Russia’s newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO

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  1. Destroyer of illusions

    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    Once again, Bravo!
     
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    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Forgive me as my Russia is not as good as it once was ...are you using the word Tago to mean DAY or Night Nurse or it also has meaning is Esperanto?

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    I am not Political....I supplied Security with My Team for U.S. Military Weapons Destruction and Clean Up Crews in Georgia, Ukrain and other Old Soviet States as well as in Russia itself.

    In Russia....there were the ansolute WORSE SITES.....Old Soviet Biological Weons Labs....they just left them and children were playing inside.

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    And remaining rogue KGB agents hunting them with wild bear packs and feasting on their bodies. But they all were successfully captured, including their leader - Lenin zombie, which is preserved in resin in Kremlin for everyone's amusement.
     
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    Now your just posting idiocy.

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    Destroyer of illusions Banned

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    This slang. Means "and", "the same", "also". maybe I'm wrong to use the American Grammar. But I do not speak English.
     
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    There are plenty of things that are not perfect in the U.S.....but we have the rights and the powers to change such things.....under Putin....you do not.

    The average American Family lives at a Standard of Living that equals the Standard of Living of a Wealthy Russian.

    My Russian Friends....most former Counter party.....or the Soviet Equal to me.....now are forgotten...living in Moscow High Rises with now A/C and no heat working so they cut out holes through a window of through concrete so they can install a wood burning stove and it's exhaust.

    Most have immigrated to the U.S. but mny stay and I ask them why they stay and they tell me because they love Russia and feel if they leave they can't help solve the problems.....but Putin has control of everything.

    Putin is also DESPERATE.....and as the history of former Soviet ot Russian Leaders is not exactly good...Putin continues to change the Russian Contitution to stay in power as long as he can.

    There is ZERO CHANCE of an Russian/American War....0% Chance.

    This is all Putin Propaganda.

    Don't believe it.

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    OK....thanks....I forgot...as it has been awhile.

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    This is the way I see things working out for the better.

    Now as the world now knows....the amount of Oil existing in North American is 5 to 6 times that as the total Oil Reserves in the entire Middle East.

    And we have incalcuable amounts of Natural Gas.

    We also have the worlds largest reserves of Coal who we mostly sell to the Chinese.

    Thus out of all Nations...the United States HAS ABSOLUTELY ZERO NEED OF RUSSIAN SIBERIAN OIL OR GAS!

    What I worry about and Putin hismeld worries about is allowing China to great a hold or accesss to Russian WESTERN SIBERIAN OIL AND NATURAL GAS!!!

    90% to 95% of all Oil and Natural Gas Deposits exist in WESTERN SIBERIA....as although some exist exist in eastern siberia which Russia seels to China.....China wants to use Russia's poor economic state to create an agreement to allow China accesss to Western Siberian Oil and Natural Gas.

    The thing is China does not have either the technical capability or the expertise to do this and trial and error will cost Russia BILLIONS OF DLLARS!!!

    There only exist two Nations who are experienced and highly capable of doing this...Canada and the U.S.

    China CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO GROW UNCHECKED!!!

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    Who gave you such right? This is the same nonsense as talk of "exceptional nation." Russian will fight against it 100%. And nuclear war will not stop Russian.
    Have you noticed that before the imposition of sanctions against Russia, Putin had rating of 60-65%. After the imposition of sanctions, Putin has a rating of 86%.
    In case of war, Putin's rating is 100%.
     
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    If something like that causes the Russians to go to war, the Russians must be really scared of the U.S..
     
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    This is where the stupidity of those who control Washington comes in. They do not know Russian history, and the historical experiences of the Russian people. They're thinking of times when the US was a respected nation and a beacon of light to the world. When it could bring prosperity to nations instead of poverty, and when it could bring democracy to nations instead of tyranny. A time when they weren't imposing their own values, or rather non values on other nations. They assumed that by putting a little economic pressure on the Russian people they would cave in to what the Washington propaganda's machines were offering.

    Even if Washington did offer prosperity and not serfdom, the imposition of the West's social values would have been fought tooth and nail by the Russian people...because of one reason, and this is where Washington's Foreign Relations Department have proven themselves total idiots: The Russian people have never been conquered and have never been subservient to any other nation, therefore they will never acquiesce to any nation. This is why Putin said he will not speak to Obama unless he is given an equal respect.

