Russia on the brink of collapse

Whether there was a need to drop nuclear bombs on Japan - historians argue and now these (50/50) Anyway Nuclear bombing together with incendiary bombs, also use of the chemical weapon in Vietnam, bombing Dresden,modern UAVs showed to the world that if USA will attack someone , they can use any weapon to distroy all on the way and peoples and territory. The countries like Russia, Iran, China, India and some other they must are afraid of the USA?

PS: North Korea to compare life in the USSR wrong. The USSR helped Korea products etc. It is yous promotion leave for the western school students.

 

Thanks for the Post Woogs, I knew the soviets grabbed some islands at the close of WW2 but I did not know they were instrumental in the way Japan surrendered as it did. Considering that the Japanese were trying to force the Americans to accept a conditional surrender to avoid unacceptable casualties & that the soviets would in no way be deterred by that it makes perfect sense. The dropping of the two A bombs did do one positive thing though in giving the Japanese leadership a reason to surrender other than "we are complete failures" (a bit of saved face).

 

You're right. Police cripples and kills not only black or Latino. But the police - only a tool in the hands of the Nazis in Western governments.

 

In Russia, there is a good movie, but they are few and objectively - American cinema better. Especially old movies. For example, "good bad ugly" with Clint Eastwood.
(Lots of good movies released USSR.)

 

There is one big difference that will always mean Hitler was a much worse tyrant than Stalin & that is Hitler murdered large groups of civilians based on their ethnic/religious background to make way for the master race were as Stalin was pretty much an equal opportunity murderer of civilians.

 

Do not read the Western media. They are bad for the brain.
Myths about Stalin's terror issued a scoundrel Khrushchev. To keep and legitimize their power. Khrushchev was not only one of the founders of the terror 30s, but the most active and consistent performer his pure enthusiast and active executioner. Said his commitment Trotskyite dogmas. That's why he hurried away with Beria and show him the ridiculous accusations of espionage. In one of the memos Khrushchev to Stalin in the 30s (Khrushchev asked for permission to carry out reprisals), Stalin wrote - "Calm down a fool." It's a fact.
Let's go back to Stalin.
To accusations of Stalin, Khrushchev demanded to give him a memo about the number of prisoners during the Stalinist so-called "repression."

"February 1, 1954
Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Comrade Khrushchev, N.S.

In connection with the incoming signals to the Central Committee from the number of persons on ....... convicted of counter-revolutionary crimes and is now contained in the camps and prisons, reported: in the period from 1921 to the present time (1954) for counterrevolutionary crimes were convicted 3,777,380 people including capital punishment (shooting) - 642,980 people to content in the camps and prisons for a period of 25 years and under - 2,369,220 in exile and expulsion - 765,180 people.
... It should be noted that established by the Decree of the CEC and SNK on November 5, 1934 Special Council of the NKVD, which lasted until 1 September 1953, 442,531 people were convicted, including the death penalty (shot) - 10.101 people to prison - 360,921 people in exile and expulsion (within the country) - 57,539 people to other penalties (considering time in custody, deportation abroad, compulsory treatment) - 3,970 people ...

Attorney General R.Rudenko
Minister of Internal Affairs S. Kruglov
Justice Minister K.Gorshenin "



Also - "In terrible 37th" in the Gulag was 1,196,369 persons, of which 87% were thieves, killers, swindlers and so on.
Let's compare with a "bastion of democracy" - in United States, where is currently, in time of peace in the prisons are more than 2.3 million people.

Again. Do not read the Western media. Bad for the brain.

P/S:

Stalin was a Russian, Georgian (or Ossetian) origin.

 

Do not make laugh people. http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...1-russia-brink-collapse-6.html#post1065017750

 

It was necessary - on background to put the bear with a balalaika. Hollywood did not guessed.

 

The human nature of greed at work.

An oligarchy is politically dysfunctional but sadly that is now how it is in the US.

Whatever happened to the innate spirit of political distrust resulting from the British occupation? It seems to me that today the US political leadership is at least as bad - if not worse - then it was back in those bad old days. And yet so many Americans are sleep walking through it all.

 

LOL, history proves you wrong.

