Sandra Bland's family 'infuriated' at video of her arrest

The Supreme Court said you're incorrect in Pennsylvania vs Mimms.

 

That decision states that the policeman must have reasonable cause to demand that a person get out of her car. As the dash cam video clearly shows, there was no reasonable cause. She was being cited for a minor traffic violation and the officer acted in an irrational manner.

 

WTF is reasonable cause? It's either probable cause or reasonable suspicion. Don't mix the two.

Police need reasonable suspicion to pull her over (Terry vs. Ohio). He had it. Once he has it, he can order her out of the car (Mimms).

 

The SCOTUS case that you cited does not say that a policeman can order her out of the car for no good reason just because he had pulled her over for a minor traffic violation. Nor did it say that she was not allowed to smoke in her own vehicle.

 

Facts are here:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/2...and-traffic-stop-escalated/?intcmp=latestnews

"A woman whose death in a Texas jail has raised suspicions about the official conclusion that she hanged herself told a guard during the booking process that she had tried to kill herself in the past, the sheriff said Wednesday.Waller County Sheriff Glenn Smith said Sandra Bland told a jailer about the previous suicide attempt sometime after her arrest on July 10."

Hello.

 

Yes it does. Mimms was pulled over for an expired plate. A traffic violation is not "no good reason", it is a good reason, according to SCOTUS.

As far as smoking, Texas law requires her to follow the directions of a police officer.

 

Average cop would not have ran into the ignorance of the now tits up former civil rights agitator! Agitate no more!!!!!

 

Let's face reality. This woman was arrested for failing to kiss a cop's ass. Everyone knows it, especially the people who keep repeating that she should have just kissed his ass just like they always do.

Instead of insisting that we need to pucker up at the mere sight of a badge, why don't we insist that Americans not be thrown into cages for failing to grovel properly? Just a thought...

 

The woman was arrested for breaking the law. If we don't want American's to "pucker up" when confronted with the law, abolish the municipal police, county sheriffs, state police, and FBI, DEA, ATF, and whatever 3 letter police forces I forgot. Is that an acceptable solution?

 

By kissing ass, you mean obeying the law right? Your anti cop attitude is what gets people in these situations in the first place. The lesser intelligent people swallow the crap you guys publicly sell and its getting them killed. If the rest of you started telling these people to obey the officers instead of fighting with them, then perhaps they wouldn't be getting into unnecessary violent altercations with the police. The woman in this video was completely in the wrong and is a victim of her own depression and anti police thug culture.

 

bu bu but if we get rid of police, whos arms are leftist anti police protesters going to jump into when scary motorcycle guys say mean things to them that hurt their feelings?!

 

I essentially agree with the OP: I believe that the officer had justification to pull her over, since she did change lanes without using her turn signal. However, he did not have the right to force her out of her car without giving just cause, nor did he have the right to threaten her. The police officer was the one who escalated the situation from a simple traffic stop to an encounter that required him to use physical force to literally throw this woman to the ground. With that being said, I agree with you that it is not rational to think that the police murdered this woman while in custody and made it look like a suicide. She even had a history of depression with prior suicide attempt. The police officer that pulled her over should be reprimanded for what he did during the traffic stop, but he should not be held criminally or civilly liable for her death.

 

Knowing this woman was a "Black Lives Matter" activist the cop did great. These folks are automatically going to give a cop a hard time. It would have been OK if he had popped her in the noggin with a night stick. Perhaps that would have shaken some sense into her. These activists obviously have mental issues like she did.

 

This woman's death may not have been the officers fault, but I do not want my tax dollars paying the salaries of officers who treat citizens like this. Just another a$$hole cop on a power trip.

 

The woman's death was not his fault. When it comes to dealing with criminals the cops can be as big of an arse as they want....they are dealing with criminals. As far as this woman is concerned she was being just as big of an arse.

 

Failure to signal is your litmus for what you consider a criminal? That's rich. . .and scary.

 

Where did I claim that? I didn't but nice try.

 

" The woman's death was not his fault.When it comes to dealing with criminals the cops can be as big of an arse as they want....they are dealing with criminals. As far as this woman is concerned she was being just as big of an arse.
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You just admitted in the other thread giving an attitude wasn't arrestable or criminal. So what made this woman a criminal?

 

Where did I claim "arrestable"?. I didn't. You had to cherry pick and merge two sentences to try and make it look like that was my claim. Epic fail!

 

What made this woman a criminal.

 

Who said she was a criminal? Did she go to trial?

 

She wasn't currently on duty as an officer of the law who's salary is paid with our tax dollars either. There's nothing wrong with holding police officers to a higher standard than this woman.

 

Nah, and I do not believe anyone else that deals with the public as a job should have to put up with rude behavior. If you are rude to a waiter chances are you will get something in your food you do not want. It is just common sense. When folks have a sense of entitlement they act like this woman. She was an arse and got hauled in....serves her right.

 

the average cop runs into people being mildly upset all the time, they just are not jerks.... it really surprises me your taking the bad cops side here

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he did not give her a chance to put it out, he asked if she would, she asked a question about it and he went all Rambo on her, I do not know one cop that would of been that big a jerk in this situation