Russia Declares War on Ukraine<<MOD WARNING>>

So much for javelins....the US is about to run out of them. The Russians I'm sure are thankful for all those they've acquired...either by capture or the black market. The USG is so stupid.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...pentagon-has-a-supply-chain-problem#xj4y7vzkg

https://www.rt.com/news/556876-javelin-supply-shortages-delivery/

 

I have my moments.

 

Well I guess that is it for Ukraine Billy. Javelins are the only AT weapons they have, so they'll just have to surrender now. Oh well. I guess you'll get that genocide after all.

Now, on to unresolved business. Did you ever dig up that 'NATO-Russia treaty' where NATO promises not to expand? You said it existed. Do you have any links or relevant quotes?

 

I still think a majority would. Thus far the bulk have ignored Trump & his hard core followers. I think that would remain the case....for now.

 

Hiroshima bomb wiped out everything within a one mile radius.

This is NUKEMAP
NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein (nuclearsecrecy.com)

A typical 300 kt American nuke, detonated at the Statue of Liberty in NY, would not effect Harlem.
However, if in Harlem then stay indoors, wash your clothes - for about a week there's going to be fallout.

 

Hiroshima was an air burst .. which have low contamination compared to a ground burst .. gonna have to stay indoors for longer than a week if your downwind.

 

And there's going to be a lot of other problems as well....

 

'There was no promise not to enlarge NATO' - Harvard Law ...
https://today.law.harvard.edu › there-was-no-promise-n...

Mar 16, 2022 — Nor does the treaty on Germany's unification include a limit on NATO enlargement. Those facts have undermined one of Russian President ...

Gorbachev: His Life and Times - Google Books Result
https://books.google.com › books

William Taubman · 2017 · ‎Biography & Autobiography
30 When Kohl saw Gorbachev the next day, he confirmed Baker's promise that ... soon as Baker and Kohl uttered their promises, Bush began to take them back.

 

Instead of just using this map and looking at radius of the bomb, you have to think more realistic here as to the effects of just one single nuke and the impact it would have. You can't just shrug this off like "stay inside for a few weeks and wash your clothing regularly and you should be good to go!" kind of ignorance. The causality of such an event would be catastrophic. That map doesn't even account for fallout which is a much larger radius where radioactive debris launched in the atmosphere eventually comes down and settles.

And understand this; if a nuke is detonated over Harlem. There is no more Harlem. This isn't like the world trade centers where we just rebuild after the dust settles. That's not how this works. The entire area would be radioactive for decades/centuries to come.

This is a more realistic take as to the side effects of a nuclear bomb on the United States. They are an expert. You are not. It would be catastrophic to say the least.

https://www.businessinsider.com/nuclear-bomb-attack-russia-ukraine-how-strong-far-2022-2?op=1
"Say you're in a city, and you are far enough away from the blast center that you don't get a lethal dose of radiation — you are very likely going to be injured by a falling building or have third-degree burns over a large portion of your body," Drozdenko said, adding: "There are not enough empty burn beds in all of the United States to deal with even a single nuclear attack on one city in the US."

The side effects/impacts of a nuclear bomb on just one major city is going to be a disaster.

 

The Pootster is deeply deluded.

Putin likens himself to Peter the Great, links imperial expansion to Ukraine war
By Amy Cheng and Reis Thebault

 

The media is having a field day with this one. Some freebies:

Putin undermined his own rationale for invading Ukraine, saying that the war is to expand Russian territory
https://news.yahoo.com/putin-undermined-own-rationale-invading-093128419.html


Ukraine Latest: Baltics Take Aim at Putin Over Czarist Comments
https://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-latest-finance-chief-appeals-063753461.html

 

Ukraine: troops holding on in Sievierodonetsk despite being 'outnumbered 5 to 1' | Ukraine latest

The Ukrainian military said it is repelling Russian attacks near the key Donbas city of Sievierodonetsk. Meanwhile, Vladimir Putin has compared himself to Peter the Great.

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak has responded to Vladimir Putin's comparing himself to Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth. He said the comment showed, "there was no 'conflict,' only the country's bloody seizure under contrived pretexts of people's genocide." Podolyak responded to a speech by the present-day Russian leader comparing Russia's current conflict in Ukraine with Peter's 21-year war with Sweden. Podolyak wrote on Twitter that Putin's utterances made it clear that the world should not talk about "saving [Russian] face" but about "immediate de-imperialization."

President Vladimir Putin spoke of the need for Russia to "take back (territory) and defend itself" in a speech to mark the 350th anniversary of Tsar Peter the Great's birth. Putin compared himself to the conquering monarch and drew parallels between Peter's founding of St. Petersburg and his own government's annexation of territory. Peter the Great gave his name to St. Petersburg — Putin's hometown — that he ordered built on land he conquered from Sweden. "When he founded the new capital, no European country recognized it as Russia. Everybody recognized it as Sweden,'' Putin said. "And Slavic people had always lived there along with Finno-Ugric people, and the territory was under the control of the Russian state.'"What was he doing? Taking back and reinforcing. That's what he did. And it looks like it fell on us to take back and reinforce as well,'' he said. A senior adviser to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy rejected Putin's comments as an attempt to legalize the theft of land. "The West must draw a clear red line so the Kremlin understands the price of each next bloody step ... we will brutally liberate our territories," Mykhailo Podolyak said in an online post.