The political purges in the newly captured lands after WWII, executions, prison. Stalin was a nutcase.

 

A minor difference. A tyrant is a tyrant. Stalin murdered a lot of innocent people.

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Being unaware of history is called ignorance. Unwillingness to read history is called witting ignorance.

 

You saw what happened in Iraq after Saddam was eliminated.

No one knows what could have happened to Russia if Stalin had not taken action. After all. the previous ruling class had been completely wiped out.

Besides, if a country chooses to be proud of its history and chooses the least awful person to look up to, it's a good idea to make that image a positive one for the sake of national identity and child development. It's not like this is a current issue.

IMO the historical revisionism around some of our own leadership does not seem to be having all that great a positive effect either. It is stirring up issues like race needlessly. When things are gradually improving in a country, what is the point of stifrring up old hatreds?

Would you drink a cup of coffee or tea before the grounds settled?

Sometimes a pure distillation is the best thing to have.

 

Maybe American cinema has had more time and resources to support a film industry up to now.

Part of the attraction of US movies is their history, which has been since at least the 1940's, so you get interesting comparisons and contrasts of older and newer cultural attitudes, clothing styles, and even speech patterns, as well as the artistically distilled takes on certain themes and attitudes of various generations of writers.

Russia can gradually develop such a history now that censorship appears to have lessened, and perhaps retrieve some good films initially censored as well.

The US also has some good films that have not been allowed full play, such as Heaven's Gate with Kris Kristoperson. You will note that even now the historical validity of the movie is minimized in the Wikipedia article on it, and the quality of the movie is panned. By some mistake it was broadcast late at night some time ago and I happened to see it. It is shocking how people were treated in it and by extrapolation we can see where our oligarchs are coming from. I have looked for it all over and never found it on store shelves. IMO it is one of our greatest movies and I still hope to get a copy so I can see it again.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(film)

Another film that was pretty good was Rollover with Kris Kristopherson and Jane Fonda. Although Kristopherson was accused of poor acting in it, IMO he did fine, but the real problem was the film's potential to irritate the Arabs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_(film)

Russia should take a look at its stockpile of old films and see if any great ones can be saved from the past. There are probably many films of ballet that could be saved as well.

This is a problem with political effects on artists. Heaven's Gate destroyed the career of its director, even though he had also directed the Deerhunter, a well known movie about a Viet Nam veteran. I guess the powers that be didn't like the directions his art was taking him in.

 

You can rent Heaven's Gate on Amazon for 2.99 and buy Rollover on Amazon for 9.99. The director of Heaven's Gate went 4 times over budget and got panned by critics trying to outdo each other. It bombed in the box office and was a disaster for the studio.

 

I was thinking of checking on Amazon; that's a relatively new activity for me but things do seem to arrive. Thanks for the info. I have found it sometimes pays to have unpopular tastes....

Have you ever seen Heaven's Gate? I am still clinging to my view that a signal went out that it was not a career-enhancing film to support. It was an excellent film, and IMO well worth whatever they paid to make it.

 

If memory serves me, it was on TV once. I think I saw part of it but do not remember much about it. It has been re-evaluated lately as an under-appreciated film but I only watch the free stuff on Amazon Prime.

 

You begin to understand. It's good. Maybe soon you will learn to think for themselves. Without the influence of Western media.

 

Now in Russia there is no censorship at all. In film industry is ruled by anarchy. Many mediocre by producer and writers produce a worthless movie.
Pervert history, hoping like a Western audience. But in the end produce garbage. Of course, not all. But good films in contemporary Russian film industry is very small. Make a lot of special effects. Imitating Hollywood. But in the end do not reach the highest standards. Weak film script. And so on.
But I hope that one day expel out of the Russian film industry talentless idiots.

 

The difference between a tyrant and who is not a tyrant has to do with who is being killed. If the people being killed are outspoken and aggressive, then whoever is killing them is a tyrant because the victims will make sure they are being heard.

Over twenty million people were killed under Lenin and his partner Trotsky, but they were predominantly Christians, so they are rarely mentioned. Same with the mass persecutions of Khruschev...but again it was mostly towards Christians, so not much is said. He was the one in charge of Ukraine at the time of the Holodymir.

