Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

This will hit the identity-theft hackers hard. How will they spend other peoples' money?

 

I'm not convinced those MIGs will be forthcoming.

Poland was willing to step up but feckless U.S. and Western invertebrates got cold feet:

U.S. rejects Poland's offer to give it Russian-made fighter jets for Ukraine
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...sion-give-it-fighter-jets-ukraine-2022-03-08/

The real reason why the U.S. rejected Poland’s plans to get jets to Ukraine
https://www.deseret.com/u-s-world/2022/3/9/22968938/us-rejects-polish-plane-ukraine-whats-happening

 

I once served a year in the middle of the Liberian Civil War, where all the combatants were ineffective except when facing unarmed civilians. Now that the Russians have used their artillery on a children's/maternity hospital, I put them in the same category as the Liberians.

 

I figure it will happen eventually, one way or another.

 

Looks like Ukraine is getting Starstreak systems from the UK.

 

It's good to know somebody in the West has some balls...

 

Bombing civilian areas is SOP for the Russian military.

 

Correction: This was apparently a Russian air strike, not Russian artillery. Doesn't change my conclusion.

 

Hmm. Will they make a big difference over previous anti-air MANPADS? I see that they are less susceptible to counter-measures, but I don't know if they could hit aircraft that Stingers couldn't.

 

Starstreak seem to have longer range and is faster than the stinger. I do not know if they will be better, but the UK seem to present these as an improvement.

 

Folks, a little reality here. There's only 2 possible outcomes militarily. Either Russia wins or it's WW3.

What is fast becoming obvious is how much blowback we're seeing from the sanctions we've put on Russia. We've basically "gone nuclear" with sanctions. The Russians are finding workarounds already for most of these. Amazon Prime video may force surrender, though.

Here at home, Biden is sucking up to Iran and Venezuela. Saudi Arabia and the UAE wont even take his phone call. All sorts of commodities are going through the roof and we're all guaranteed even more inflation than we were already suffering coupled with supply shortages. The word 'stagflation' is being increasingly tossed around.

So, yeah, let's cut our own throat "standing with Ukraine" in a hopeless cause.

GLORY TO UKRAINE!!

 

A keyboard warrior, you are the last person to talk about anyone having balls or not. You know where Ukraine is. You can't even take a bit of constructive criticism on this forum let alone fight the real battles. You can't take it, can you?

 

IMO, Biden support Ukrainian pilots fly the MiGs directly out of Poland ASAP.

“The Russian invasion of Ukraine is reinforcing the value of simple, shoulder-fired missiles. As Western arsenals empty their stockpiles, flowing some 17,000 “fire-and-forget” missiles into Ukraine, the small rockets risk being consumed faster than the West can currently replace them.”


“One particular concern is the Iowa Army Ammunition Plant, near the small southeast Iowa town of Middleton, where melt-pour explosive experts craft Stinger and Javelin warheads. First opened in 1941, the plant has seen little investment since.

The facility is showing its age. In 2017, U.S. Rep. Dave Loebsack (D-Iowa), warned that the “nation’s primary large caliber ammunition melt-pour facility” was outdated, “requiring manual touch labor and lacking the adaptability needed for implementing new manufacturing technologies.” His concern—stemming from the facility’s history of lethal industrial accidents—was well-founded, and, in late 2018, the aging plant was rocked by an explosion.

That incident helped spark a wholesale renovation of the Army’s ammunition industrial base. In Iowa, old, unsafe structures are coming down and the sprawling site’s roads, rails, sewer system and other utilities are being replaced. In 2020, the Army held a groundbreaking for a centralized solid and hazardous waste facility. More improvements are on the way.

But the renovations, when coupled with added manufacturing demands, will stress one of America’s few small rocket warhead production lines. If more missiles are needed, the the plant will need to speed up, likely incorporating new and inexperienced workers. Mothballed equipment may need to be brought back online. And, if the Stinger replacement needs to be accelerated, the plant’s warhead production lines may need substantial retooling to address production of both missiles. That’s hard enough to do with an established plant, let alone one that is undergoing a wholesale renovation.”
FORBES, Ukraine’s Use Of Stinger And Javelin Missiles Is Outstripping U.S. Production, By Craig Hooper, 3/8/22.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/craigh...s-outstripping-us-production/?sh=5a93a4f2409e

 

Interesting. Who would have thought that production was in need of updating? Looks like a good side benefit to all of this material support going to Ukraine.

 

Ukrainian Air Force report. For the duration of the war, Russians lost:
56 fighter jets.
82 helicopters.

Russian fascists continue to lose their expensive toys.

 

That assumes that Putin is a traitor and not a patriot. That seems very unlikely.
Putin and Russia can only win this war if the rest of the West lets that happen.

As soon is it becomes clear that this invasion will not succeed Putin will negotiate a withdrawal from Ukraine and start fixing his failed military and intelligence structure, or pass that job on to someone else.

 

Yes.

"First opened in 1941, the plant has seen little investment since."

WTF!

 

Next 3 nights in Ukraine will be quite cold, below +20F.
Quite a few conscripts will be killed by the Mother Nature, as they have limited supplies and quite a few ran out of fuel.

 

The MiG-29 idea died because people talked about it.

 

It's not dead yet, though.

I just wish national leaders would man up and be willing to risk Putin's stern looks and angry threats over handing these things over to Ukraine.

 

Russia confirms it has used thermobaric weapons, says UK's Ministry of Defence

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-...weapons-says-uks-ministry-of-defence-12561830

 

Biden, Zellensky, and Putin need to get together and end this. Give Putin the Crimea and guarantee neutrality for Ukraine. Put non Western UN peacekeepers in the Donbas. Lift all sanctions that affect Russian people.

Biden can take credit for galvanizing NATO and forcing Putin to back down.

Zellensky can remain in power and be a hero for defending Ukraine from complete Russian takeover.

Putin can say he accomplished greater security for Russia, and forced the West to back down on economic warfare.

Everyone can go home with a way to spin it as a victory, and the suffering of ordinary people can end today.

 

Mach 4 and has 3 warheads laser guided and range around 7km.

 

It goes to show that Putin is selfish and cannot be trusted.

 

1) Biden doesn't want to meet with Putin, nor will he accept any calls. Israel and Turkey are helping the negotiations, and, based on these discussions, the US position and rhetoric seems to be one of recalcitrance.

2) Based on the hard-line discourse taking place in our media, the peace deal you envision will not be politically advantageous to the Biden Administration, who is already getting enormous criticism from Zelensky for doing too little, which has come too late. Plus, many countries have not been fully enforcing the sanctions against Russian, because they are impossible to comply with at this stage due to lack of resource production and difficult, and potentially cataclysmic, socio-economic situations. The US did not prepare itself or our allies for the shortfall in resources, so the sanctions will continue to hit the US much harder than some anticipated.

3) Putin being able to say he forced the West to back down if such a peach deal goes into force is why it's incredibly unlikely to happen.

4) I think too many people will see through the spin. What you are proposing might seem reasonable to us, but it will not be taken that way by people who have been told that "Putin is another Hitler that wants to take Eastern Europe".

In all honesty, I think the Biden Administration loves the situation. They get to appease the military industrial complex selling arms to NATO countries, and the NeoCon Bush/Clinton Coalition on both sides of the aisle. They get to frivolously blame Putin as the sole cause for energy price spikes that they needed in order to push people towards Green Tech and EVs. They will most assuredly get the precious metals from overseas so they can appease environmental extremists that lose their minds and resist whenever there is a mine proposed in any state.