Russians showed the live boy Hassan in Hague that was poisoned during chemical attack in Syria.

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  1. Max Rockatansky

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    Disagreed. Also, there is only one specific group on these forums who consistently use the term "Zionist" over "Israeli".
     
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    You should also give credit to both Hillary and the DNC for being so corrupt they underestimated the mood of the nation.
     
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    What is a Zionist/Zionism.
     
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    Conspiracy theorist code for "****ing Jews".
     
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    What your problem ? do you not have google ?

    Zi·on·ism
    ˈzīəˌnizəm/
    noun
    1. a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel. It was established as a political organization in 1897 under Theodor Herzl, and was later led by Chaim Weizmann.
    You can read about some of the history of Zionism the "Encyclopedia Brittannica" for goodness sake.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zionism

    Many Jews "Proudly" call themselves Zionists.
     
  6. Max Rockatansky

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    No problem. Yes, I do.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen many antisemitics try to justify their beliefs with all kinds of BS.
     
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    How are Jews who call themselves Zionists .. anti Semitic ?

    How is:
    a movement for (originally) the re-establishment and (now) the development and protection of a Jewish nation in what is now Israel.

    Anti Semitic ?

    Your making no sense.
     
  8. Max Rockatansky

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    They aren't. You are either deliberately misconstruing my post or lack the ability to understand it.
     
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    I'm not the one that stated the term "Zionist" was anti Semitic.

    Don't blame me for you not understanding what the term Zionist means.
     
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    Again, "You are either deliberately misconstruing my post or lack the ability to understand it."

    Please quote me where I "stated the term "Zionist" was anti Semitic"
     
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    I asked "what is a Zionist/Zionism"

    You said Conspiracy theorist code for "****ing Jews".

    This is nonsense. Not all Jews are Zionists.

    The term Zionist refers to Jews who who hold Zionist beliefs = the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Canaan, the Holy Land, or the region of Palestine).

    That it is some "Conspiracy Theory" that Zionists want support the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland which includes the region of Palestine .. is patent nonsense.

    Your claim that people who use the term Zionists to mean the above .. are "anti Semites" is patent nonsense as well.
     
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    Take what out of context ? You claimed that those that used the term Zionist were antisemitic.

    When if you knew what the term Zionist/Zionism meant you said:

    While some may use the term Zionist in a derogatory fashion your labeling of all folks that use this term as "antisemite" is abject nonsense.

    I see that I am now also in that category for pointing out your logical fallacy.

    Oh Happy day :)

    Demonizing and is not an argument for much. When used as a mechanism to avoid correction it is the mark of a fool.
     
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    Russian and Syria’s presidents are strong independent leaders. Russia and Syria fight the lies of Western countries.
     
  14. Max Rockatansky

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    Sorry, but it's my personal policy not to converse with anyone who reports me. Have a nice ****ing life, sir.
     
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    Fantastic ... I only report in cases of extreme mindless idiocy so the less of that in my life the better.
     
  16. Max Rockatansky

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    LOL.

    Has the Russian economy sunk so far they can't even teach their trolls to speak English? See "Kremlin-backed troll accounts" below.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/only-a...made-public-by-social-media-giants-1525448056
    Major U.S. tech companies have yet to provide to the public all the details of Russian troll activity on their platforms despite their pledge to tackle the problem and pressure from some lawmakers, The Wall Street Journal has found.

    Six months after social-media firms agreed in congressional hearings to work with lawmakers investigating Russian efforts to interfere in U.S. politics, many specifics about the foreign interference operation remain undisclosed
    .....


    https://slate.com/technology/2018/0...ussian-bots-confusing-u-s-voters-in-2016.html
    Silicon Valley’s social media giants aren’t done reckoning with their Russia problem. With less than 10 months to go before the midterm election, however, they’re still trying to earn back the public’s confidence that the commons they operate aren’t also undermining our democracy—and they’re still answering questions about what they’ll do the next time a foreign disinformation campaign runs rampant on their social networks.

    On Twitter, an army of bots and fake accounts piloted by the Internet Research Agency, a Kremlin-affiliated troll farm, muddied the waters of public debate in the months before and after the 2016 election. On Friday night, Twitter offered some more information about their activities—although it missed its Jan. 8 deadline to answer Congress’ questions about the extent of Russian efforts to manipulate voters on its platform (Facebook and Google did not).
    Now, the company has provided more information about how bad the infiltration was, as well as how Twitter plans to address the fact legions of its users intersected with the malicious tweets.

    For starters, Twitter said in a blog post that it will email the 677,775 people in the U.S. “who followed one of these accounts or retweeted or liked a Tweet from these accounts during the election period,” which Twitter limited to the short one-and-a-half-month span between Sept. 1 to Nov. 15, 2016. That won’t reach everyone the tweets could have impacted. You might not have followed one of the IRA accounts, but a friend of yours may have retweeted one—or a deluge of them—into your timeline.