     
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    Russian always fought. No nation in the world has fought so many, as fought Russian. Russian is also now ready to fight. In addition, many are ready to fight immediately. They are not afraid of death. Die in battle - a great honor.
     
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    Not true, they were under the Mongolian thumb for centuries,along with the time of troubles when the Polloks were in charge. But your right after Peter (*)(*)(*)(*)ed the Swedes up, Russia has never been brought down to her knees again. Her people are spiritual, and freedom means more then hearty meals, and comfy homes.
     
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    Like free speech in Russia? Interesting how those that speak freely about hating their tyrant, Putin, end up in prison or dead. But yes, go ahead and talk about American freedoms...lol. A Russian lecturing about Freedom is like a member of the KKK preaching about African American rights.
     
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    beautiful comment.
     
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    I've trained with the French many times. I've used their weapons systems and tactics. Would you like to compare our experiences?
     
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    I'm was thinking of the Russian nation after Peter the Great. But you're right about them being spiritual. Maintaining their own cultural values and beliefs do mean more to them than the Western values of a new car and new washing machine. Not that they don't like them, but it's not the most important thing in their lives.

    This is where Vladimir Putin and the West clash, and this is where Russia has always clashed with the West. These impositions throughout the centuries have always been fought tooth and nail.
     
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    I also know about a mob of Soviets soldiers who raped and plundered their way across Europe towards Berlin.
    And that's exactly what it was, an out of control mob, no discipline or order.

    Now I wasn't there, but I have personally known hundreds who were and survived.
     
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    Russia is the freest country in the world.
     
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    according to Vladimir Putin
     
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    Let me explain something. When the Washington controlled press mentions that Putin is going to limit the foreign ownership of newspapers and hinder free speech, what they are not telling you is that the ownership of the foreign press has always been limited in the US, Australia, Canada, etc. In other words Vladimir Putin is bringing Russian press up to par with the press in other countries. No nation would ever allow what the foreign owned press like the Moscow Times was able to print in Russia.

    This is why the American people are laughed at in other nations as being brainwashed by their government. Come on now, do you really think that the American people would ever accept arming a Nazi government in Kiev committing genocide against its own people if they knew about it? Do you think they would allow supporting Jihadists in Turkey, a nation that is allied with ISIS if they knew about it? Instead they are told that the Al Nusra/Al Queda jihadists they're training are 'moderates'. There is no such things as moderates because all the Syrian people are supporting Assad and are in the Syrian army.

    As soon as these 'moderates' get trained and armed, they will join ISIS and Washington damn well knows it. All they care about is that Assad leaves so that they can get that pipeline through Syria, and screw Russia. They know very well that if Assad is defeated all the Christians, Shias, Alawites and moderate Sunnis will be massacred...and Washington doesn't care.
     
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    Russia is limited to being a regional power, and many Russians can’t accept that Ukraine is a separate state seeking its own destiny. All the sabre rattling about destroying America with nuclear weapons is about on the same level as Kim Jong-un. Do Russians honestly think they would spared? Our U.S. Navy retains the largest fleet of active ballistic missile submarines in the World. If D.C goes up...Moscow will soon follow.

    We go, you go...it's why rationally, any discussion of nuclear war retains it's mutually assured destruction prophesy. Russia will remain a regional power as they're able to bully their way around a few former Soviet bloc nations but on a global stage, they are regarded as a 2nd Tier nation now, buth economically and militarily. Your days of being a Superpower are finished. 60% of Russia's economy is petrol based, they could never sustain, economically, defense spending equivalent to what the United States is cabable of. Hence the tough talk about "nuking" everyone who opposes them....like I said.

    We go up...you go up.

    Moscow will be reduced to molten glass if Putin so much as let's go a nuclear fart in the direction of the United States.
     
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    Can you prove it? Or is it another propaganda chatter? And by the way, your friends told you about the bombing, for example, Dresden?

    A few photos "terrible" of the Red Army. Berlin 1945.

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    Unexpectedly? Is not it? Do not believe the Western media. Learn to think for themselves.
     
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    According words to any person who can think for themselves.
     
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    Russia's long history is one in which 'Freedom' has meant simply being abused by their own government and not some invaders government. The abuse is the same. Individual, western style freedom is very rare in Russia's history.
     

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