Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

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    Its at the 48 second mark Billy. Plain as day that skull has been cut across the front, the top, the side & it looks like the back too. The camera even lingers on it. Not like you could miss it....unless you wanted to. LIke I said, when you make propaganda for brainwashed peasants you get sloppy.

    Oh, and yes, shrapnel of uniform size & shape. I guess it could be ball bearings, but it seems like an awfully small number.

    Face facts Billy, you are treating the work of a liar & propagandist as fact. The only question is if you know this, or you have convinced yourself the lies are true.

     
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    U.S. Sends Ukraine New Weapons Systems Every Day, Says WH Adviser


    Special advisor for communications at the White House National Security Council, Matt Miller, joins Morning Joe to discuss how the U.S. is providing support to Ukrainian forces every day.​

    There is more than is publicly disclosed or known about. :thumbsup:
     
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    We need to start getting heavier offensive weapons to the Ukrainians so they cab dig the Russians out of the territory they currently hold:

    Ukrainian presidential adviser calls for heavier weaponry as Russia shifts military focus
    By Julia Presniakova, Nathan Hodge and Radina Gigova, CNN
    Updated 4:20 PM ET, Sat April 2, 2022
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/02/europe/russia-ukraine-heavier-weaponry-military-focus-intl/index.html

    Western governments start to heed Zelenskyy's call to send Ukraine more offensive heavy weapons to defeat Putin's army
    Alia Shoaib
    Apr 2, 2022,
    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-...ensive weapons if it's going to defeat Russia.

    Czech Republic equipping 'heavy mechanized brigades' in race to arm Ukraine
    by Joel Gehrke, Foreign Affairs Reporter |
    April 05, 2022 03:11 PM
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...vy-mechanized-brigades-in-race-to-arm-ukraine
     
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    Yep. I also hear they've been getting coastal defenses from the UK to help keep Odessa safe from Rashka's rustbucket fleet. Seems that now that the Ukrainians have proven their worth, they are getting much better equipment.
     
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    Good news. :beer:
     
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    We'll seek friendship with Russia if it ever escapes its authoritarianism, perhaps. Until then, it's Ulus of Jochi all over again.
     
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    Time for Ukraine to expand the war to Russian cities and towns and begin destroying their country ????
     
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    It's the Guardian, what can one expect. Aren't they the ones who were taking pictures of the winter resort in Socchi in the summer, and the summer resort in the winter to show how empty it was? Honesty is not exactly their forte'.

    I came across a lot of evidence proving that Russian soldiers did not commit the atrocities, so the image no doubt is another Ukrainian fake. Other than assassinations, false flags seems to be one of their specialties.

    Even the Pentagon refuses to verify the Russians committed the crime. And yet like the shoot down of the airliner in Ukraine and like the accusations of genocide against Miloshevik, the perceptions will remain in people's minds - which is Washington's real intent.

    There will be no headlines in the MSM saying that it wasn't the Russian soldiers, and that the Azov neonazi unit of the Ukrainian army killed them because they were being friendly to the Russians. Some of the bodies even held in their hands the rations the Russians had given them. Other than that some were wearing white arm bands meaning they were neutral.

    There is even a video of one of the Nazis asking if he should kill those who are not wearing blue arm bands, and his commander says yes.

    Anyway the truth will be hidden the same as it was with Miloshevic, who was found innocent after death. Also the same as it was with the Malaysian airliner that was shot down. When the investigative reporter Robert Parry of Consortium news asked the Washington agent why they're not telling the American people the truth now that they know for sure it was not Russia, he replied: "It's because Russia has everything going for it in Ukraine, but all we have is our propaganda." Deception, brainwashing? Of course!

    As for the war, Russia is winning since armies can't fight unless they have supplies and reinforcements, and as far as I know Russia has been bombing their supplies continuously. The 70 to 90 thousand Ukrainian army in Donbass are trapped, they can't escape.

    Will Azov and the other neo Nazis allow the men to surrender? I doubt it - so there goes all of Ukraine's young men and the future of their country. They have Victoria Nuland to thank for that.
     
