to make things work the way those racists want.
The end of the peace process is under threat because of those racist brexit voters.
No way should the Republic bow to the wishes of the brexit lobby, more like that without an agreement on the Irish electricity arrangements post brexit the Republic of Ireland should stop any electricity they generate going to any part of the UK.
Then there is air traffic cooperation to abandon, and I am sure other things too.
Brexit voters want to break an international treaty, once they do that all bets are off.
I reckon the wider EU would be similarly inclined too.
Brexiters have your no deal brexit, I hope the consequences lead to a huge reality check for the racist brexiters and the EU make the third country UK beg for everything they ask for. The EU will be doing us a favour in withdrawing all cooperation with the UK, why should the EU cooperate with an institutionally racist UK that can't keep to their word?

 

They have the same mentality as their hero Trump. He also broke a UN Treaty with Iran. They are lawless people.

 

That's your lot, if this was WWII, you'd want another power in Europe to control UK like the blackshirts did. The EU is like the third reich; I bet you vote Labour and yearn for a Jeremy Corbyn government. The only other political party than the BNP to be investigated for racism.
Why is it, in a country like UK, all the people protesting in Westminster are white?
Answer me that fact.

I've seen more colour in the Prime Minister's cabinet than I have seen in people protesting Boris Johnson, why are they all white!? Where are all the black people? Where did all these white people come from? Why are they all white???

 

If EU was a country, wouldn't people from all over the EU rush to UK to protest?
EU isn't a country, countries in the EU protest about their own things; You don't see Brits in Greece protesting the EU or Greeks in UK protesting the PM about the EU whenever something kicks off on the EU level, but in America, something happens in one state, and people across the United States protest. United States is a country, EU is no United States, the EU isn't sovereign, UK is sovereign, red white and blue, black brown and white (in no order whatsoever on the last one). If UK wants to leave the EU, UK gets to leave the EU, not the EU gets to lock the UK to the EU.

Tell EU no Border no lawsuit after Brexit and have Ireland vote for Brexit customs in NI and ROI and EU to grant ROI special status being an island nation in the British isles close to UK with the Good Friday Agreement; or have the EU erect a border and retain ROI the EU's customs.

Why not give the Irish a freedom of border checks from the EU, and not from any deal UK gets if it's fine with other parties in any trade deal UK gets (to invite the EU into any Brexit deals by way of ROI); why can't the EU allow for Ireland to allow the benefits of meaning the Schengen means the EU customs and the British Isle remains UK and EU with the island of Ireland and out of EU customs since it's already out of the Schengen?

 

Why not give the Irish a freedom of border checks from the EU, and not from any deal UK gets if it's fine with other parties in any trade deal UK gets (to invite the EU into any Brexit deals by way of ROI); why can't the EU allow for Ireland to allow the benefits of meaning the Schengen means the EU customs and the British Isles becomes UK and EU with the island of Ireland and out of EU customs since it's already out of the Schengen?**

I got timed out in editing, but such a solution would ensure there is no hard border between UK and Ireland and that Ireland and the EU can benefit from Brexit deals too.

 

Boris is crapping on Northern Ireland and Scotland.

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How long Britain will be able to force its colonial rule will become problematic.

BoJo may be making Britain 'Great' no more.

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Well I think that is Ireland not N Ireland so not a colony. Some Brexiters have suggested they are going to threaten to bankrupt Ireland unless she does what they want. I am not sure of the ins and outs of this but they have suggested so on this forum.

 

Wishful thinking. The "chaos" part will end soon enough but the British economy will struggle from now on. Trade deals are difficult to negotiate even when you have something valuable to trade. Just ask Canada and Australia that have a lot of natural resources.

 

The EU doesn't need a hard Brexit. You sound like an EU-hating Trumpite.

 

Exactly. Investment in the UK will drop off unless business can be certain of having easy, guaranteed access to the EU market. Brexit types don't want to tie themselves to EU trade policies closely enough to assure businesses locating in the UK long-term EU access.

 

Sad, I pegged her for a futurePrime Minister, she is a terrific little lady. She'll probably come back though once her kids are grown. No Scottish breakaway, the referendum was a once in a lifetime vote and we'll not have another, the UK is secure.

 

Brexiteers aren't racist, the Irish Free State will have to come to an agreement with us because the rest of the EU are damn well going to screw them over to protect their own economies. And for the record, I voted remain.

 

We defeated both, remember? We're the land of hope and glory and mother of the free.

 

No he isn't, the Union is secure and we don't have any colonies any more, we gave that up along with everyone else in the 60s. Brexit was a UK wide vote and the country as a whole will abide by the decision.

 

This is akin to saying the Chihuahua is going to lead the Great Dane around. Won't happen. The long-term prospect is the UK will consist of England and Wales.

The WTO will be the default for the UK, not the existing relationship with the EU.

 

Until Scotland and Northern Ireland leave the UK.

 

Do you think they axiomatically became racist when they put their cross next to leave?
If not, and leave means only just that 'leave' did those voters vote to remain joined?
If those voters did not vote to remain joined, and they knew what they were voting for, what plan did they have for two divergent systems either side of a land border?
Surely not to leave, but in Ireland only to pretend to have left?

 

My father fought in Burma against the Japanese, I'm not sure what version of blackshirt/brownshirt the Japanese had.
I am mindful that history is understandably written by the winners, but maybe that land of hope and glory was (at the time) also the land of a crushing colonial power, and not the mother of the free for all of the peoples it dominated.

 

How would that happen? Even if parliament agreed with referendums most people wouldn't vote for it purely for economic reasons.