Saudi Arabia invests $2 BILLION in Jared Kushners brand new investment firm??

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Evidence that Prince Jared used his position as an emissary of the US government to make personal business deals? Yes. Evidence that Hunter played on his father's name to make business deals? Yes.
    Evidence that Joe was involved in or profited from Hunter's deals? NO.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    TRUMP’S NOT GONNA LET A LITTLE MURDER GET IN THE WAY OF HIS $110 BILLION ARMS DEAL
    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/201...in-the-way-of-his-dollar110-billion-arms-deal

    A new report in The Washington Post, citing U.S. intelligence intercepts, appears to confirm what is looking increasingly likely: that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman personally ordered the operation to lure journalist Jamal Khashoggi from his home in Virginia to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul last week, and had him murdered. Turkish security officials told The New York Times that they believe he was “dismembered . . . with a bone saw” by a 15-person team, dispatched from Saudi Arabia to make the vociferous critic of Salman’s government disappear. It is, in other words, not a good look for the so-called “reformer” prince, whose country has denied killing Khashoggi, but is not trying particularly hard to be convincing. Nor is it a good look for Donald Trump and Jared Kushner, who don’t seem eager to terminate a chummy relationship with the crown prince over a credible murder allegation. At least not just yet.

    For those who need a quick refresher on the Kushner-M.B.S. bromance, the two first bonded over lunch at the White House back in March 2017, with the Boy Prince of New Jersey subsequently persuading his father-in-law to visit Riyadh for his first trip abroad as president. From there, it was basically a buddy comedy for the ages, with Kushner championing M.B.S. when the young prince was battling with his cousin to become his father’s heir; supporting his move to blockade Qatar and tacitly supporting his brutal war in Yemen; having back-slapping dinners with the prince in D.C. and the Saudi capital; and reportedly giving M.B.S. the names of disloyal Saudi royals who were later rounded up and imprisoned (Kushner denies this). Perhaps most significant, the two struck a deal for a $110 billion weapons sale—not a bad inducement if you’re trying to get the future king’s blessing for your Israeli-Palestinian peace plan. Salman’s financial ties to Trump run deep, too. In March, the prince’s entourage almost single-handedly boosted revenue at Trump’s New York hotel by 13 percent. Presumably, Kushner and M.B.S. had discussed plans to get a boys trip on the calendar in between work and family commitments.
     
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    What's wrong with being concerned about both? Investigate it all, if for no other reason than to send a message for future presidents that these types of quid pro quo should not be ok, and relationships between family and businesses/other countries should be above board and legal.
    The problem comes in when people want to only investigate "the other side".
     
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    That is not true. The "Big Guy" receiving 10% was in the Hunter diary and testimony from one witness verified that the Big Guy was VP, at the time, Biden.
     
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    This sounds like negotiating for a political end....peace in Middle east......sounds totally legit.
     
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    Hunter paid for VP Joe's renovations and took care of many of VP Joe expenses....while he was making money from contacts initiated by VP Joe. Sounds like something to investigate further.
     
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    According to the NYT article the prince was rewarded with a 28% stake in the company. That is pretty good if you ask me. It’s an investment made after trump left office. Why is this a big deal?
     
  8. Lee Atwater

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    You asked what Prince Jared's $2B payoff was in return for. If you see going forward with an arms deal despite MBS having a US based journalist dismembered, while Jared was negotiating sweetheart deals for his businesses, as negotiating for ME peace you have a very vivid imagination.
     
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    The double standard as always, applies one way.

    This is described as an investment, not a salary or payment. Hunter was hired as a company director for something he new nothing about- and that as a pattern happens over and over. Hunter sold a political connection, that doesn't bother the left. Kushner lacks many Hunter "qualities". That makes him a far more rational person to deal with. Trump does not hold office, but he would have a lot of connections in the financial world- and Kushner would have access to a lot of financial talent and investment options.

    The "suspicious" level of this story is about 0.5% of what the story would be if you replaced Kushner with Hunter, but the left thinks this smells- and Hunter, shenanigans are nothing to be concerned about.
    This is why the right side of politics knows the left side has no moral compass.
     