 

It was over already. The US was stalling for unconditional surrender and Japan was hoping to have a deal brokered by the USSR. Nukes weren't the reason Japan surrendered, in other words - it was going to happen either way.

 

The mass political purges not was after WWII like before...

Attacks to Stalin's identity began right after Stalin's death and coming to power of Khrushchev. Many articles as the Soviet so foreign authors were written (read lie). Discussion of the identity of Stalin proceeds still now. Nobody discusses about Hitler...

Let's look on the other side at the USSR at Stalin's board. If it was such awful maniac, Americans wouldn't go to the USSR to look for work. But we will read for example Tim Tsuliadis (the typical American author difficultly to suspect of sympathies for the Soviet Russia), the author of the book ''Thrown'' of An American Tragedy in Stalinґs Russia - writes "Why people went to the USSR? Because the chance to get a job which can't be lost was provided to them; their children could get free education; their families could use free of charge medical care - that is, the level of social safety promised them simply blew the mind. Moreover, many of them received free tickets to Russia. There were intellectuals, like Bernard Shaw who visited Russia and acted by the American radio, telling that the future - belong the Soviet Union.

Other American author of Walter Duranty worked in Moscow from 1922 to 1936, in the publications he constantly drew the pro-Soviet line".
Citizens of other countries went to the USSR also. The Soviet Union the thirtieth is one big building. Of course, people went to earnings, but they were shocked with socialist. Free medicine and education didn't go in citizens of the capitalist West. People were given housing, ALL were employed by profession, salaries grew, and the prices fell! Of course, all had an impression that the future for the USSR. In total to that also went. Also went, without being afraid of a "totalitarian" system, without being afraid of Stalinism and camps. Americans quietly played baseball, created even the league in the USSR and issued the newspapers. "Totalitarist" Stalin resolved all this. Stalin repressions which will think up later, not as don't keep within such beautiful picture. After all in order that people came, the place has to attract them!

 

You ignore the people that had to live through it and only profess that because some Americans were pro-communist, that it was all AOK. Face it, if you were not pro-communist, you were a problem. Stalin had purges and had people reporting on anyone, including innocent people, to keep themselves out of trouble.

 

I think we only get three to six excellent movies a year in the US, but the numbers add up over the years. It takes time.

We have a separate porno film industry, which helps to keep all of that separate from the more mainstream films, although some still creeps in. I don't really consider porno as part of the mainstream film industry. It is usually only sold in special shops that many respectable people never enter.

Russia interfaces with Asia and Europe; you would think there would be all sorts of Great Themes to inspire Russian filmography. Look at what was done in the West--Dr Zhivago. Anastasia with Yule Brynner was also good.

Out of Africa was a beautiful film. I would think a film like that could be made about a Russian traveler.

Do you think Muslim attitudes make directors fearful of approaching certain topics? Is there such emphasis on "We're all just Russians" that it discourages great themes?

What about destruction of the Russian aristocracy? As the traditional patrons of the arts, they had developed tastes and ideas that could have perhaps been useful. Are any of those people still around?

I guess quality depends in part on who is able to finance the films and what their tastes are. Like in the US, if only people of poor taste have most of the money, all we will see is garbage.

 

The American version of Doctor Zhivago absolutely does not reflect the Russian reality and Russian mentality.
Perhaps Western viewers liked the film. But Russian audience sees the director's false.
It is best to read the novel.

By the way, I loved in my childhood novels of Jack London, James Fenimore Cooper, Mayne Reid, and others. A The Adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Fin (Mark Twain) was one of my favorite books.
And of course Stephen King, Edgar Allan Poe, James Russell Lowell, author of the famous "Biglow Papers"...And many others.
I like US detectives. Especially classical (Earl Gardner, Rex Stout, etc.)
But unfortunately I do not know much contemporary American literature.

 

There are some truly exceptional foreign made and foreign language films that have been made. Hollywood produces some excellent films too, but they are too few as Merwen says. And lesser US films are far too predictable and often lack reality and complexity.

Ditto foreign made and foreign language TV series.