    Twitter also disclosed on Friday that the extent of Russian-linked election content on its platform was much higher than it reported when it testified to Congress in three separate hearings last October and November. At the time, Twitter said it located 2,752 accounts that were run by operatives at the Internet Research Agency, which was behind much (but perhaps not all) of the country’s election meddling on social media. But now, Twitter says it’s found 1,062 more of them, bumping the number of Kremlin-backed troll accounts on Twitter to 3,814 around the 2016 election. People who interacted with one of the Internet Research Agency accounts are the ones who will be notified.

    The company also said there was way more Russia-linked bot activity during the election, too. Previously, Twitter reported that some 36,000 bots were sending out automated tweets in the short period of time it analyzed surrounding the election, but it now says that number was a low-ball. Twitter found an additional 13,500 bots, kicking that number to 50,258. That’s a lot of bots. Twitter’s notification efforts don’t include those who may have interacted with these accounts—a number that’s likely far higher than 677,775.

    To put Twitter’s bot problem during the election in perspective, in October 2016, a team from Oxford University’s Project on Computational Propaganda found that pro-Trump bots tweeted with debate-related hashtags seven times more than pro-Clinton bots during the third presidential debate. But at that time, Russia was not implicated.

    Even though it wasn’t the first company out the door to provide more details about Russian interference in the U.S. election on its platform, Twitter is being relatively more proactive about reaching out to potentially duped users by the Internet Research Agency than Facebook is. Instead of directly emailing or notifying people who interacted with content from the troll farm, Facebook set up a tool for users to manually check to see if they liked or followed accounts created by the Internet Research Agency.

    Twitter says that it already sent the emails notifying users if they interacted with accounts from the Russian troll farm. Now, after this Friday news dump, it’ll be up to the company to make sure that the 2018 midterms aren’t a replay of the mess it’s still cleaning up. For its part, the company does say it’s working to do better by tightening its rules for creating automated accounts on the platform and taking a harder line on weeding out suspicious accounts. But still, there’s no sign that the Kremlin plans to slow down its election-meddling efforts this year. And while it’s certainly on Americans to be more critical of the information we get on social media, if Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube can’t do a better job of keeping their sites free of foreign-agent manipulation around election time, users will eventually be best off simply not trusting them altogether.
     
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    It's more Russian spin. He quoted the link then expects most Americans to be too stupid to actually read it. Obviously you and I know the link does not back up his claim.

    The bottom line here is that the international team sent to Douma will either find evidence of a chemical attack or not. Given the lies and propaganda being spewed out of Russia's ass, I suspect evidence will be found because the Russians obviously know Assad is guilty of doing what he's done before.
     
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    Aha...
     
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    What's the point in an investigation if the US already responded as if it was beyond doubt that it was Assad?
     
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    The difference is proving to the world that Assad is guilty. The US can have an opinion, the ****ing Russians can try to pass opinion as "fact", but evidence trumps all.
     
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    Wow... No proof... Statements only. The pure American style.
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    LOL Like you want me to bribe a bunch of Syrians with a promise of life outside of Assad's dictatorship as long as they lied on television?

    No worries my Russian friend. I'm content to wait for the UN inspection team to examine the site, not just go by whatever propaganda the RT is shoveling.

    Unfortunately, it appears Assad (and their Russian puppet masters) don't want the site to be examined.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/syria-gas-attack-inspectors-opcw-douma-un-bashar-assad-russia/
    DAMASCUS, Syria -- A team of international chemical weapons inspectors' visit to the scene of an alleged poison gas attack in Syria has been delayed after a United Nations advance security team came under fire. It remained unclear Wednesday -- 11 days after the alleged attack -- when the team of inspectors from the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) might reach the Damascus suburb of Douma, where the U.S. and allied nations say Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's Russian backed forces killed at least 40 people with banned weapons on April 7.

    The security team "came under small arms fire and an explosive was detonated" at one of the two sites the team visited on Tuesday, OPCW Director-General Ahmet Uzumcu told the group's governing body on Wednesday. The U.N. team was not injured and returned to Damascus. The team is working with the OPCW inspectors, who arrived in Damascus over the weekend, to determine when it will be safe to carry out the first inspection visit.

    Syrian media said the chemical weapons inspectors had entered Douma on Tuesday, but a Syrian diplomat said later that only the U.N. security team had visited.
     
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    Wow! The American idiot really doesn't understand, that he must provide ANY proof of Assad chemical attack. Very nice :) Intellectual degradation of the USA is awful.
     
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    Sure, but what would Assad have achieved from this attack?
     

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