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    Yes the entire worlds foreign correspondents have been deceived by those crafty Ukrainians . TOTAL BULLSHIT JEANETTE you know damn well it was the RUSSIANS, YOUR FELLOW COUNTRYMEN WHO SLAUGHTERED ALL THOSE PEOPLE AND DECIMATED UKRAINES CITIES AND TOWNS. TIME FOR THE UKRAINIANS TO START DESTROYING INSIDE RUSSIA AND KILLING IT"S INHA BITANTS.
     
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    Probably it was the "ghost of Kiev" flying around open cockpit using his sidearm. That "ghost of Kiev" has super powers :clapping::laughing:
     
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    Now the latest on the war. Two helicopters were shot down again as they tried for a third time to extricate Azovs forces from the Azovstal factory where they're held up along with Nato officers. According to the Russians, one of them is a senior US Officer. Sounds like Syria, where there were always agents embedded with the terrorists.

    Again the Russians told the Ukrainian army to stop hostilities and to lay to down their arms and leave Mariupol on the agreed route to the area controlled by Kiev. But, as before, the Ukrainian side ignored the proposal. Are they ignoring it out of fear of Azov, because some members of the Ukrainian army surrendered yesterday because they feared Azov more than they did the DPR.


     
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    More deluded lies.
     
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    #7672 is a fine answer.
     
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    You're doubling down on lies.
    Ukraine round-up: The evidence vs Russian denials - BBC
    https://www.bbc.com › news › world-europe-60997639


    3 hours ago — Ukraine has accused Russia of war crimes, and has support in the West, with US President Joe Biden saying Russia's Vladimir Putin should stand ...
    In Bucha, and other areas of Ukraine recently occupied by Russia, a horrific picture has emerged. Bodies laid out in the street. Others dumped in shallow graves, hands tied behind their backs. Locals describing men being rounded up and shot.

    Ukraine has accused Russia of war crimes, and has support in the West, with US President Joe Biden saying Russia's Vladimir Putin should stand trial.

    Russia denies killing civilians, and has accused Ukraine of staging the deaths to discredit its troops.

    So who to believe? Establishing what has happened in a conflict zone is notoriously difficult: simply getting access can be tricky.

    But, on top of our reporters witnessing evidence of atrocities, the BBC's verification specialists can learn a lot from images and video.

    What they've established contradicts Russia's denials. There is strong and growing evidence that war crimes have been committed by Russia.
     
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    The Russians can shovel as much nonsense as they wish. The entire world knows what you've done and what you are defending.
     
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    The wolves, our ruling political class, have been chewing off big chunks of the COTUS since Reconstruction. I suppose the revolutionary "Spirit of 76" might eventually inspire the people to rise up and just say no. But that assumes that this ultimate check on central power still exists.

    "Jefferson, however, refused to be consoled. He feared an 'elective despotism* as bad as, or worse than, the tyranny they had risen against : 'If once [our people]
    become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress and Assemblies, Judges and Governors, shall all become wolves.'* 37

    And while it is true that historical developments in the United
    States have hardly borne out this fear, it is also true that
    this is almost exclusively due to the founders' 'political science' in establishing a government in which the "divisions of powers have constituted through checks and balances their own control.

    What eventually saved the United States from the dangers which Jefferson feared was the machinery of government; but this machinery could not save the people from lethargy and inattention to public business, since the Constitution itself provided a public space only for the representatives of the people, and not for the people themselves.

    It may seem strange that only Jefferson among the men of
    the American Revolution ever asked himself the obvious question of how to preserve the revolutionary spirit once the revolution had come to an end, but the explanation for this lack of awareness does not lie in that they themselves were no revolutionaries. On the contrary, the trouble was that they took this spirit for granted, because it was a spirit which had been formed and nourished throughout the colonial period."
    ON REVOLUTION, Hannnah Arendt, Penguin Classics, NY, NY, 2006. p. 230
    https://archive.org/stream/OnRevolution/ArendtOn-revolution_djvu.txt
     
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    Russia invaded Ukraine. Case closed.
     
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    The Russians have also proven to be war criminals guilty of horrific crimes.

    It will take generations to live this down. The Russians are now the enemies of the civilized world.
     
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    The international press has been very critical of Ukraine and Zelensky before this flagrant act of Russian aggression.
    The press is reporting against its previous bias, which makes the reporting especially credible.
     
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    Heh...
     
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    LMAO.

    Apparently you meant crash landing.
     
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