School cancels football game days after cheerleaders are punished for pro-Trump banner

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Political propaganda not facts.
     
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    Trump's Playbook, in a nutshell.
     
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    Hey I am on record these cheerleaders should not have done what they did. I am also on record that the school should support, encourage or accomodate a political protest or position as in letting students have a free day to attend one. How about you?
     
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    You said it was political and I agreed that there is a political component and there is no way of not saying that. The march was to protest what Trump and Congress is doing to the environment that these young people are going to grow up in. You are making it sound like they don’t care about the environment. How can you separate the two ? When I march for women’s rights it was political in that we needed laws changed.
     
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    I've always said global warming is political and the goal of scaring people with it is to say vote democrat because they are scared too and will save the world, vote democrat. It looks like we agree on this.
    Main point right now though is when you claimed it was ok to chastise the cheerleaders because they were being political and somehow that was different than school sanctioned warming protest which you now admit are also political.
     
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    I found the post that you were talking about in there And I clearly said that it was political but .I see where the misunderstanding was. It has to have political component because it is politicians who make the laws but you seem to think that they don’t care about the environment. Who do you think they are marching for? . Do you think Martin Luther King marching for civil rights and changing the laws wasn’t political as well?
    You think that global warming is fake and a hoax but the scientists from all over the globe disagree and I’m very concerned about it. Yes we are scared and so should you be. People who have children care and if they don’t they should. Would you encourage children to smoke? The same rhetoric was used when scientists were beginning to show The dangers of smoking..”it’s just to scare us”
     
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    Entirely false. Smoking causing cancer was never a political issue.
     
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    You think your BS (see above) is answering my questions? Really?
    They're worried about students attending the game. not the cheerleaders.
     
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    People don't care about the personal, they want restoration of national sovereignty with control of borders. People can't go nowhere but Trump.
     
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    As I stated they are worried about violence on students and last time I looked the cheer leaders are students and would be the obvious focus of attacks by leftist looking to shut down opposing voices
     
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    This was a planned event, not just skipping class. Yes, the school is responsible for the kids, and if they skip class can be disciplined. However, that's because the school is in loco parentis during normal hours unless the parents know and/or notice is given in advance.
     
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    So the school is sponsoring and sanctioning their POLITICAL protest during school hours and under the control of the school..........................that should not be allowed else take them all to a Trump rally or a Tea Party rally or a pro-gun rights rally or a pro-life rally.
     
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    Wow...you really don't understand .it is the same way health issues of all kinds are. Do you think cigarette companies would voluntarily put danger signs on their packages? Do you think chemical companies would volunteer to not pollute the water the way they have for decades ? Laws are passed...and yes..laws are political!i think you’re playing with semantics
    The environment is not a political issue the same way smoking wasn’t. Or the environment is a political issue the same ways smoking was . They are both health issues that rely on politics to make the changes
     
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    It was basically a strike.....and there is power in numbers.
    The school is not responsible for the child if the child never came. The school does follow ups. I was rarely told in advance if a child wouldn’t be there . I am so proud of here young people!
     
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    If there are millions throughout the world staging support for guns, they can do that! You act as though it is a spur of the moment thought.
    Why do you suppose they can’t organize a tea party rally or pro gun rally with young people? Most don’t support those
     
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    What laws changed and to what? Be specific.
     
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    Most intelligent people listen to him....you’re from the school of “everyone says” because they need imaginary support.
     
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    What if they had spoken out against Trump? What if those same Proud Boys attended the game and the cheerleaders whipped out an "Impeach Trump" banner? Do you not know that violence would likely ensue?

    My point is that regardless of the ideology expressed, the sad truth these days is that we have "sides" that preclude the notion that we are all loyal Americans, albeit with differing views, but without violent intent in mind to promote our views, or vilify the views of "the other side.

    Since we can no longer just agree to disagree peacefully, largely due to these groups emboldened to commit violence in the name of one demigogue or another, schools have had to be quite strict in supressing on-campus political rallies of any sort, and rightly so. As I said before, their primary duty is to keep the children safe. Period. They did the right thing under the circumstances, IMO.
     
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    1. Those issues aren't about some demigogue's cult of personality.

    2. The events did not take place on campus.

    3. Those who expressed a desire to use that day to promote the fifth amendment or support science deniers were allowed to do so.
     
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    What does the shear number have to do with anything. The pro-life protest held every year in Washington and around the country attracts millions so you'd be OK with all the schools letting out and the teachers taking all the students to the pro-life rallies and those students who don't want to go effectively being placed in on campus suspension?
     
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    When a Hurricane takes a path that the models did not predict did the Hurricane "Deny science"?
     
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    Nobody ever said vote Democrat because they believe smoking caused cancer and republicans don't. Nobody ever claimed republicans wanted us to keep smoking and keep getting cancer. Nobody claimed democrats could save the world from tobacco. See the difference now?
     
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    That isn't liberal. It's just very American.

    Do you never question those in power? Do you never protest their words or actions? Did you never criticize Obama when he was president? If Hillary had been elected, would you support everything she said or did?

    Be honest.
     
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    No, those walkouts were planned by outside groups. If a group of students wants to attend a Trump or other rally, as long as they let the school know, they can do as they like. The school becomes liable for students when they arrive on campus. If they leave without permission or knowledge of the admin., the admin is responsible for informing the parent and/or disciplining the student. If it is a planned event and the school and parents have knowledge, it's basically none of the school's business.

    This event is being re-framed into a liberal attack on free speech when it's nothing of the sort. The school and the Sheriff reacted to a possible threat on school property during a sanctioned school event. Had something happened, the school would be liable. The girls were disciplined by an organization they belonged to outside of the school for breaking rules.
     
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