The Ukrainian armed forces said its troops are still holding onto the key Donbas city of Sievierodonetsk amid heavy Russian attacks. "The occupiers, with the help of motorized rifle units and artillery, conducted assault operations in the city of Sievierodonetsk. They were not successful; the fighting continues," the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine said in a update. The Ukrainian military said it fought back Russian forces from the village of Toshkivkha, located near Sievierodonetsk.​

The video also interviews and discusses foreigners, including Belarusians, fighting against Russia in Ukraine. Apparently they have enough now to form a regiment. The Belarusians' motto is "first Ukraine, then Belarus."

 

For Ukraine, this has gotten to be a fight for survival and Ukraine had given its all for this war against Russia and still won't give up and will keep pushing to its end. Putin's intention of taking over Ukraine and bringing back the Soviet Union is still intended and Putin will keep at it and at it and at it until he gets what he wants and it will be chaos in the area.

 

Sure, and we won't really know until it eventually happens. But if you want to nuke NY you need a grid of bombs, which is what Russia and America have planned in a civilian nuclear attack. But really, it's a waste of bombs - it does nothing for the war itself. Yes, it's the other effects you also worry about. Agreed. America needs to have an effective civil evacuation program - reckon they should spend at least 10% of their military budget on it.

 

Yawn.

 

Very "scientific". Very boring. Wonderful logical counter argument.

Do better.

 

The single nuclear bomb in our atmosphere wiping out all of our electrical devices and communications is kind of scary.

Back in the 60's, bomb shelters were all the rage. I wonder if they make a comeback as this **** escalate.

Now while I am hypothesising a "what if" scenario of Russia bombing us. The reaction onto Russia from the world fold would remove Russia from the map. There would be no more Russia. Our second strike capability is beyond theirs.

Which is exactly why they haven't dropped a bomb on us.

 

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Fake news yet again. The Ukies high tailed it out of there 2 days ago.

 

Are you upset that nobody wants to rejoin Russia? That this action has now given incentive for Sweden and Poland to join NATO?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ey-attacked-before-nato-accession-2022-05-19/

Even without Nato, Putin is unifying several Nations to join forces lol.

Have you come to terms that Putin is a tired old fashioned dictator, and Russia in general is a complete **** hole?

Just curious.

 

You are merely participating in the Pootster's fear campaign. We are not afraid.

 

No. You are being overly sensitive like a ******* who can't accept the reality of the effects of a ****ing NUCLEAR BOMB. You can't "shrug it off"

This works both ways if that makes your feelings less sensitive. If we Nuked a Russian city, I would suspect that their humanitarian response would be more lacking and severe as less neighbouring countries would be offering aid of any kind.

They would be more ****ed.

That make you feel better?

 

You are talking to delusional people. They believe that they might win a nuclear war. Whether the USA strikes first or not, it's irrelevant. It will cease to exist.


https://www.military.com/history/russias-dead-hand-soviet-built-nuclear-doomsday-device.html

Perimeter would launch a command rocket, tipped with a radio warhead that transmits launch orders to Russian nuclear silos, even with the presence of radio jamming. The rocket would fly across the entire length of the country. After a number of test launches to prove the viability of such a command rocket, the Perimeter system went online in 1985.

The Soviet Union never confirmed that such a system ever existed, but Russian Strategic Missile Forces Gen. Sergey Karakaev confirmed it to a Russian newspaper in 2011, saying the U.S. could be destroyed in 30 minutes. Russian state media outlets suggest the system was upgraded to include radar early warning systems and Russia's new hypersonic missiles.

In the United States, similar technologies were developed. Seismic and radiation sensors are used to monitor parts of the U.S. and the world for nuclear explosions and other activity, but the U.S. military never created an automatic trigger for its arsenal. Instead, it ensured that American humans with the ability and authority to launch a second strike would survive a first strike.

Since the Perimeter is reportedly still active, the danger of an automatic, computer-generated nuclear strike still exists. Now that Russian President Vladimir Putin has put Russia's nuclear weapons on high alert, he might have taken Russia's doomsday device on notice as well.

 

Maybe you should grasp the concept of the FIRST LINE:

"Proceeding from the principle that the security of all states in the Euro-Atlantic community is indivisible, NATO and Russia will work together to contribute to the establishment in Europe of common and comprehensive security based on the allegiance to shared values, commitments and norms of behaviour in the interests of all states."

It's about mutual security. In other words, if NATO is doing something that infringes on the security of Russia, then that's an issue. It's the whole ****ing point of mutual security.

 

I just heard Garry Kasparov being interviewed on Yahoo! Finance Live, and he agrees with Dimon (and me) -- Ukraine should be given more by the US and France and Germany. They need more heavy weapons and we shouldn't be leaving out aiming equipment or munitions for these weapon systems. We need Ukraine to win this, and we therefore need to give Ukraine everything we can afford and that they can use effectively.

 

Support the Nazis at all costs! You can't make this up. The West has lost it's mind.