Russia's Espionage -Hacking-Campaign

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  1. trevorw2539

    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really are naive. The oldest trick in the book. Political sleight of hand. Allow your enemy to concentrate on your left hand while your right is working behind the scenes. In this case China is the left hand, and Russia is the right. I guess Russia is the illusionist.
     
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    It's what Biden will do, not Trump. Trump only has a few weeks in office.

    So we'll see if Biden follows your advice or comes up with a big red restart button (I'm betting on the button).
     
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    No, I don't think our people are that smart.
     
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    I don't know what Pompeo and the MSM's are complaining about? In September, Putin warned of an escalating online battleground between nations around the world, and proposed new bilateral talks on information security, and a pact in which countries would avoid using cyberwarfare to influence election processes. The US hasn't responded to this request.

    According to Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Oleg Syromolotov, the study they made on the attacks on Russia’s digital systems in their Constitutional Vote this year, most of the large scale attacks were from the US. There were also attacks from Germany, the UK, Singapore, Taiwan, Ukraine and some Eastern European countries.

    Do you think Russia should have started a war with us over the hacks? According to MacDonald, Obama even bragged about it.


     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All fair game in spyland - we do it - they do it - as does every other nation of significance.

    I would not characterize these incidents as "Bolder" - but rather incidents of carelessness - as in They got caught.

    Note - The above assumes that claims from our Establishment State Sponsored Propaganda machine are true - which is all too often not the case :)
     
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    In the video clip you quoted I didn't see any argument of Rachel Maddow, I saw counting how many times she said 'Russia'.
    I don't watch Rachel Maddow, she is Democrats version of Sean Hannity, pure propaganda.
    But I noticed President Trump consistently defends Putin, who we can call 'Russian novichok tzar' (as for sure you know he a KGB officer).
    I was shocked when American President publicly said don't trusts CIA/FBI but he trusts KGB officer.
     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think Trump should ignore the evidence about Russia,, refuse to publish it, and blame China. You are just sidetracking.
     
  9. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What Trump should have said; is that Putin proposed new bilateral talks in September after our massive digital attacks on them when they were voting for their new Constitution, and we did not respond to his request.

    Since Trump did not say it, then it was the job of the media to tell the American people. In the past when we had real journalists, this is what the media would have done. Today the liberal media's only concern is to demonize Russia, since Russia dared to maintain their Christian convictions and refused to bow to our liberal impositions.
     
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    Trump was offered evidence by Pompeo that Russia was responsible. He put a stop in it, and declared it was probably China. Doubt the media were in the White House office when Trump heard this or they would have reported it.

    What Trump should have done is govern the USA properly and got a hold on many things, instead of blaming people when things went wrong.
     
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    As a child of the 1950's things were simpler then. We knew Russia was the enemy and certainly not a Christian nation. Of course that was back in the day when Christianity was a religion not a wing of the Republican party. Even the most blatant acts of treason by Trump are sanctioned by Christian Republicans. Which means if helps Trump it's Christian, even if it betrays the United States.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I like the spin that the treason is being committed by Trump and not those who have been switching and destroying votes and threatening witness', judges, law firms etc. . But then again, when a party can't reveal to the American people its true agenda, then what else do the Democrats have?

    Looks kind-a fishy doesn't it?
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    Oh then you mean that the Intelligence agents report to Trump's appointee Pompeo first and then to the President? Interesting!

    Seems like a lot of projection there?


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    They project! you project!
    It's what some do!
    And cannot know what's false or true,
    for they just see themselves in you.

    Yet they should know that what they say,
    reflects on them in a bad way.
    For others not a fool will be

    to fall for their projectory - Jeannette




     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Other than a nuclear war, Russia cannot be hurt- though we do keep trying with sanctions and covert actions. Putin, instead of investing and doing what would be the most profitable in the short term, preferred securing his country for any eventuality. Russia has no debt, and started becoming self sufficient in everything when we imposed sanctions and Putin retaliated by embargoing all EU products. By doing so, he eliminated foreign competition.

    Like China, Russia also accumulated large holdings of gold, but unlike China they are not dependent on foreign trade for their survival. In case of a world wide depression, Russia will survive, but will we?
     
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    yeah right russia can't be hurt. of course the peasants don't know the difference, but wait until they have to line up for toilet paper again.

    Russia economy is ENTIRELY dependent on its oil and gas production and export. What % of gov't revenues come from oil and gas again?
     
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    Let's be realistic. Russia contains 30% of the world's resources, which means it exports oil, gas, coal, timber, wheat, military arms, etc., etc. It is self sufficient in just about everything - and that includes meat, dairy products, fruits and vegetables - thanks to the green houses.

    Russia's military is second to the US in some respects, and superior in others and at 1/3 the cost. In other words, Russia is a self sufficient entity, and a world in itself.




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    Unlike some others in our sphere,
    to me Russia is: 'Mother Dear'.

    So if you try to break her heart
    and vilely try to grab a part,

    through devious means with lies and guile
    which as we know is your style,

    then also know you'll suffer ill
    and find it a very bitter pill.

    As others have who came before
    and didn't know what was in store

    for them - Jeannette


     
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    trevorw2539 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Projection? Ask millions of citizens who are suffering from the ineptitude of your part time President. What do you read? Quite an apt of you to use a comedian, though he is not as good as Trump.
     
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    Name anything Putin got from Trump other than more sanctions against Russia? He got Crimea from Obama. .
     
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    WaPo is just Jeff Bezos propaganda outlet and will do anything to take all focus off his Chinese child slave labor factories and Chinese fellow billionaire business partners.
     
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    The report is in several papers - English and American.
     
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    "He got Crimea from Obama." Wow ! What a blindingly stupid statement. That's something that Dirty Donnie the Dummy would say.

    Putin got a friend in Dirty Donnie who said nice things about him in public and gave him cover for all the election interference in which Russia engaged. In fact, because of it, Putin got encouragement to commit even more cyber warfare.
     
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    Joe Biden said Democrats will not longer accept facts and you're a follower of China Joe. Obama gave Crimea to Russia. Let Russia take Eastern Ukraine too. It took Trump giving Ukraine weapons while slamming Russia with sanctions to stop Russia fully overrunning Ukraine.

    China tries to hack, and often successfully, every aspect of the United States including all intelligence agencies, our satellites and our military. China has spies on the staff of Democrats in Congress and even in their beds - those Democrats on intelligence and military committees.
     
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    Ridiculous post. Russia took Crimea against protests from the West. and NATO gave weapons to the Ukraine - not Trump. This started before Trump was ever POTUS.
     
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    Against protests! "Peace in our time" by concessions - but protesting for show, right? That's nothing but proving weakness.
     
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    Being a Trump supporter, your grip on reality is not very firm. Making up false statements in an effort to discredit your LOSER Trump's opposition doesn't change reality.
    Good luck trying to change facts.

    BTW, you failed to mention that Dirty Donnie's only interaction with the Ukraine was when he asked them for a political favor to aid in his re-election.
    How did that work out for Dirty Donnie the LOSER ?
     

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