Saudi Crown Prince Says Iran's Leader Is 'the New Hitler' of the Middle East.....

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  1. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    I have no doubt that what you say is true.. I have several Iranian friends here in Atlanta who return home once a year.

    What it the point of Iran always being antagonistic towards the US, Israel and the GCC? What do you want?
     
  2. jimmy rivers

    jimmy rivers Well-Known Member

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    Can you explain to the forum why you are a water carrier for the iranian regime, lie for them and their monstrous crimes, and returned to the forum despite proclaiming you were leaving?

    When is iran getting out of lebanon, syria, gaza, yemen, iraq, and bahrain? Why do some iranians think they can whine about the '53 CIA-aided coup, then turn around and do FAR worse in five other countries? When will the fake, diseased, cancerous iranian regime be held to account for their genocide in syria, mass slaughter in iraq, and murder of thousands of iranians after the faked 2009 elections?
     
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    Oh, that's so nice, teheran has nice roads, how wonderful. Too bad they helped murder a million people in syria, and destroyed most of that country. But those nice flower gardens are such comfort to the millions they've killed, maimed, tortured, displaced, ethnically cleansed, homes they've destroyed, starved to death, etc.
     
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    Do you? Got your talking points straight from khameini for this week yet?
     
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    Now that’s the funniest thing I read all day. While Saudi Arabia and the US have fingerprints all over the region. Do people ever think about how hypocritical they look.
     
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    Strange how the same posters who accuse Iran of anything and everything, are the same posters who dribble hatred towards them non stop.
     
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    If that be true, that’s very good!!!
     
  8. Iranian Monitor

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    It is definitely how I see it. The truth as seen through my eyes and lenses.

    To be sure, I don't necessarily credit the "regime" for most of the advances. Part of it is a function of time with many other countries growing leaps and bounds the past couple of decades. Part of it a function of the resources at the disposal of Iran's governments that, even if corruptly and inefficiently managed, are still considerable. Part of it comes from the fact that whatever the faults and warts of the regime, power in Iran is more diffused and exercised across a larger spectrum of society, and policies involve a lot more than just an elite, compared to the days of the Shah. In those days, Iran was largely a "one man show". The Shah would wake up and dream of something and that would be Iran's newest policy! To be sure, the Shah wasn't nearly as tyrannical, dictatorial, or even as nearly a "foreign stooge" as his critics claimed, but he was trying very hard to play the role of a Persian emperor, as "king of kings, light of Aryans", while at the same time keeping pace and not feeling inadequate for being the ruler of a backward country when he mingled with western elites and the like. So the Shah tried very hard to make Iran "look very modern" and "look very powerful", while today Iran has actually become a lot more of the things the Shah wanted even while often being dressed awkwardly compared to how it was dressed before!
     
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    In that case then, would you be supportive of an indigenous revolution that had no outside interference, that toppled the present government if it was replaced with a more free government that pursued even greater reforms than what you’ve already mentioned??
     
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    When it comes to "revolution", the attitude of many Iranians can be summed up as: Been there, done that, no thanks! :)
     
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    The same questions you posed to margot can be asked of you, why would anyone sane be a water carrier for the monstrous iranian regime that is shooting peaceful protestors in the streets right now.
     
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    So that means you and they support the regime, suuuuuure thing sonny, got any more BS you want to sell?
     
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    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/...ment-rallies-days-unrest-180103164005749.html
    Iran: Mass pro-government rallies after days of unrest

     
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    What does your question even mean? It is somewhat like asking what is your opinion of the US marine corp? What exactly are you asking?
     
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    People in the west think they are religiously crazy and dangerous. I have heard that over and over again. What is your opinion?
     
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    Do you seriously expect to get a legitimate answer from that "poster" on anything?
     
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    I think there is a huge disconnect between the Iranian people and their government..
     
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    And between most iranians and the regime propagandists serving their masters.

    I've spent 95% of my internet time the past week on a soc media site - was told by a moderator that I'm not allowed to name it but it has a blue bird as a logo - discussing with legitimate iranians inside iran and their opinions are completely, diametrically opposed to what that "poster" claims.
     
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    I see them as a large organization, comprised of different faces and different type of people. They are an organization that enjoys high favorable ratings among Iranians, who credit them for their sacrifices in many front lines and battles which keep the country safe. General Suleimani, for instance, is considered a figure with high popularity and strong favorable ratings in Iran.

    On the other hand, those elements in the revolutionary guards involved in the economy will receive different and differing receptions: some credit them for helping Iran's self-sufficiency drive and others blame them for taking up a large portion of the pie. Another element, which is affiliated to them, the so-called Basij, which is more focused on internal security and the like, will receive a more divergent and not necessarily as favorable a reaction. Although even the Basij is not exactly as some imagine: there are many very decent kids from lower middle class families who join the Basij to feel they belong to a larger group and who want to do good things.
     
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    Send it to me privately......
     
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    At this point, your "posts" are little more than propaganda at best, comedic entertainment at worst. You've achieved that position where you are literally being laughed at.

    https://www.memri.org/tv/iran-anti-government-protests/transcript

    "Protests throughout Iran: Death to Khamenei! Death to IRGC! Not Gaza, Not Lebanon, We Will Give Our Lives to Iran"

    So unlike the US marines you mention above, the IRGC has control over a large part of iran's economy? Wow, that's truly special, I'm not aware of too many countries where the military forms its own economy...

    But but but why would a country who is mostly in love with the regime as you claim would need an internal security force/brownshirts like the basij?
     
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    How prevalent is this belief among the Iranian people?

    Iranian Ex-President Says U.S. Seeks Arrest Of Hidden Imam - RFE/RL

    https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-ahmadinejad-hidden-imam-us/27086798.html
    Jun 22, 2015 - Iran's former hard-line President Mahmud Ahmadinejad has reportedly said that the United States is working to arrest the Hidden Imam, who according to Shi'ite belief went into hiding in the 10th century and will reappear to bring justice to Earth. Ahmadinejad made the comments in a speech to a group of ...
     
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    Well, I wouldn’t presume that you could speak for 80 million Iranians. I was hoping to know what you thought personally
     
  25. Iranian Monitor

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    The attitude of the Iranian people is no secret as tens of millions do what I have never done: show up in pro revolution rallies on 22 Bahman to celebrate and commemorate the revolution.

    In the meantime, while people here are exposed to western coverage of the protests, to balance that coverage, here is piece on the protests from Iran's government sponsored Press TV which starts with a video of the much much larger pro government rallies denouncing the protests just yesterday.

     

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