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    Think about it this way. Imagine Hunter Biden got $2B for a private equity firm.........a business he has no experience in..... from MSB....after ......The real estate company Cadre, owned by Kushner, his brother, Joshua, and a friend, has taken in $90 million in investments from Saudi Arabia and a "Goldman Sachs entity" in the Cayman Islands. Cadre is also one of the properties that Kushner initially forgot to put on his security-clearance application when he joined the Trump administration. Kushner co-founded Cadre in 2014, and despite slow growth in its first couple years, its value has quintupled since 2017, when Kushner joined the White House. The company allows investors to pool money together to buy real estate, and it now manages about $522 million to buy properties across the U.S.
    https://www.gq.com/story/kushner-company-flooded-with-money


    ..........then try not to have your head explode.
     
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    No, it was in an email sent on May 16th, 2017, over a year after he was VP. Two pertinent facts from your statement are wrong.
    You also forgot to include that the deal never happened, and none of the Biden's benefited financially from that particular deal.
    Biden also said when campaigning that he knew nothing about any of Hunter's business dealings, but that looks to be untrue, but not yet proven.
    He probably did lie about it, but there is no concrete proof of it.
     
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    It was never thoroughly investigated. Biden lied about knowing anything about Hunter's business deals. Hunter said his Dad did know in a New Yorker Magazine article.
     
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    Na. I can understand why Hunter is a story.

    I cant understand why you guys dont think any of Trump's family crimes of any kind are a story.
     
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    That's his "out". It's kind of a way of justifying it, as in a cheating husband will accuse his wife of cheating to justify his actions.
     
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    There your hero Joe Biden was on TV bragging about withholding United States taxpayer funded aid to the Ukraine unless they fired the prosecutor who was investing the company his son was compromised in.

    But I know you will have a talking point that makes that okay. You will have a talking point that excuses the obvious corruption in that right in front of your face on national television.
     
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    Maybe the Democrat should have made that an actual article of impeachment when he was actually the president?
     
  17. Lee Atwater

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    That falsehood has been completely debunked dozens of times. Why do you insist on showing yourself to be a dupe of RWM lies by repeating it?

    But Trump has repeatedly distorted the facts about Biden’s work in Ukraine to baselessly accuse his Democratic rival of seeking Shokin’s removal to help his son, Hunter, who at the time was a board member of a Ukraine gas company called Burisma. He left the board in 2019.

    In Des Moines, Iowa, on Oct. 14, Trump cited “explosive documents” published earlier that day by the New York Post to revive his widely discredited claim that Biden “went to Ukraine and threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid if they did not fire the prosecutor that was investigating his son and the company that his son worked for.”

    As we’ve written, there’s no evidence Hunter Biden was being investigated.

    The president made this line of attack against Biden a central campaign theme last year — until a whistleblower last fall alleged Trump had pressured newly elected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a July 25, 2019, phone call to investigate Burisma, Biden and his son, Hunter. The administration released a memo of the phone call that confirmed the whistleblower’s account, and a subsequent House investigation confirmed that the Trump administration withheld U.S. military assistance to Ukraine to pressure Zelensky to publicly announce that he would launch the investigations sought by Trump.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/10/trump-revives-false-narrative-on-biden-and-ukraine/
     
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    Most assuredly what was promised was competent investment advice and management, and 1% fee is right in the norm. Opposed to Hunter where nobody has any idea (and he and Joe aren't saying) what Hunter did for his $3.5 million.
     
  19. Lee Atwater

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    Promised based on what? He has no track record managing a private equity firm.

    But the Saudis agreed to pay Mr. Mnuchin’s firm only a 1 percent asset management fee, compared to 1.25 percent for Mr. Kushner’s, the documents indicate. On a $2 billion investment, that would pay his firm $25 million a year, not including a share of any profits earned by the Affinity fund.


    Mnuchin actually has a background as a private investor. So why pay Kushner more?
     
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    Negotiating for ME Peace was in the article you posted. It was an accusation in the opinion piece you posted. The writer ACCUSED Jared of using the arms deal for middle east piece. Which I think...was a smart move for middle east peace. Nothing to do with the investment.
     
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    I have no idea. Maybe they respected the Kushner/Trump acumen and business and financial prowess more. I dunno. You'll have to ask Saudi Arabia.
     
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    With a ROOKIE investment broker with ZERO prior experience???
     
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    As I said, I didn't choose them so don't ask me. Go ask Saudi Arabia. Then go ask the Moscow widow why she gave $3.5 million to Hunter.
     
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    Since you are not worried about Hunter Biden, I am curious why you would be concerned here?
     
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    That was the best joke you've ever made.
     

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